Langley HS PTSA Survey Results on VDOT's Proposed I-495 NB Ramp Closure

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DP here. There is absolutely a large townhouse community and also a good number of apartments zoned for Langley. PP is correct. What is that to you, other PP? You are that hung up on what you think other people have?

I have news for you, your troubles won't end at the ramp closure.

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The proposed ramp closure is only the tip of the iceberg for that PP. Her list of perceived grievances is a mile long. I'd hate to live or work with someone like that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Very few townhouses and no apartments are zoned to Langley, and there is nothing modest about trying to offload the traffic in your area onto other neighborhoods. It’s the height of arrogance.

Yes! This! Does the special interest group that is lobbying this asinine cause think that the rest of us in the DMV don’t sit in standstill traffic during the rush hours? Try traversing the Lewinsville/123 intersection or the Kirby/Westmoreland intersection during rush hour and you will see that we face the same issues on the other side of McLean. Langley folks are getting a bad rap on this issue because their attitude is essentially “not in my backayard”.

While those intersections are problematic, they are not on the scale of the 495/Georgetown Pike issue.

[Anonymous]

Where do the parents of students at Langley work? How do they get to work?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where do the parents of students at Langley work? How do they get to work?

Does it matter MD traffic is mostly going in the opposite direction of VA traffic.

[Anonymous]

Langley needs late busses 4 days a week and Forestville needs to move to Herndon. Fairfax isn't going to close Georgetown Pike and put more pressure on development at Tysons.

[Anonymous]

I haven't seen any news coverage of this Langley PTSA "press release." I think DCUM is the only outlet for their frustrations. They don't seem like a nice group of people.

As for their arguments in favor of the ramp closure, most people see through their effort to blame everything on Maryland and Maryland drivers. We know that, if the ramp were closed (unlikely), Virginia drivers would also be inconvenienced and the traffic would just divert to other Beltway entrances near Tysons, not just the Dulles Toll Road.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where do the parents of students at Langley work? How do they get to work?

Does it matter MD traffic is mostly going in the opposite direction of VA traffic.

It matters because Langley parents are likely part of traffic issues somewhere just like the Md drivers are part of the problem in McLean. But the Langley parents don’t seem to acknowledge this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Langley needs late busses 4 days a week and Forestville needs to move to Herndon. Fairfax isn't going to close Georgetown Pike and put more pressure on development at Tysons.

It’s the state’s decision (VDOT), not the county’s, but given all the state taxes paid by Tysons businesses and residents agree 100%.

[Anonymous]

I was at the meeting last week. The VDOT representatives were very clear that no decisions have yet been made and that there would have to be very strong public support for this controversial proposal to move forward. As it stands there is, in fact, the opposite. Even most residents of the affected neighborhoods are against the closure because they themselves utilize the Beltway. It isn’t realistic to assume that they will backtrack to Tysons between 1-7 to get on the Beltway, only to sit in traffic miles south of where they should have started. This proposal is going nowhere. Frankly, I’m surprised it made it this far.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was at the meeting last week. The VDOT representatives were very clear that no decisions have yet been made and that there would have to be very strong public support for this controversial proposal to move forward. As it stands there is, in fact, the opposite. Even most residents of the affected neighborhoods are against the closure because they themselves utilize the Beltway. It isn’t realistic to assume that they will backtrack to Tysons between 1-7 to get on the Beltway, only to sit in traffic miles south of where they should have started. This proposal is going nowhere. Frankly, I’m surprised it made it this far.

Thanks for the update. I could not make the meeting, but your summary is consistent with everything I’ve heard elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Very few townhouses and no apartments are zoned to Langley, and there is nothing modest about trying to offload the traffic in your area onto other neighborhoods. It’s the height of arrogance.

Yes! This! Does the special interest group that is lobbying this asinine cause think that the rest of us in the DMV don’t sit in standstill traffic during the rush hours? Try traversing the Lewinsville/123 intersection or the Kirby/Westmoreland intersection during rush hour and you will see that we face the same issues on the other side of McLean. Langley folks are getting a bad rap on this issue because their attitude is essentially “not in my backayard”.

While those intersections are problematic, they are not on the scale of the 495/Georgetown Pike issue.

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No way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where do the parents of students at Langley work? How do they get to work?

Seriously? We’re supposed to know where all of these parents work?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where do the parents of students at Langley work? How do they get to work?

Does it matter MD traffic is mostly going in the opposite direction of VA traffic.

It matters because Langley parents are likely part of traffic issues somewhere just like the Md drivers are part of the problem in McLean. But the Langley parents don’t seem to acknowledge this.

VA drivers aren’t swarming into MD every day, clogging up their local roads. The amount of MD drivers coming into VA for work is exponentially higher.

[Anonymous]

Do Va drivers, esp McLean drivers, drive to DC or Md for work? Of course they do. Do they cut through DC neighborhoods? Yes, they do. Should they stay in Va, get jobs in Va only? Of course not. But they shouldn’t be surprised when people from DC and Md drive in Va.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do Va drivers, esp McLean drivers, drive to DC or Md for work? Of course they do. Do they cut through DC neighborhoods? Yes, they do. Should they stay in Va, get jobs in Va only? Of course not. But they shouldn’t be surprised when people from DC and Md drive in Va.

True. Sad that the Langley parents don’t get it.