Liberal Arts Schools in Ohio

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Anonymous wrote:Would you put Denison in the same category as Oberlin/Kenyon?


No, it's not but it gives better merit to students who aren't tippy top so it still can draw some smart kids. It's also much more of a preppy school, and more mainstream. Go visit and you'll see the differences.


Get your point re: Oberlin. But isn't Kenyon quite preppy and "mainstream"?
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Anonymous wrote:Now that my DD's college search is in full swing, I'm suprised that there are so many great offerings in Ohio. Yes, I'm an East Coast elitist snob, but certainly learning the error of my ways. For those in the know, please let me know of your impressions of Oberlin, Kenyon, Denison, Wooster, Ohio Wesleyan...did I miss any? Is there a stereotypical student at each one?


Not liberal arts, but you should add Miami and Case. Two excellent schools that seem very popular with kids in the DMV.


CWRU grad here. If you tour John Carrol, you might as well swing by Case since it's basically down the street. Lots of alumni in the DMV. I'm an engineer, but it's a good school for pre-med.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Would you put Denison in the same category as Oberlin/Kenyon?


No, it's not but it gives better merit to students who aren't tippy top so it still can draw some smart kids. It's also much more of a preppy school, and more mainstream. Go visit and you'll see the differences.


Get your point re: Oberlin. But isn't Kenyon quite preppy and "mainstream"?


Kenyon has preppy, mainstream, quirky, artsy, athletic and intellectual students. Quite a mix in 1600 people.

Kenyon is isolated. Having a friend with a car or having a car helps a lot. When people talk about how much closer Denison is to Columbus than Kenyon is (maybe a half hour more), I have to laugh. Columbus is not exactly at the center of the cultural universe.

Going to Kenyon can be great if your students understand its limitations. The community pulls together and you can get a great education there. I wouldn't recommend moving to Gambier for the rest of your life, but four years there can be great.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Would you put Denison in the same category as Oberlin/Kenyon?


No, it's not but it gives better merit to students who aren't tippy top so it still can draw some smart kids. It's also much more of a preppy school, and more mainstream. Go visit and you'll see the differences.


Get your point re: Oberlin. But isn't Kenyon quite preppy and "mainstream"?


Kenyon is definitely more preppy than Oberlin but it's more of a mix than Denison. It just feels more like an intellectual school whereas Denison feels more social. Hard to describe but it's a vibe. My daughter thought the students at Denison were friendlier but the classes were less intense - one student's opinion so take it for what it's worth. In the end my daughter preferred Oberlin to both and having seen all three I can understand why she did. Oberlin is by far the most artsy and musical, which for her were big draws. It also has the best town, which is just across the street from campus. Everyone has things they prioritize so if you can I'd visit (before or after applying) and it will become clear to your child which school might fit.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Would you put Denison in the same category as Oberlin/Kenyon?


No, it's not but it gives better merit to students who aren't tippy top so it still can draw some smart kids. It's also much more of a preppy school, and more mainstream. Go visit and you'll see the differences.


Get your point re: Oberlin. But isn't Kenyon quite preppy and "mainstream"?


Kenyon has preppy, mainstream, quirky, artsy, athletic and intellectual students. Quite a mix in 1600 people.

Kenyon is isolated. Having a friend with a car or having a car helps a lot. When people talk about how much closer Denison is to Columbus than Kenyon is (maybe a half hour more), I have to laugh. Columbus is not exactly at the center of the cultural universe.

Going to Kenyon can be great if your students understand its limitations. The community pulls together and you can get a great education there. I wouldn't recommend moving to Gambier for the rest of your life, but four years there can be great.


Classic East Coast ignorance. Columbus has a lot to offer millennials.

http://www.motherjones.com/media/2015/06/columbus-ohio-millennials-brooklyn/

http://www.unpakt.com/blog/millennials-moving-columbus-ohio/

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/travel/destinations/north-america/united-states/ohio/why-columbus-should-be-on-your-travel-radar-hipster-city-ohio-next-brooklyn

My DC, a Denison student, goes to Columbus routinely to attend the symphony and the ballet. DC also enjoys the North Market in Columbus.

http://www.northmarket.com/

Step outside of your East Coast bubble from time to time and you'll find interesting things.



