Liberal Arts Schools in Ohio

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Anonymous wrote:Many people don't know that Miami of Ohio is actually public because it is so beautiful that it looks private. I know kids who have done very well there. Strong alumni network. Lots of east coast kids go there. Hidden gem. Fairly easy to get into.

Thanks for input! What about Miami in Oxford? Where does that fit in. In terms of vibe, heard its very preppy?

Miami is preppy, VERY CONSERVATIVE for a large public state university, students tend to be wealthy, big Greek life. The campus is very nice. It's fairly near Cincinnati which is also conservative for a mid-size city. One strange thing about it if you have a daughter is that none of the sororities have houses - all sorority women live in dorms (or off campus like other students, if juniors/seniors). They have a good business school and a strong reputation for liberal arts as well.

If your kid isn't super interested in Greek life or is artsy, hippie, etc. - not that there isn't that population at Miami because it's a large school with literally every type of student there - they might fit in better at Ohio University on the other side of the state. OU's campus is more isolated in a small town in Appalachia, and the nearest big city is Columbus and that's about 2 hours away. Campus is very nice, size is similar to Miami, less focus on social fraternities/sororities, overall very liberal reputation. They have strong programs for communications, journalism, media, and computer science.

I'm a late '80s Miami grad and PP is correct. At the same time, I wasn't preppy or into Greek life and still enjoyed my time there. For the slightly crunchier side of Miami, look into the Individualized Studies program, AKA Western College program, which is what I did. http://miamioh.edu/cas/academics/programs/western/. It used to be a separate school of Miami (and before that a progressive private separate women's college) but shrunk to just a department about a decade a ago.

Ohio University is also as PP describes it, but OU is less selective and well-known by those outside Ohio...if that matters.

It's not like Miami in OH is well-known. Most people will automatically think "Florida" not "Ohio"

Only people who are ignorant of higher education think that.

I didn't know miami of oh was a school until paul ryan became a national figure. In my circles schools like carleton and oberlin have way bigger name recognition.

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Anonymous wrote:Many people don't know that Miami of Ohio is actually public because it is so beautiful that it looks private. I know kids who have done very well there. Strong alumni network. Lots of east coast kids go there. Hidden gem. Fairly easy to get into.

Thanks for input! What about Miami in Oxford? Where does that fit in. In terms of vibe, heard its very preppy?

Miami is preppy, VERY CONSERVATIVE for a large public state university, students tend to be wealthy, big Greek life. The campus is very nice. It's fairly near Cincinnati which is also conservative for a mid-size city. One strange thing about it if you have a daughter is that none of the sororities have houses - all sorority women live in dorms (or off campus like other students, if juniors/seniors). They have a good business school and a strong reputation for liberal arts as well.

If your kid isn't super interested in Greek life or is artsy, hippie, etc. - not that there isn't that population at Miami because it's a large school with literally every type of student there - they might fit in better at Ohio University on the other side of the state. OU's campus is more isolated in a small town in Appalachia, and the nearest big city is Columbus and that's about 2 hours away. Campus is very nice, size is similar to Miami, less focus on social fraternities/sororities, overall very liberal reputation. They have strong programs for communications, journalism, media, and computer science.

I'm a late '80s Miami grad and PP is correct. At the same time, I wasn't preppy or into Greek life and still enjoyed my time there. For the slightly crunchier side of Miami, look into the Individualized Studies program, AKA Western College program, which is what I did. http://miamioh.edu/cas/academics/programs/western/. It used to be a separate school of Miami (and before that a progressive private separate women's college) but shrunk to just a department about a decade a ago.

Ohio University is also as PP describes it, but OU is less selective and well-known by those outside Ohio...if that matters.

It's not like Miami in OH is well-known. Most people will automatically think "Florida" not "Ohio"

Only people who are ignorant of higher education think that.

I didn't know miami of oh was a school until paul ryan became a national figure. In my circles schools like carleton and oberlin have way bigger name recognition.


Same, never heard of it till recently. It seems to have more of a regional recognition.
Last year, my cousin's daughter started there. She's typical UMC kid from DC private with meh grades looking for a fun sorority and eventually her MRS degree.

