Schools splitting from large ineffective school systems - could the 4 Ws split from MCPS?

[Anonymous]

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That's exactly the problem. MCPS has already made the fast boat sailing very slow now. Parents can no longer tolerate it and now want to separate them, which will do both good.

Children are not boats, and boats do not have parents.

Parents are the captains of the boats. Special policies need to wake up these drunk captains just like the police catch the drunk drivers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

That's exactly the problem. MCPS has already made the fast boat sailing very slow now. Parents can no longer tolerate it and now want to separate them, which will do both good.

Children are not boats, and boats do not have parents.

Parents are the captains of the boats. Special policies need to wake up these drunk captains just like the police catch the drunk drivers

what in the hell are you people even talking about???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

That's exactly the problem. MCPS has already made the fast boat sailing very slow now. Parents can no longer tolerate it and now want to separate them, which will do both good.

Children are not boats, and boats do not have parents.

Parents are the captains of the boats. Special policies need to wake up these drunk captains just like the police catch the drunk drivers

what in the hell are you people even talking about???

PP is comparing non-affluent parents to drunk boat captains.

[Anonymous]

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Do you live in a W district? People are pissed off. School PTAs are sending around the email from the GT group and MCPS. A much broader group of people now know that W schools are no longer eligible for magnets yet our tax dollars go toward them just like the other 100+ school.

I think things like not having to accept things like 2.0, allowing an area to decide if it wants to raise taxes that go directly toward smaller class sizes rather than just having their taxes raised and getting fewer teachers, allowing PTA to fund raise for meaningful things in the school not just the social stuff are pretty compelling.

The W schools aren't getting much from MCPS.

Really? And yet I'm always reading on DCUM about how the Western/Wealthy/White schools in the school district (i.e., MCPS) are so much better than the pitiful schools in Ganglandia and Hinterlandia, to which no caring parent would send their child. Are you saying that's not so?

It's because the parents in those schools do a lot of supplementing (tutors, SAT/ACT prep etc.) It has nothing to do with better teachers. It's all about the peer group and parents pushing their kids to do really well and then supplementing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

That's exactly the problem. MCPS has already made the fast boat sailing very slow now. Parents can no longer tolerate it and now want to separate them, which will do both good.

Children are not boats, and boats do not have parents.

Parents are the captains of the boats. Special policies need to wake up these drunk captains just like the police catch the drunk drivers

what in the hell are you people even talking about???

PP is comparing non-affluent parents to drunk boat captains.

wow. dcum. never fails to amaze.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m trying to wrap my mind around being this self-centered and entitled but it’s hard to grapple with

+1000

They'll try to justify it til the cows come home, but these people are just pure entitled a$$holes.

You want to take moral high ground, why you go and ensure parents of each student will spend 30 min with their kids, and talk to their kids what they do at school. Once again, this is not about SES, not about race. It is about the responsibility of parents.

If this isn't about race and isn't about class, then what is it about the western part of the county that makes the parents there so much better?

Oh, and by the way, given the suicide rates and self-harm rates over there, I'd be a little less smug if I were you about how much attention the parents are paying to their kids.

I did not say the west part of the count does not have problems. They have some serious problems too, but these are completely different ones. Just like you mentioned too much pressure. That's why to separate them and let them deal with their own issues.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m trying to wrap my mind around being this self-centered and entitled but it’s hard to grapple with

+1000

They'll try to justify it til the cows come home, but these people are just pure entitled a$$holes.

You want to take moral high ground, why you go and ensure parents of each student will spend 30 min with their kids, and talk to their kids what they do at school. Once again, this is not about SES, not about race. It is about the responsibility of parents.

If this isn't about race and isn't about class, then what is it about the western part of the county that makes the parents there so much better?

Oh, and by the way, given the suicide rates and self-harm rates over there, I'd be a little less smug if I were you about how much attention the parents are paying to their kids.

I did not say the west part of the count does not have problems. They have some serious problems too, but these are completely different ones. Just like you mentioned too much pressure. That's why to separate them and let them deal with their own issues.

I mean, you DID say that "those people" just need to spend 30 minutes a day with their kids, which is advice you might want to apply closer to home. If all the W parents got home from the firm before 11 pm, they might notice that little Bentley is a cutter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

That's exactly the problem. MCPS has already made the fast boat sailing very slow now. Parents can no longer tolerate it and now want to separate them, which will do both good.

Children are not boats, and boats do not have parents.