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Many people don't know that Miami of Ohio is actually public because it is so beautiful that it looks private. I know kids who have done very well there. Strong alumni network. Lots of east coast kids go there. Hidden gem. Fairly easy to get into.

Thanks for input! What about Miami in Oxford? Where does that fit in. In terms of vibe, heard its very preppy?
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Funny. I grew up in Cincy and went to U of Cincy. Have lived in DC for 30 years and love it but must admit that the people are generally much more friendly in the "dreaded flyover area".

Anonymous wrote:It's funny to me how the DMV has just "discovered" all these great schools in Ohio. The country will be so much better off the more of these East Coast elites are exposed to Midwestern sensibilities and Midwester nice.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Would you put Denison in the same category as Oberlin/Kenyon?


No, it's not but it gives better merit to students who aren't tippy top so it still can draw some smart kids. It's also much more of a preppy school, and more mainstream. Go visit and you'll see the differences.


Get your point re: Oberlin. But isn't Kenyon quite preppy and "mainstream"?


Kenyon has preppy, mainstream, quirky, artsy, athletic and intellectual students. Quite a mix in 1600 people.

Kenyon is isolated. Having a friend with a car or having a car helps a lot. When people talk about how much closer Denison is to Columbus than Kenyon is (maybe a half hour more), I have to laugh. Columbus is not exactly at the center of the cultural universe.

Going to Kenyon can be great if your students understand its limitations. The community pulls together and you can get a great education there. I wouldn't recommend moving to Gambier for the rest of your life, but four years there can be great.


Classic East Coast ignorance. Columbus has a lot to offer millennials.

http://www.motherjones.com/media/2015/06/columbus-ohio-millennials-brooklyn/

http://www.unpakt.com/blog/millennials-moving-columbus-ohio/

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/travel/destinations/north-america/united-states/ohio/why-columbus-should-be-on-your-travel-radar-hipster-city-ohio-next-brooklyn

My DC, a Denison student, goes to Columbus routinely to attend the symphony and the ballet. DC also enjoys the North Market in Columbus.

http://www.northmarket.com/

Step outside of your East Coast bubble from time to time and you'll find interesting things.





I'm the PP who wrote about Columbus not being the center of the cultural universe. I've been in Columbus a number of times for work since my graduation from Kenyon. I was there in June. I prefer larger cities such as New York, Chicago, LA and San Francisco (to mention a few) for my cultural universe. Funny, I'm not in an East Coast bubble at all. I'm from the midwest. Columbus is fine as the city it is, but Kenyon draws a number of students from the East Coast who may find Columbus just doesn't do it for them. Of course, plenty of Ohio students go to Kenyon and some of them do not see Columbus as the place to be.

Great call on my being in an East Coast bubble. You couldn't be more wrong.
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Anonymous wrote:Many people don't know that Miami of Ohio is actually public because it is so beautiful that it looks private. I know kids who have done very well there. Strong alumni network. Lots of east coast kids go there. Hidden gem. Fairly easy to get into.

Thanks for input! What about Miami in Oxford? Where does that fit in. In terms of vibe, heard its very preppy?


Alum here. It's known as J. Crew U. for a reason. Bad alcohol and sex assault culture there. Good business school and premed and architecture programs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Would you put Denison in the same category as Oberlin/Kenyon?


No, it's not but it gives better merit to students who aren't tippy top so it still can draw some smart kids. It's also much more of a preppy school, and more mainstream. Go visit and you'll see the differences.


Get your point re: Oberlin. But isn't Kenyon quite preppy and "mainstream"?


Kenyon has preppy, mainstream, quirky, artsy, athletic and intellectual students. Quite a mix in 1600 people.

Kenyon is isolated. Having a friend with a car or having a car helps a lot. When people talk about how much closer Denison is to Columbus than Kenyon is (maybe a half hour more), I have to laugh. Columbus is not exactly at the center of the cultural universe.

Going to Kenyon can be great if your students understand its limitations. The community pulls together and you can get a great education there. I wouldn't recommend moving to Gambier for the rest of your life, but four years there can be great.


