Kavanaugh vote postponed. Judiciary Committee hearing on Sexual Assault complain Monday.

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Anonymous wrote:And here is the other shoe https://theintercept.com/2018/09/17/cyrus-sanai-federal-court-employees-attempted-to-come-forward-to-chuck-grassley-and-dianne-feinstein-neither-responded

Former female federal law clerk here. Color me shocked (not). My Court had a married Judge who was caught having sex with a female law clerk in the locker room of the Courthouse. She left mid-term. Not a da*mn thing happened to him. It’s a lifetime appointment. And there have only been a couple of Judges impeached, ever. Fact is, once confirmed they can do anything and not lose their job. They harass a female law clerk. She complains. She loses her job. He is untouchable.

Was it consensual sex or was he raping her? If the latter, wouldn’t the person who caught them report the incident to the police?

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Anonymous wrote:To think that this is a conspiracy, you'd have to believe that Ford was planting the story by lying to her husband in 2002, lying to her therapist in 2013, lying to a newspaper in late 2017, all with some foresight that Kavanaugh would one day get SCOTUS nomination.

Kavanaugh has been a judge for years. She was looking for her break.

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Anonymous wrote:Kavanaugh was the republican hack for years, now he wants to be a boy scout, playing the "I don't know that woman" game?

Why god is laughing at Brett Kavanaugh

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/09/17/kavanaugh-supreme-court-ford-sexual-assault-219983

Democratic motive on full display in that article.

Craziest line of that piece:

"...Neil Gorsuch—nominated by another president who took office under exotic circumstances after losing the popular vote—is not burdened by the unfairness of it all."

OMG. "Exotic circumstances?" Like winning the electoral college? Just stop.

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The fact of the matter is, we should all lean towards believing victims of sexual assault, when the stakes are so high and the whole country is watching and listening.
Why?
Because no woman in her right mind (or man) would consent to such intrusive dissection and vilification if they had not actually suffered what they say they've suffered.

I don't care who is in power. I will go against my own party to support an alleged victim of sexual assault in such situations, because in the recent past they've all been credible.

If she had come forward years ago, before anyone knew who Kavanaugh was, she would have been able to maintain her anonymity to the wider world. Too bad she didn't think about that sooner.

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Craziest line of that piece:

"...Neil Gorsuch—nominated by another president who took office under exotic circumstances after losing the popular vote—is not burdened by the unfairness of it all."

OMG. "Exotic circumstances?" Like winning the electoral college? Just stop.

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Anonymous wrote:Good for the hearing and airing this matter. I expect the woman thinks she is right but is in fact confused on the details of the incident including the people involved.

The GOP: when you just can’t help but vilify women.

NP. How are these accusations fair to Judge Kavanaugh’s wife and daughters?

What is fair or unfair? He chose to accept a nomination knowing that this allegation was going to surface. Rumors are, there are others. Maybe his wife will be able to teach a lesson to the daughters, whom he used a props at his hearing. THAT was gross at the time and even worse in retrospect.

And his girls basketball team. If that were my daughter, I would be flipping my lid right now.

Clearly the judge is an unfit father and social services needs to step in

+1 the daughters, delivering/serving meals with the the corrupt Catholic church was one big show, especially with the smirk on kavanaugh's face. He screamed, look at me!

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Anonymous wrote:This means the republicans are very confident about Kavanaugh't denial.

They may know the woman is lying.

Or they’re hoping against hope no more victims emerge.

There’s already chatter about additional people.

Links? Sources? Didn't think so.

There certainly have been many rumors today. Wait and see. Quite a few posters here yesterday were insisting Professor Ford would not go public.

To bad she didn't go public years ago, when there could have been a full investigation, either implicating him or clearing his name.

Sorry that the trauma she went through wasn’t on a convenient timeframe for you.

But it sure is convenient for you and other Democrats now, isn't it?

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Anonymous wrote:Reading through some of these posts and reminded that A) misogyny is alive and well in this country and B) victims of sexual assault are incredibly brave to speak out against their attackers. The way some of the PPs have attacked this woman and attempted to discredit her is really gross.

