Do you think Mr. Big is a catch?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:baryshnikov's character also hit carrie

yeah, no - over

Ehhhh she pulled his arm, and when he flung around he ended up hitting her in what was clearly an accident. I wouldn't say he hit her on purpose.

+1 Aleksandr was my favorite: he was sensitive and artistic, and had a successful career in his art (unicorn! chupacabra!). Carrie wrecked their relationship in her inability to adjust to expat life; I see people like her every year who leave the US and then walk around viewing everything through a lens of comparison with home in a way that indicates her internal monologue is insisting that home is better. Those people never last and always return home. Carrie is too unsophisticated and insensitive for Aleksandr, plus she sounds like a yokel clod in her responses to his attempts to discuss his art. In addition, she handled the book signing debacle in Paris completely wrong, and she really screwed up (and showed her selfish true colors) when she skipped out on it. She should have gone to her book signing (which she had committed to do, and which people were setting up just for her) and then MAYBE left early for Aleksandr's exhibition (could have invited the people at the signing to go with her; a book signing in Paris for a book of her caliber would have been tiny anyway). By skipping out on her book signing, she destroyed her chance at a life/involvement in the literary scene in Paris that would have saved Carrie by giving her her own interests and life in the new country, and allowed her to live with Aleksandr as an expat but equal.

Carrie is an idiot. She messed up a good relationship with her immaturity, and she messed up a chance to continue her place in the literary scene in another country.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Skippy doesn't make anyone's list?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Skipper!!!!

Steve seem to be Skipper version 2.0 at times.

At the beginning sex and the city was realistic when it comes to Miranda's dating prospects, which would, of course, be dismal. By the end she seemed to live in a fantasy world where a gorgeous sexy doctor was obsessed with her. And meanwhile Charlotte had shifted from pulling all the hot wasp dudes at the yacht club to being stuck with HARRY.

I felt like some of the writers' wishful thinking was coming through by the last season

Charlotte wasn't stuck with Harry. If you remember she was even repulsed by him and then got to know and love him for who he was and not how he looked. What a novel concept. Don't be so shallow.

That's exactly the point and why the whole thing was so dreadful.

The character realized there was more to life than looks. I loved this storyline and loved when he dumped her ass for being awful to him, she deserved it. And because he was a good person he forgave her when she realized she lost the best man she ever dated amongst a ton of chumps.

Ah Harry. What a big hearted honey. You could really have a great life with a guy like him. That's why I am the original 'Harry is the catch' poster on this topic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Skippy doesn't make anyone's list?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Skipper!!!!

Steve seem to be Skipper version 2.0 at times.

At the beginning sex and the city was realistic when it comes to Miranda's dating prospects, which would, of course, be dismal. By the end she seemed to live in a fantasy world where a gorgeous sexy doctor was obsessed with her. And meanwhile Charlotte had shifted from pulling all the hot wasp dudes at the yacht club to being stuck with HARRY.

I felt like some of the writers' wishful thinking was coming through by the last season

It is entirely plausible that the doctor would have been "obsessed" with her for a short-term, fast-burn fling, especially if they lived in the same building. The doctor struck me as a player anyway: very insincere and too practiced with the romantic gestures and rhetoric. That would never have been long-term, and the doctor (in his head) never expected more than a fling.

And the man who Miranda ends up with is exactly the type of man someone like her would realistically attract. There was nothing unrealistic about Miranda's dating prospects (except that there were too many: no way she would have had time to date so much as a single while building her career).

Volume aside, I think all the women attracted reasonable prospects for them EXCEPT Carrie: there is no way guys like Big, Aleksandr, and a few others would be interested in a low quality prospect like homely, childish, spendthrift, neurotic, clownishly dressed Carrie.

Agree completely. Carrie was okay in the beginning but became more and more annoying and insufferable. No way a person like Big would end up with a Carrie; he would end up with a Natasha. Carrie was ugly, needy, and immature.

I could see someone like Carrie ending up with the Russian. He was old and crusty and not shallow enough to go after someone who jwas just a pretty young thing; he and Carrie were both creative types and moody. Carrie f** up that relationship.