Classic East Coast ignorance. Columbus has a lot to offer millennials.

http://www.motherjones.com/media/2015/06/columbus-ohio-millennials-brooklyn/

http://www.unpakt.com/blog/millennials-moving-columbus-ohio/

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/travel/destinations/north-america/united-states/ohio/why-columbus-should-be-on-your-travel-radar-hipster-city-ohio-next-brooklyn

My DC, a Denison student, goes to Columbus routinely to attend the symphony and the ballet. DC also enjoys the North Market in Columbus.

http://www.northmarket.com/

Step outside of your East Coast bubble from time to time and you'll find interesting things.





I'm the PP who wrote about Columbus not being the center of the cultural universe. I've been in Columbus a number of times for work since my graduation from Kenyon. I was there in June. I prefer larger cities such as New York, Chicago, LA and San Francisco (to mention a few) for my cultural universe. Funny, I'm not in an East Coast bubble at all. I'm from the midwest. Columbus is fine as the city it is, but Kenyon draws a number of students from the East Coast who may find Columbus just doesn't do it for them. Of course, plenty of Ohio students go to Kenyon and some of them do not see Columbus as the place to be.

Great call on my being in an East Coast bubble. You couldn't be more wrong.


That explains it all.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Many people don't know that Miami of Ohio is actually public because it is so beautiful that it looks private. I know kids who have done very well there. Strong alumni network. Lots of east coast kids go there. Hidden gem. Fairly easy to get into.

Thanks for input! What about Miami in Oxford? Where does that fit in. In terms of vibe, heard its very preppy?


Miami is preppy, VERY CONSERVATIVE for a large public state university, students tend to be wealthy, big Greek life. The campus is very nice. It's fairly near Cincinnati which is also conservative for a mid-size city. One strange thing about it if you have a daughter is that none of the sororities have houses - all sorority women live in dorms (or off campus like other students, if juniors/seniors). They have a good business school and a strong reputation for liberal arts as well.

If your kid isn't super interested in Greek life or is artsy, hippie, etc. - not that there isn't that population at Miami because it's a large school with literally every type of student there - they might fit in better at Ohio University on the other side of the state. OU's campus is more isolated in a small town in Appalachia, and the nearest big city is Columbus and that's about 2 hours away. Campus is very nice, size is similar to Miami, less focus on social fraternities/sororities, overall very liberal reputation. They have strong programs for communications, journalism, media, and computer science.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Many people don't know that Miami of Ohio is actually public because it is so beautiful that it looks private. I know kids who have done very well there. Strong alumni network. Lots of east coast kids go there. Hidden gem. Fairly easy to get into.

Thanks for input! What about Miami in Oxford? Where does that fit in. In terms of vibe, heard its very preppy?


Miami is preppy, VERY CONSERVATIVE for a large public state university, students tend to be wealthy, big Greek life. The campus is very nice. It's fairly near Cincinnati which is also conservative for a mid-size city. One strange thing about it if you have a daughter is that none of the sororities have houses - all sorority women live in dorms (or off campus like other students, if juniors/seniors). They have a good business school and a strong reputation for liberal arts as well.

If your kid isn't super interested in Greek life or is artsy, hippie, etc. - not that there isn't that population at Miami because it's a large school with literally every type of student there - they might fit in better at Ohio University on the other side of the state. OU's campus is more isolated in a small town in Appalachia, and the nearest big city is Columbus and that's about 2 hours away. Campus is very nice, size is similar to Miami, less focus on social fraternities/sororities, overall very liberal reputation. They have strong programs for communications, journalism, media, and computer science.

I'm a late '80s Miami grad and PP is correct. At the same time, I wasn't preppy or into Greek life and still enjoyed my time there. For the slightly crunchier side of Miami, look into the Individualized Studies program, AKA Western College program, which is what I did. http://miamioh.edu/cas/academics/programs/western/. It used to be a separate school of Miami (and before that a progressive private separate women's college) but shrunk to just a department about a decade a ago.

