Physically heterosexual but male entitlement has ruined it for me

[Anonymous]

I can't tell when OP is posting but the early posts did not assume malevolence or offer cartoon character portraits or stereotypes. Not even bitter. Maybe rueful and exasperated.

[Anonymous]

The OP phrased it oddly, but I can sort of see her point.

I'm a straight white female and this whole last year or two has made me sort of low-level pissed off at straight white dudes who act in an entitled fashion.

If I ever had time to date (I'm a single mom of a young kid and we are very active), it would probably affect my love life. It probably does affect my love life in that I'm less inclined to make the effort to date because I'm low-level annoyed at straight white guys. (my usual type.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The OP phrased it oddly, but I can sort of see her point.

I'm a straight white female and this whole last year or two has made me sort of low-level pissed off at straight white dudes who act in an entitled fashion.

If I ever had time to date (I'm a single mom of a young kid and we are very active), it would probably affect my love life. It probably does affect my love life in that I'm less inclined to make the effort to date because I'm low-level annoyed at straight white guys. (my usual type.)

If I was on the market, I might be more attracted to men of color myself. It's hard to find a white man who actually understands what it's like to live in this system and not be at the top. I've only met a handful in my life. Good catches, those ones.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The OP phrased it oddly, but I can sort of see her point.

I'm a straight white female and this whole last year or two has made me sort of low-level pissed off at straight white dudes who act in an entitled fashion.

If I ever had time to date (I'm a single mom of a young kid and we are very active), it would probably affect my love life. It probably does affect my love life in that I'm less inclined to make the effort to date because I'm low-level annoyed at straight white guys. (my usual type.)

I bet straight white guys are more annoyed at straight white women. In my group of friend, the sense of entitlement by shown by my single girlfriends is off the hook. They only show interest in the one in a million guy who has the right resumes(right school, family money, right job- doctor, big law partner, hedge fund manager), is over 6'2", under 30, etc etc. The problem is every single(and many who are not single) women are throwing themselves at this guy. He can be a total dick and the women keep coming. At the same time they treat the guys without the resume like shit.

[Anonymous]

That's also a product of this culture. Consciousness raising for all, STAT!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The OP phrased it oddly, but I can sort of see her point.

I'm a straight white female and this whole last year or two has made me sort of low-level pissed off at straight white dudes who act in an entitled fashion.

If I ever had time to date (I'm a single mom of a young kid and we are very active), it would probably affect my love life. It probably does affect my love life in that I'm less inclined to make the effort to date because I'm low-level annoyed at straight white guys. (my usual type.)

I bet straight white guys are more annoyed at straight white women. In my group of friend, the sense of entitlement by shown by my single girlfriends is off the hook. They only show interest in the one in a million guy who has the right resumes(right school, family money, right job- doctor, big law partner, hedge fund manager), is over 6'2", under 30, etc etc. The problem is every single(and many who are not single) women are throwing themselves at this guy. He can be a total dick and the women keep coming. At the same time they treat the guys without the resume like shit.

Naaah. This doesn't ring any bells.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:12:24 - you think patriarchy is disgusting? or you think anyone objecting to it is disgusting? it really wasn't clear.

The posters here who seems so amazed and shocked and think this is an abstract term from a college seminar with no relevance in the real world are quite something. That's why these problems endure. Most don't even question these behaviors or link them together or think they could ever be changed.

The problems are there, but describing them with jargon like "patriarchy" doesn't really help anything. It prompts the choir to say, "amen," but does not bring opponents to your side and tends to alienate those who are merely indifferent. Use every-day words to describe the problems and solutions.

Ah yes, the typical complaint leveled against women -- it's not that I'm opposed to the substance of your complaint, it's just that I don't like the way you talked about your complaint. You didn't ask nicely enough. You didn't offer enough detail or proof. You didn't offer solutions that (I, the male, think) are viable. The way you ask scares people off.

Do you not realize your response is emblematic of exactly the kind of privilege about which OP is complaining?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The OP phrased it oddly, but I can sort of see her point.

I'm a straight white female and this whole last year or two has made me sort of low-level pissed off at straight white dudes who act in an entitled fashion.

If I ever had time to date (I'm a single mom of a young kid and we are very active), it would probably affect my love life. It probably does affect my love life in that I'm less inclined to make the effort to date because I'm low-level annoyed at straight white guys. (my usual type.)

If I was on the market, I might be more attracted to men of color myself. It's hard to find a white man who actually understands what it's like to live in this system and not be at the top. I've only met a handful in my life. Good catches, those ones.

If you really think men of color do not feel entitled to a woman's body and her decisionmaking abilities, I've got a bridge to sell you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:12:24 - you think patriarchy is disgusting? or you think anyone objecting to it is disgusting? it really wasn't clear.

The posters here who seems so amazed and shocked and think this is an abstract term from a college seminar with no relevance in the real world are quite something. That's why these problems endure. Most don't even question these behaviors or link them together or think they could ever be changed.

The problems are there, but describing them with jargon like "patriarchy" doesn't really help anything. It prompts the choir to say, "amen," but does not bring opponents to your side and tends to alienate those who are merely indifferent. Use every-day words to describe the problems and solutions.

Ah yes, the typical complaint leveled against women -- it's not that I'm opposed to the substance of your complaint, it's just that I don't like the way you talked about your complaint. You didn't ask nicely enough. You didn't offer enough detail or proof. You didn't offer solutions that (I, the male, think) are viable. The way you ask scares people off.

Do you not realize your response is emblematic of exactly the kind of privilege about which OP is complaining?

Yeah, I know. Making the sale is hard work. You're not doing it.

Bitching that guys ought to want to help make things right is just as off-putting as guys whining that women ought to want to have sex with them. If what you are doing is getting you what you want, good deal. Keep doing it. If it's not getting you what you want, you need to show some adaptability and change gears.

[Anonymous]

"Bitching"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:12:24 - you think patriarchy is disgusting? or you think anyone objecting to it is disgusting? it really wasn't clear.

The posters here who seems so amazed and shocked and think this is an abstract term from a college seminar with no relevance in the real world are quite something. That's why these problems endure. Most don't even question these behaviors or link them together or think they could ever be changed.

The problems are there, but describing them with jargon like "patriarchy" doesn't really help anything. It prompts the choir to say, "amen," but does not bring opponents to your side and tends to alienate those who are merely indifferent. Use every-day words to describe the problems and solutions.

Ah yes, the typical complaint leveled against women -- it's not that I'm opposed to the substance of your complaint, it's just that I don't like the way you talked about your complaint. You didn't ask nicely enough. You didn't offer enough detail or proof. You didn't offer solutions that (I, the male, think) are viable. The way you ask scares people off.

Do you not realize your response is emblematic of exactly the kind of privilege about which OP is complaining?

Are you referring to "tone policing"?

Why should you be exempt from treating people with the level of respect that you demand from others when expressing a concern? Seems a bit infantile to insist that others just grin and bear it as if their own feelings are irrelevant.

[Anonymous]

Do is guys a favor and go full lesbian. The only men who are going to out up with your insufferable rants are the beta cucks with no self esteem. Then you can your girlfriend can go on and on and on about this patriarchy boogeyman that's doesn't exist

[Anonymous]

?

[Anonymous]

Oof 17:10 it reads like a parody but I think you are being serious.

[Anonymous]

Entitlement, arrogance, selfishness...are not limited by race, gender or even economic levels. If you are only, or mostly, running into people like that you might want to revisit where you are and who you are associating with.