I could say exactly the same thing about those of you jumping on the bandwagon to condemn a man who has not been charged with any crime, nor found guilty of any assault. In your eyes, he was guilty the minute you read Ford's allegation. If I were ever accused of a crime, I'd be scared to death to have you liberals on my jury. Guilty until proven innocent, especially if one is a conservative male. That's the liberal way!

I am not assuming he is guilty - let Ford testify and the facts shake out. But she is a credible person and her allegations deserve to be examined. Also, I’m not politically a liberal, but even if I was, it’s sad that is where your mind goes.

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Anonymous wrote:This means the republicans are very confident about Kavanaugh't denial.

They may know the woman is lying.

Or they’re hoping against hope no more victims emerge.

There’s already chatter about additional people.

Links? Sources? Didn't think so.

There certainly have been many rumors today. Wait and see. Quite a few posters here yesterday were insisting Professor Ford would not go public.

To bad she didn't go public years ago, when there could have been a full investigation, either implicating him or clearing his name.

Indeed, well too bad people slander and drag accusers through the mud, slut shame them, ask about what they were wearing and whether they were drinking, suggest they had it coming or deserved it, suggest they encouraged it, suggest they just wanted sex and then changed their minds afterward, to name a few. Once that changes maybe more will come forward at the time of their attacks.

Well, certainly, victims - or alleged victims - would be more believable if they would report assault immediately rather than waiting decades and expecting to be believed without any corroborating evidence. I've been teaching my daughter that if she is ever assaulted, she *must* report it immediately if we hope to get justice. Waiting only makes it that much less credible within the justice system. Sorry you don't like hearing the truth.

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Anonymous wrote:She didn't even tell his name to the therapist.

This story just does not ring true.

Would you believe it if there were pics? No, I didn't think so. Because you think women are dirt.

Also why you're so eager to confirm a man hell-bent on repealing women's reproductive rights.

DP. You sound truly unhinged. If I told you your husband did something similar to me when I was 15 and he was 17, would you believe me? Without any evidence at all, just my word against his? Didn't think so.

Here's the thing. You assume that others are just as blindly partisan as you, and act accordingly. Well, some of us are not.

Here's the thing. I'm a moderate - or an independent, take your pick. I actually don't care if Kavanaugh is confirmed or not. What I *do* care about are people being accused of something without any evidence to back up the accusation. I do care about innocent men being accused of assault without any proof - just one person's accusation. I have no idea if Kavanaugh is innocent or guilty - and neither do you. I just want to make sure that people can't be indicted based on one person's word, and nothing else. Otherwise, be prepared to one day be accused of something and have absolutely no recourse, even if the accusation is false.

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Here is part of the problem. If it did occur, and I suspect it did, there is a good chance he was so drunk he didn't actually remember. I assume if he had to take a lie detector test he could pass since he probably blacked out that day/night.

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No it’s not. Sorry.

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Nope.

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Craziest line of that piece:

"...Neil Gorsuch—nominated by another president who took office under exotic circumstances after losing the popular vote—is not burdened by the unfairness of it all."

OMG. "Exotic circumstances?" Like winning the electoral college? Just stop.

Who cares what anyone's opinion of it is? Is it not the way we determine elections? So, how in God's name did Trump take officer under "exotic circumstances?"

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Anonymous wrote:Good for the hearing and airing this matter. I expect the woman thinks she is right but is in fact confused on the details of the incident including the people involved.

What is your basis for believing this?

One might ask what is your basis for believing her accusation?
-DP

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Reading through some of these posts and reminded that A) feelings of jealousy and hatred of men are alive and well by many on this thread and B) victims of sexual assault accusations (not convictions) are incredibly brave to try to defend themselves against their attackers. The way some of the PPs have attacked this man (Kavanaugh) and attempted to discredit and convict him via one woman's accusations of attempted rape and suffocation after 30+ years is really gross.