Ohio University is also as PP describes it, but OU is less selective and well-known by those outside Ohio...if that matters.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Funny. I grew up in Cincy and went to U of Cincy. Have lived in DC for 30 years and love it but must admit that the people are generally much more friendly in the "dreaded flyover area".

Anonymous wrote:It's funny to me how the DMV has just "discovered" all these great schools in Ohio. The country will be so much better off the more of these East Coast elites are exposed to Midwestern sensibilities and Midwester nice.

Really?
I moved to Cinci about 2 years ago and natives of Cincinnati are not at all friendly. Very insular and unable to understand there's a whole world outside of Ohio.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Many people don't know that Miami of Ohio is actually public because it is so beautiful that it looks private. I know kids who have done very well there. Strong alumni network. Lots of east coast kids go there. Hidden gem. Fairly easy to get into.

Thanks for input! What about Miami in Oxford? Where does that fit in. In terms of vibe, heard its very preppy?


Miami is preppy, VERY CONSERVATIVE for a large public state university, students tend to be wealthy, big Greek life. The campus is very nice. It's fairly near Cincinnati which is also conservative for a mid-size city. One strange thing about it if you have a daughter is that none of the sororities have houses - all sorority women live in dorms (or off campus like other students, if juniors/seniors). They have a good business school and a strong reputation for liberal arts as well.

If your kid isn't super interested in Greek life or is artsy, hippie, etc. - not that there isn't that population at Miami because it's a large school with literally every type of student there - they might fit in better at Ohio University on the other side of the state. OU's campus is more isolated in a small town in Appalachia, and the nearest big city is Columbus and that's about 2 hours away. Campus is very nice, size is similar to Miami, less focus on social fraternities/sororities, overall very liberal reputation. They have strong programs for communications, journalism, media, and computer science.


I'm a late '80s Miami grad and PP is correct. At the same time, I wasn't preppy or into Greek life and still enjoyed my time there. For the slightly crunchier side of Miami, look into the Individualized Studies program, AKA Western College program, which is what I did. http://miamioh.edu/cas/academics/programs/western/. It used to be a separate school of Miami (and before that a progressive private separate women's college) but shrunk to just a department about a decade a ago.

Ohio University is also as PP describes it, but OU is less selective and well-known by those outside Ohio...if that matters.
It's not like Miami in OH is well-known. Most people will automatically think "Florida" not "Ohio"
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Many people don't know that Miami of Ohio is actually public because it is so beautiful that it looks private. I know kids who have done very well there. Strong alumni network. Lots of east coast kids go there. Hidden gem. Fairly easy to get into.

Thanks for input! What about Miami in Oxford? Where does that fit in. In terms of vibe, heard its very preppy?


Miami is preppy, VERY CONSERVATIVE for a large public state university, students tend to be wealthy, big Greek life. The campus is very nice. It's fairly near Cincinnati which is also conservative for a mid-size city. One strange thing about it if you have a daughter is that none of the sororities have houses - all sorority women live in dorms (or off campus like other students, if juniors/seniors). They have a good business school and a strong reputation for liberal arts as well.

If your kid isn't super interested in Greek life or is artsy, hippie, etc. - not that there isn't that population at Miami because it's a large school with literally every type of student there - they might fit in better at Ohio University on the other side of the state. OU's campus is more isolated in a small town in Appalachia, and the nearest big city is Columbus and that's about 2 hours away. Campus is very nice, size is similar to Miami, less focus on social fraternities/sororities, overall very liberal reputation. They have strong programs for communications, journalism, media, and computer science.


I'm a late '80s Miami grad and PP is correct. At the same time, I wasn't preppy or into Greek life and still enjoyed my time there. For the slightly crunchier side of Miami, look into the Individualized Studies program, AKA Western College program, which is what I did. http://miamioh.edu/cas/academics/programs/western/. It used to be a separate school of Miami (and before that a progressive private separate women's college) but shrunk to just a department about a decade a ago.

Ohio University is also as PP describes it, but OU is less selective and well-known by those outside Ohio...if that matters.

It's not like Miami in OH is well-known. Most people will automatically think "Florida" not "Ohio"

Only people who are ignorant of higher education think that.
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