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Anonymous wrote:Many people don't know that Miami of Ohio is actually public because it is so beautiful that it looks private. I know kids who have done very well there. Strong alumni network. Lots of east coast kids go there. Hidden gem. Fairly easy to get into.

Thanks for input! What about Miami in Oxford? Where does that fit in. In terms of vibe, heard its very preppy?

Miami is preppy, VERY CONSERVATIVE for a large public state university, students tend to be wealthy, big Greek life. The campus is very nice. It's fairly near Cincinnati which is also conservative for a mid-size city. One strange thing about it if you have a daughter is that none of the sororities have houses - all sorority women live in dorms (or off campus like other students, if juniors/seniors). They have a good business school and a strong reputation for liberal arts as well.

If your kid isn't super interested in Greek life or is artsy, hippie, etc. - not that there isn't that population at Miami because it's a large school with literally every type of student there - they might fit in better at Ohio University on the other side of the state. OU's campus is more isolated in a small town in Appalachia, and the nearest big city is Columbus and that's about 2 hours away. Campus is very nice, size is similar to Miami, less focus on social fraternities/sororities, overall very liberal reputation. They have strong programs for communications, journalism, media, and computer science.

I'm a late '80s Miami grad and PP is correct. At the same time, I wasn't preppy or into Greek life and still enjoyed my time there. For the slightly crunchier side of Miami, look into the Individualized Studies program, AKA Western College program, which is what I did. http://miamioh.edu/cas/academics/programs/western/. It used to be a separate school of Miami (and before that a progressive private separate women's college) but shrunk to just a department about a decade a ago.

Ohio University is also as PP describes it, but OU is less selective and well-known by those outside Ohio...if that matters.

It's not like Miami in OH is well-known. Most people will automatically think "Florida" not "Ohio"

Only people who are ignorant of higher education think that.

I didn't know miami of oh was a school until paul ryan became a national figure. In my circles schools like carleton and oberlin have way bigger name recognition.

Same, never heard of it till recently. It seems to have more of a regional recognition.
Last year, my cousin's daughter started there. She's typical UMC kid from DC private with meh grades looking for a fun sorority and eventually her MRS degree.

The fact that Paul Ryan graduated from Miami should give you a clue as to the general student body, haha.

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I've noticed this since I've started paying attention to college admissions the last 5-6 years...lots of kids from our area heading to the many excellent liberal arts schools in OH. Oberlin, Kenyon, Miami and Denison. Wooster and Ohio Wesleyan also seem to be more popular. Are we considered "geographically diverse" for these schools?

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Anonymous wrote:I've noticed this since I've started paying attention to college admissions the last 5-6 years...lots of kids from our area heading to the many excellent liberal arts schools in OH. Oberlin, Kenyon, Miami and Denison. Wooster and Ohio Wesleyan also seem to be more popular. Are we considered "geographically diverse" for these schools?

I believe so.

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Anonymous wrote:I've noticed this since I've started paying attention to college admissions the last 5-6 years...lots of kids from our area heading to the many excellent liberal arts schools in OH. Oberlin, Kenyon, Miami and Denison. Wooster and Ohio Wesleyan also seem to be more popular. Are we considered "geographically diverse" for these schools?

I believe so.

It also has a decent admit rate (admitted 20K out of 30K applications) and is do-able for kids with stats that knock them out of contention for top tier schools. About 40% are from Ohio, its a nice campus in a safe location and has a preppy, fun vibe. While its not high on the 'brand name' scale, its a decent option for a lot of kids.

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Anonymous wrote:I've noticed this since I've started paying attention to college admissions the last 5-6 years...lots of kids from our area heading to the many excellent liberal arts schools in OH. Oberlin, Kenyon, Miami and Denison. Wooster and Ohio Wesleyan also seem to be more popular. Are we considered "geographically diverse" for these schools?

I believe so.

It also has a decent admit rate (admitted 20K out of 30K applications) and is do-able for kids with stats that knock them out of contention for top tier schools. About 40% are from Ohio, its a nice campus in a safe location and has a preppy, fun vibe. While its not high on the 'brand name' scale, its a decent option for a lot of kids.

Which school are you talking about? Miami?