Old and crusty? That sounds like the perfect way to describe Big.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:great topic!

yes, big was totally a catch. i liked him. i also liked berger, harvey, smith and tray. aidan less so but i guess it could work. why is nobody talking about jon bon jovi character? it was short but he was HOT

What made Big a Catch?

he was wealthy, attractive (played but at least an average looking actor) and, we were led to believe, intelligent and funny.

i mean, what more would he need to be to be considered a catch by you? sure, he was ambivalent about committing to carrie but that's because he was out of her league, like he wasn't sure if she was the one the way she was sure about him. which merely reinforces the fact that he was, in fact, a catch.

Diff poster here, but interesting that "wealthy" is always the first thing listed about him being a catch. The list above covered quite a few reasons why I never considered him a catch.

Inability to commit, went right from Carrie to a younger girl he magically could commit to. Jerked Carrie around every time she was seeing another man. Cheated on Natasha. Left Carrie at the altar and humiliated her. If a guy did all of this to your best friend (or you) would he still be considered a catch?

[Anonymous]

I loved SATC but I find all these threads odd... why are we still talking about this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I loved SATC but I find all these threads odd... why are we still talking about this?

You could always not click on them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I loved SATC but I find all these threads odd... why are we still talking about this?

There's a thread for that! http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/666791.page

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:great topic!

yes, big was totally a catch. i liked him. i also liked berger, harvey, smith and tray. aidan less so but i guess it could work. why is nobody talking about jon bon jovi character? it was short but he was HOT

What made Big a Catch?

he was wealthy, attractive (played but at least an average looking actor) and, we were led to believe, intelligent and funny.

i mean, what more would he need to be to be considered a catch by you? sure, he was ambivalent about committing to carrie but that's because he was out of her league, like he wasn't sure if she was the one the way she was sure about him. which merely reinforces the fact that he was, in fact, a catch.

There are many rich men out there who have millions but would make terrible partners. Big was one of them. To be a catch a man has to be rich AND be a good husband such as Harry and Trey.

If Big was an upstanding man he would a. Never have strung along Carrie knowing full well how in love with him she was, b. He would never have married Natasha only to cheat on her c. Never stood up Carrie or pulled all the other crap he did over the years. Mr Big is toxic and dangerous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Skippy doesn't make anyone's list?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Skipper!!!!

Steve seem to be Skipper version 2.0 at times.

At the beginning sex and the city was realistic when it comes to Miranda's dating prospects, which would, of course, be dismal. By the end she seemed to live in a fantasy world where a gorgeous sexy doctor was obsessed with her. And meanwhile Charlotte had shifted from pulling all the hot wasp dudes at the yacht club to being stuck with HARRY.

I felt like some of the writers' wishful thinking was coming through by the last season

It is entirely plausible that the doctor would have been "obsessed" with her for a short-term, fast-burn fling, especially if they lived in the same building. The doctor struck me as a player anyway: very insincere and too practiced with the romantic gestures and rhetoric. That would never have been long-term, and the doctor (in his head) never expected more than a fling.

And the man who Miranda ends up with is exactly the type of man someone like her would realistically attract. There was nothing unrealistic about Miranda's dating prospects (except that there were too many: no way she would have had time to date so much as a single while building her career).

Volume aside, I think all the women attracted reasonable prospects for them EXCEPT Carrie: there is no way guys like Big, Aleksandr, and a few others would be interested in a low quality prospect like homely, childish, spendthrift, neurotic, clownishly dressed Carrie.

Agree completely. Carrie was okay in the beginning but became more and more annoying and insufferable. No way a person like Big would end up with a Carrie; he would end up with a Natasha. Carrie was ugly, needy, and immature.

I could see someone like Carrie ending up with the Russian. He was old and crusty and not shallow enough to go after someone who jwas just a pretty young thing; he and Carrie were both creative types and moody. Carrie f** up that relationship.

+1.

Looking back many years later, Carrie has no redeeming qualities. I understand that it is important to have female anti heroes but even Don Draper with his messy personal life and questionable morals was a fantastic adman. He had something going for him. Carrie is literally a loser. She is a trashy girl who writes about her sex life for a shitty newspaper.

It's not like she was a giant in the New York literary society and published insightful thoughtful pieces about sex in the New Yorker.
There's no way these super accomplished men would want her. Sleep with her, sure. But never want her for long term.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I loved SATC but I find all these threads odd... why are we still talking about this?

