Liberal Arts Schools in Ohio

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Anonymous wrote:All these schools are fading. Concerns about ROI.

Source?

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Anonymous wrote:Those of us from OH were always surprised about how many east coast kids came to OH for college...especially from NY and NJ.

OWU grad here. I agree. At the time I went nearly 80% of the students were from out of state. Mostly from the NE, with a handful from other midwestern states, one or two from the South, and a few from out west.

The professors were great. I received a full tuition fellowship and stipend to a major university for graduate school (literally left grad school with no loans and money in my pocket).

I now have a thriving career.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree there are some great liberal arts schools in Ohio. But if your goal is to head home after graduation to the east coast (where a lot of these non-Ohio kids seems to come from), is there enough brand recognition to land a good job?

Yes.

Yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All these schools are fading. Concerns about ROI.

How did I miss dummy being here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All these schools are fading. Concerns about ROI.

These schools are not fading. As the UMC continues to hoard opportunities these schools are in greater demand as evidenced by Denison’s admission rates. They will have to contend with challenges - from low birth rates from the GFC to Covid but the Top 50 LACs will be fine. It is inherently the ultimate luxury good.

And from personal experience having one at Denison I can say it has worked out very well for us. He’s quite happy and I can see him maturing in a safe place. Unfortunately this past semester has been rough as he genuinely misses being on campus. As a family we hate the drive but love visiting. Super cute town.

I have one more to go and I’d happily have her attend.

Kenyon will be fine. It’s truly a national LAC. I was a fan of Oberlin, but hard to look past the recent fiasco. Have to think that’s will impact admissions.

I also think Wooster will do well. Great outcomes and given their discounting, ROI.

Further west, some fantastic schools.

As I said I believe the residential LAC experience is inherently a luxury product so depending upon your discounted price the ROI of state flagships is likely much greater. My second child had two offers from state flagships with the cost of attendance was basically room and board. And they were fairly highly ranked (Top 25 Public’s). Likely could have went to Miami Ohio for free. That’s hard to argue against but she was a different type of student. But for my youngest we’ll work to have her attend a LAC. And as I live in the Northeast I’d like for it to be in the Midwest. Get them out of the bubble.

But fading - no.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All these schools are fading. Concerns about ROI.

These schools are not fading. As the UMC continues to hoard opportunities these schools are in greater demand as evidenced by Denison’s admission rates. They will have to contend with challenges - from low birth rates from the GFC to Covid but the Top 50 LACs will be fine. It is inherently the ultimate luxury good.

And from personal experience having one at Denison I can say it has worked out very well for us. He’s quite happy and I can see him maturing in a safe place. Unfortunately this past semester has been rough as he genuinely misses being on campus. As a family we hate the drive but love visiting. Super cute town.

I have one more to go and I’d happily have her attend.

Kenyon will be fine. It’s truly a national LAC. I was a fan of Oberlin, but hard to look past the recent fiasco. Have to think that’s will impact admissions.

I also think Wooster will do well. Great outcomes and given their discounting, ROI.

Further west, some fantastic schools.

As I said I believe the residential LAC experience is inherently a luxury product so depending upon your discounted price the ROI of state flagships is likely much greater. My second child had two offers from state flagships with the cost of attendance was basically room and board. And they were fairly highly ranked (Top 25 Public’s). Likely could have went to Miami Ohio for free. That’s hard to argue against but she was a different type of student. But for my youngest we’ll work to have her attend a LAC. And as I live in the Northeast I’d like for it to be in the Midwest. Get them out of the bubble.

But fading - no.

Lots of good insight here. I like your reference to "ultimate luxury good". I'm not sure if that's been said in this way before (probably?), but I think it captures the sentiment quite well.

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Anonymous wrote:All these schools are fading. Concerns about ROI.

Source?

I'm the OP of the comment but I would like to add that sources such as payscale aren't really accurate and reliable. In Princeton reviews' the ROI index, Wabash is even on par with Bowdoin, both having the same ave grad salary.

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Otterbein is often overlooked

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Anonymous wrote:Carleton and Grinnell are top SLACs, as are Pomona, Reed and Davidson. Don't let the snobs get to you.

And always have been. Back in the 80s, kids from our West coast school who applied to Ivies also applied to these schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Carleton and Grinnell are top SLACs, as are Pomona, Reed and Davidson. Don't let the snobs get to you.

And always have been. Back in the 80s, kids from our West coast school who applied to Ivies also applied to these schools.

That is all well and good, but none of these schools are in Ohio, LOL.

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Anonymous wrote:Otterbein is often overlooked

Otterbein is great for theater -- on par with Juliard and usually paired with Juliard in showcases.

But the rest of the college ran into some controversy a few years back as essentially being a diploma mill.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t oberlin the hardest to get into in Ohio?

No clue. I am serious when I say that I know no one who went there. I was in the top 10% of my class, and everyone went to Ohio State in the honors program or got out of dodge.

I'd say this is true, that no one in OH goes there. I'm an OH native as well. I think, in part, it's overpriced. It is also, unfortunately, located in Lorain County. That place is a shit hole (one side of my family is from there and so I have lots of insight into that).

Honestly, I am just not a fan of Ohio (as a state). The cities, even the big ones, tend to be very provincial and inward looking. Very little sense of life outside the buckeye state. Others may disagree but that is my view. This is esp. true for Cincy and Cleveland.

There are some decent schools there but, honestly, you have to consider location.

Flame away but that's my (very informed) view having grown up there and all my family is there scattered through the state.

It is not a beauty pageant! I am so offended by the sexist tone of some DCUM posters. Our daughters are not OBJECTS for you to rate, like a product on amazon.
I can’t stand the state in general, but I like Cleveland. Very interesting and great cultural stuff. Columbus...is boring beyond human comprehension. As for the women, well, there’s there are , say, 6s and Ohio 6s.

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This is why the TV show was called "Hot in Cleveland". . . .

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“No one from OH goes there” (87.5 % from OH). Classic DCUM idiocy.