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Anonymous wrote:I've noticed this since I've started paying attention to college admissions the last 5-6 years...lots of kids from our area heading to the many excellent liberal arts schools in OH. Oberlin, Kenyon, Miami and Denison. Wooster and Ohio Wesleyan also seem to be more popular. Are we considered "geographically diverse" for these schools?

I believe so.

It also has a decent admit rate (admitted 20K out of 30K applications) and is do-able for kids with stats that knock them out of contention for top tier schools. About 40% are from Ohio, its a nice campus in a safe location and has a preppy, fun vibe. While its not high on the 'brand name' scale, its a decent option for a lot of kids.

Which school are you talking about? Miami?

Not Oberlin or Kenyon, which both have admit rates under 30% or lower for girls.

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Anonymous wrote:I've noticed this since I've started paying attention to college admissions the last 5-6 years...lots of kids from our area heading to the many excellent liberal arts schools in OH. Oberlin, Kenyon, Miami and Denison. Wooster and Ohio Wesleyan also seem to be more popular. Are we considered "geographically diverse" for these schools?

I believe so.

It also has a decent admit rate (admitted 20K out of 30K applications) and is do-able for kids with stats that knock them out of contention for top tier schools. About 40% are from Ohio, its a nice campus in a safe location and has a preppy, fun vibe. While its not high on the 'brand name' scale, its a decent option for a lot of kids.

Which school are you talking about? Miami?

Yes, Miami... the one in Ohio.

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If a kid from Virginia and a kid from Ohio both applied to Miami, and both had equal (ok-ish but certainly not stellar) test scores and GPA, the kid from Virginia would have a higher chance of getting in. Miami is getting more selective for in state students, judging from all my friends and family in Ohio who have kids going to college and the sort of "average to slightly above average" students who are largely getting wait listed at Miami unless they applied for early decision. As for the other privates mentioned in this thread, Oberlin and Kenyon are for sure more selective than Miami, as is Case Western (although that's not a liberal arts college.) Denison, Wooster, and OWU are not as selective, maybe on par with Miami for the most part.

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My kid graduated from the conservatory at Oberlin. I loved the campus and town! Kid had a fantastic 4 years there. It's actually at most 30 minutes from Cleveland and there is a campus shuttle to the airport.

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Anonymous wrote:I've noticed this since I've started paying attention to college admissions the last 5-6 years...lots of kids from our area heading to the many excellent liberal arts schools in OH. Oberlin, Kenyon, Miami and Denison. Wooster and Ohio Wesleyan also seem to be more popular. Are we considered "geographically diverse" for these schools?

I believe so.

It also has a decent admit rate (admitted 20K out of 30K applications) and is do-able for kids with stats that knock them out of contention for top tier schools. About 40% are from Ohio, its a nice campus in a safe location and has a preppy, fun vibe. While its not high on the 'brand name' scale, its a decent option for a lot of kids.

Which school are you talking about? They are not all the same.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid graduated from the conservatory at Oberlin. I loved the campus and town! Kid had a fantastic 4 years there. It's actually at most 30 minutes from Cleveland and there is a campus shuttle to the airport.

My DC is interested in the Conservatory. What is your DC doing now?

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Anonymous wrote:If a kid from Virginia and a kid from Ohio both applied to Miami, and both had equal (ok-ish but certainly not stellar) test scores and GPA, the kid from Virginia would have a higher chance of getting in. Miami is getting more selective for in state students, judging from all my friends and family in Ohio who have kids going to college and the sort of "average to slightly above average" students who are largely getting wait listed at Miami unless they applied for early decision. As for the other privates mentioned in this thread, Oberlin and Kenyon are for sure more selective than Miami, as is Case Western (although that's not a liberal arts college.) Denison, Wooster, and OWU are not as selective, maybe on par with Miami for the most part.

Denison is more selective than Wooster and Wooster is more selective than OWU.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid graduated from the conservatory at Oberlin. I loved the campus and town! Kid had a fantastic 4 years there. It's actually at most 30 minutes from Cleveland and there is a campus shuttle to the airport.

Mine is about to start in the college and I loved the town when we visited. Glad to know that your child had a great experience - mine can't wait!