There's a thread for that! http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/666791.page

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:great topic!

yes, big was totally a catch. i liked him. i also liked berger, harvey, smith and tray. aidan less so but i guess it could work. why is nobody talking about jon bon jovi character? it was short but he was HOT

What made Big a Catch?

he was wealthy, attractive (played but at least an average looking actor) and, we were led to believe, intelligent and funny.

i mean, what more would he need to be to be considered a catch by you? sure, he was ambivalent about committing to carrie but that's because he was out of her league, like he wasn't sure if she was the one the way she was sure about him. which merely reinforces the fact that he was, in fact, a catch.

Diff poster here, but interesting that "wealthy" is always the first thing listed about him being a catch. The list above covered quite a few reasons why I never considered him a catch.

Inability to commit, went right from Carrie to a younger girl he magically could commit to. Jerked Carrie around every time she was seeing another man. Cheated on Natasha. Left Carrie at the altar and humiliated her. If a guy did all of this to your best friend (or you) would he still be considered a catch?

he was perfectly capable to commit. he just wasn't in love with carrie.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:great topic!

yes, big was totally a catch. i liked him. i also liked berger, harvey, smith and tray. aidan less so but i guess it could work. why is nobody talking about jon bon jovi character? it was short but he was HOT

What made Big a Catch?

he was wealthy, attractive (played but at least an average looking actor) and, we were led to believe, intelligent and funny.

i mean, what more would he need to be to be considered a catch by you? sure, he was ambivalent about committing to carrie but that's because he was out of her league, like he wasn't sure if she was the one the way she was sure about him. which merely reinforces the fact that he was, in fact, a catch.

Diff poster here, but interesting that "wealthy" is always the first thing listed about him being a catch. The list above covered quite a few reasons why I never considered him a catch.

Inability to commit, went right from Carrie to a younger girl he magically could commit to. Jerked Carrie around every time she was seeing another man. Cheated on Natasha. Left Carrie at the altar and humiliated her. If a guy did all of this to your best friend (or you) would he still be considered a catch?

he was perfectly capable to commit. he just wasn't in love with carrie.

And apparently not in love with his first wife or Natasha. Just cause he could marry doesn't mean he could be a real man and commit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:great topic!

yes, big was totally a catch. i liked him. i also liked berger, harvey, smith and tray. aidan less so but i guess it could work. why is nobody talking about jon bon jovi character? it was short but he was HOT

What made Big a Catch?

he was wealthy, attractive (played but at least an average looking actor) and, we were led to believe, intelligent and funny.

i mean, what more would he need to be to be considered a catch by you? sure, he was ambivalent about committing to carrie but that's because he was out of her league, like he wasn't sure if she was the one the way she was sure about him. which merely reinforces the fact that he was, in fact, a catch.

There are many rich men out there who have millions but would make terrible partners. Big was one of them. To be a catch a man has to be rich AND be a good husband such as Harry and Trey.

If Big was an upstanding man he would a. Never have strung along Carrie knowing full well how in love with him she was, b. He would never have married Natasha only to cheat on her c. Never stood up Carrie or pulled all the other crap he did over the years. Mr Big is toxic and dangerous.

I agree with you on all of this except Trey being a good husband. He was not only crap in the bedroom, he wouldn't even listen to Charlotte when she tried to discuss it or discuss HER needs. He always represented that blue blood "good on paper" guy who you'd never wanna end up with. Plus he let his Mommy treat him like a child!!! Why does no one remember Bunny? UGH.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Skippy doesn't make anyone's list?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Skipper!!!!

Steve seem to be Skipper version 2.0 at times.

At the beginning sex and the city was realistic when it comes to Miranda's dating prospects, which would, of course, be dismal. By the end she seemed to live in a fantasy world where a gorgeous sexy doctor was obsessed with her. And meanwhile Charlotte had shifted from pulling all the hot wasp dudes at the yacht club to being stuck with HARRY.

I felt like some of the writers' wishful thinking was coming through by the last season

It is entirely plausible that the doctor would have been "obsessed" with her for a short-term, fast-burn fling, especially if they lived in the same building. The doctor struck me as a player anyway: very insincere and too practiced with the romantic gestures and rhetoric. That would never have been long-term, and the doctor (in his head) never expected more than a fling.