Parents are the captains of the boats. Special policies need to wake up these drunk captains just like the police catch the drunk drivers

what in the hell are you people even talking about???

PP is comparing non-affluent parents to drunk boat captains.

You think irresponsible parents are better than drunk drivers? We just had the school shooting, and 11 students were killed. Don't you think these irresponsible parents are not worse than drunk drivers?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

That's exactly the problem. MCPS has already made the fast boat sailing very slow now. Parents can no longer tolerate it and now want to separate them, which will do both good.

Children are not boats, and boats do not have parents.

Parents are the captains of the boats. Special policies need to wake up these drunk captains just like the police catch the drunk drivers

what in the hell are you people even talking about???

PP is comparing non-affluent parents to drunk boat captains.

You think irresponsible parents are better than drunk drivers? We just had the school shooting, and 11 students were killed. Don't you think these irresponsible parents are not worse than drunk drivers?

Now you're comparing non-affluent parents to the parents of people who take guns to school and murder 17 people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

That's exactly the problem. MCPS has already made the fast boat sailing very slow now. Parents can no longer tolerate it and now want to separate them, which will do both good.

Children are not boats, and boats do not have parents.

Parents are the captains of the boats. Special policies need to wake up these drunk captains just like the police catch the drunk drivers

what in the hell are you people even talking about???

PP is comparing non-affluent parents to drunk boat captains.

Pp said irresponsible parents?not matter whether they are affluent or non-affluent. Do you make living via taking moral high ground?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
That's exactly the problem. MCPS has already made the fast boat sailing very slow now. Parents can no longer tolerate it and now want to separate them, which will do both good.

Children are not boats, and boats do not have parents.

Parents are the captains of the boats. Special policies need to wake up these drunk captains just like the police catch the drunk drivers

what in the hell are you people even talking about???

PP is comparing non-affluent parents to drunk boat captains.

Pp said irresponsible parents?not matter whether they are affluent or non-affluent. Do you make living via taking moral high ground?

The irresponsible parents are the ones who live in the non-"W" school zones, from which the OP wants to split. Though it's true that there are plenty of affluent parents who live elsewhere in the county. So ok, PP is comparing parents who don't live in Bethesda and Potomac to drunk boat captains.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

That's exactly the problem. MCPS has already made the fast boat sailing very slow now. Parents can no longer tolerate it and now want to separate them, which will do both good.

Children are not boats, and boats do not have parents.

Parents are the captains of the boats. Special policies need to wake up these drunk captains just like the police catch the drunk drivers

what in the hell are you people even talking about???

PP is comparing non-affluent parents to drunk boat captains.

You think irresponsible parents are better than drunk drivers? We just had the school shooting, and 11 students were killed. Don't you think these irresponsible parents are not worse than drunk drivers?

Now you're comparing non-affluent parents to the parents of people who take guns to school and murder 17 people.

Ha ha. You should move to a communist country like previously soviet Union or China, and will thrive there. Communists think it is the most important thing is to take the Moral high ground. You appRently have that talent.

[Anonymous]

You think irresponsible parents are better than drunk drivers? We just had the school shooting, and 11 students were killed. Don't you think these irresponsible parents are not worse than drunk drivers?

Perhaps the takeaway here is that affluent white folks raise mass murderers? Parkland is a pretty nice neighborhood.

Or maybe the takeaway is that world is terrible and random, and throwing stones at other peoples' parenting is just bad karma.

[Anonymous]

Interesting study from the Center for American Progress that suggests the ideal school district size--from the standpoint of efficient spending--is 2,000-4,000 students. I've only read the summary findings, so far, but some of the arguments are that small school districts (defined in the paper as fewer than 1,000 students) do have higher costs, but large school districts suffer from bureaucratic issues and a one size fits all administrative mentality.

Like a lot of things, the solution seems to be to find a happy medium.

https://www.americanprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/SchoolDistrictSize.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interesting study from the Center for American Progress that suggests the ideal school district size--from the standpoint of efficient spending--is 2,000-4,000 students. I've only read the summary findings, so far, but some of the arguments are that small school districts (defined in the paper as fewer than 1,000 students) do have higher costs, but large school districts suffer from bureaucratic issues and a one size fits all administrative mentality.

Like a lot of things, the solution seems to be to find a happy medium.

https://www.americanprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/SchoolDistrictSize.pdf

But efficient spending is not the purpose of a public school district. Education is. Which is why, for example, school districts can't save lots of money by kicking out all of the kids who have expensive special needs.