And the man who Miranda ends up with is exactly the type of man someone like her would realistically attract. There was nothing unrealistic about Miranda's dating prospects (except that there were too many: no way she would have had time to date so much as a single while building her career).

Volume aside, I think all the women attracted reasonable prospects for them EXCEPT Carrie: there is no way guys like Big, Aleksandr, and a few others would be interested in a low quality prospect like homely, childish, spendthrift, neurotic, clownishly dressed Carrie.

Agree completely. Carrie was okay in the beginning but became more and more annoying and insufferable. No way a person like Big would end up with a Carrie; he would end up with a Natasha. Carrie was ugly, needy, and immature.

I could see someone like Carrie ending up with the Russian. He was old and crusty and not shallow enough to go after someone who jwas just a pretty young thing; he and Carrie were both creative types and moody. Carrie f** up that relationship.

+1.

Looking back many years later, Carrie has no redeeming qualities. I understand that it is important to have female anti heroes but even Don Draper with his messy personal life and questionable morals was a fantastic adman. He had something going for him. Carrie is literally a loser. She is a trashy girl who writes about her sex life for a shitty newspaper.

It's not like she was a giant in the New York literary society and published insightful thoughtful pieces about sex in the New Yorker.
There's no way these super accomplished men would want her. Sleep with her, sure. But never want her for long term.

I look back now too and can't stand Carrie. What a messy mess. We've also all omitted a huge reason these men wouldn't want her: she was quite a tramp. Did anyone ever tally up her list of lovers?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Skippy doesn't make anyone's list?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Skipper!!!!

Steve seem to be Skipper version 2.0 at times.

At the beginning sex and the city was realistic when it comes to Miranda's dating prospects, which would, of course, be dismal. By the end she seemed to live in a fantasy world where a gorgeous sexy doctor was obsessed with her. And meanwhile Charlotte had shifted from pulling all the hot wasp dudes at the yacht club to being stuck with HARRY.

I felt like some of the writers' wishful thinking was coming through by the last season

It is entirely plausible that the doctor would have been "obsessed" with her for a short-term, fast-burn fling, especially if they lived in the same building. The doctor struck me as a player anyway: very insincere and too practiced with the romantic gestures and rhetoric. That would never have been long-term, and the doctor (in his head) never expected more than a fling.

And the man who Miranda ends up with is exactly the type of man someone like her would realistically attract. There was nothing unrealistic about Miranda's dating prospects (except that there were too many: no way she would have had time to date so much as a single while building her career).

Volume aside, I think all the women attracted reasonable prospects for them EXCEPT Carrie: there is no way guys like Big, Aleksandr, and a few others would be interested in a low quality prospect like homely, childish, spendthrift, neurotic, clownishly dressed Carrie.

Agree completely. Carrie was okay in the beginning but became more and more annoying and insufferable. No way a person like Big would end up with a Carrie; he would end up with a Natasha. Carrie was ugly, needy, and immature.

I could see someone like Carrie ending up with the Russian. He was old and crusty and not shallow enough to go after someone who jwas just a pretty young thing; he and Carrie were both creative types and moody. Carrie f** up that relationship.

+1.

Looking back many years later, Carrie has no redeeming qualities. I understand that it is important to have female anti heroes but even Don Draper with his messy personal life and questionable morals was a fantastic adman. He had something going for him. Carrie is literally a loser. She is a trashy girl who writes about her sex life for a shitty newspaper.

It's not like she was a giant in the New York literary society and published insightful thoughtful pieces about sex in the New Yorker.
There's no way these super accomplished men would want her. Sleep with her, sure. But never want her for long term.

I look back now too and can't stand Carrie. What a messy mess. We've also all omitted a huge reason these men wouldn't want her: she was quite a tramp. Did anyone ever tally up her list of lovers?

Yes. She is a major slut. She wasn't even discriminatory with the men she slept with.

The thing about Carrie is that there are no redeeming qualities there. Like I said, if she was a complex portrait of the modern liberated woman who was flawed and interesting, I'd get it. She wasn't a good friend, she was a terrible girlfriend, she was a terrible writer, she was immature, childish, petty and materialistic. Just...yuck!