Is my child gifted? In Arlington magazine this month

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Anonymous wrote:The article was cringe-worthy. My kids went to ASFS. One DC was in the program 3-4 years ago and it is mainly a prize for the "it" pushy parents whose kids are rewarded with the GT label. Waters down the entire GT program at that school to worthless. I wonder if this would be a good lawsuit for using taxpayer money like this.

+100

[Anonymous]

It doesn't seem like APS is actually dealing with their new reality. Why are there still choice programs? The system seems antiquated.
If I had a truly gifted child, I'd move to Montgomery county, or maby Fairfax.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You know the only people that care about what school you went to are maybe your first employer

How many people's careers 15-30 years later have anything to do with what their first job

Conclusion just like the gifted program too many people care too much about what schools they go to

In law, your schools follow you around for life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know the only people that care about what school you went to are maybe your first employer

How many people's careers 15-30 years later have anything to do with what their first job

Conclusion just like the gifted program too many people care too much about what schools they go to

In law, your schools follow you around for life.

If my child goes into law, I would view that as a major parenting fail.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Amen! Why should those 1000 chosen ones get all the goodies? My kid is just as deserving of small classes and teacher attention but didn't win the stupid lottery. I pay the same taxes and we shouldn't lottery off education rights. I'd vote to kill this program in a heartbeat.

Do you support the expansion of Arlngton Tech at the Career Center?

Np- Is that costing 100mil?

If the issue is small class sizes and teacher attention, why don't we raise concerns with Arlington Tech and Teen Parenting and Langston (the ratios there are really crazy)?

[Anonymous]

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We have a capacity crisis. HB is a boutique program and the new building is going to cost 100mil to house 1000 kids. County is using it as part of Rosslyn revitalization. I'm all for investment in infrastructure, but the whole thing is off the rails. We need a fourth comprehensive high school. It sucks for the HB people, because they didn't want to move. It's so messed up.

Yes, look at the APS CIP that just passed. It includes $100M for 775 "seats" at HB. As a point of comparison, the CIP includes just $8M to add 600 "seats" to Yorktown and W-L (which might just mean more trailers). CIP here-- http://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/APS-CIP-16-Report-1.6-WEB_FINAL.pdf

And to tie this all back to the college discussion, the acceptance rates at HB aren't any higher than at Yorktown or W-L. So what are we spending all this money to accomplish? We're getting a really expensive building but not a better educational program.

But H-B would have stayed where it was for $0. That decision was not made by the school.

It's terrible, but that doesn't mean we should be spending a fortune on HB. It's totally not fair to HB. It's also not fair to the taxpayers and the rest of APS.

Agreed but north Arlington parents weren't going to send their middle schoolers to Rosslyn, so here we are.

[Anonymous]

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We have a capacity crisis. HB is a boutique program and the new building is going to cost 100mil to house 1000 kids. County is using it as part of Rosslyn revitalization. I'm all for investment in infrastructure, but the whole thing is off the rails. We need a fourth comprehensive high school. It sucks for the HB people, because they didn't want to move. It's so messed up.

Yes, look at the APS CIP that just passed. It includes $100M for 775 "seats" at HB. As a point of comparison, the CIP includes just $8M to add 600 "seats" to Yorktown and W-L (which might just mean more trailers). CIP here-- http://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/APS-CIP-16-Report-1.6-WEB_FINAL.pdf

And to tie this all back to the college discussion, the acceptance rates at HB aren't any higher than at Yorktown or W-L. So what are we spending all this money to accomplish? We're getting a really expensive building but not a better educational program.

But H-B would have stayed where it was for $0. That decision was not made by the school.

It's terrible, but that doesn't mean we should be spending a fortune on HB. It's totally not fair to HB. It's also not fair to the taxpayers and the rest of APS.

Agreed but north Arlington parents weren't going to send their middle schoolers to Rosslyn, so here we are.

Those of us in Clarendon/Courthouse/Lyon Park/Ashton Heights did not have issues at ALL with that scenario.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

We have a capacity crisis. HB is a boutique program and the new building is going to cost 100mil to house 1000 kids. County is using it as part of Rosslyn revitalization. I'm all for investment in infrastructure, but the whole thing is off the rails. We need a fourth comprehensive high school. It sucks for the HB people, because they didn't want to move. It's so messed up.

Yes, look at the APS CIP that just passed. It includes $100M for 775 "seats" at HB. As a point of comparison, the CIP includes just $8M to add 600 "seats" to Yorktown and W-L (which might just mean more trailers). CIP here-- http://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/APS-CIP-16-Report-1.6-WEB_FINAL.pdf

And to tie this all back to the college discussion, the acceptance rates at HB aren't any higher than at Yorktown or W-L. So what are we spending all this money to accomplish? We're getting a really expensive building but not a better educational program.

But H-B would have stayed where it was for $0. That decision was not made by the school.

It's terrible, but that doesn't mean we should be spending a fortune on HB. It's totally not fair to HB. It's also not fair to the taxpayers and the rest of APS.

Agreed but north Arlington parents weren't going to send their middle schoolers to Rosslyn, so here we are.

Those of us in Clarendon/Courthouse/Lyon Park/Ashton Heights did not have issues at ALL with that scenario.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Amen! Why should those 1000 chosen ones get all the goodies? My kid is just as deserving of small classes and teacher attention but didn't win the stupid lottery. I pay the same taxes and we shouldn't lottery off education rights. I'd vote to kill this program in a heartbeat.

Do you support the expansion of Arlngton Tech at the Career Center?

Np- Is that costing 100mil?

If the issue is small class sizes and teacher attention, why don't we raise concerns with Arlington Tech and Teen Parenting and Langston (the ratios there are really crazy)?

The issue is 100mil on 1000 kids. Is arlington tech costing 100 mil?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know the only people that care about what school you went to are maybe your first employer

How many people's careers 15-30 years later have anything to do with what their first job

Conclusion just like the gifted program too many people care too much about what schools they go to

In law, your schools follow you around for life.

If my child goes into law, I would view that as a major parenting fail.

Here, here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know the only people that care about what school you went to are maybe your first employer

How many people's careers 15-30 years later have anything to do with what their first job

Conclusion just like the gifted program too many people care too much about what schools they go to

In law, your schools follow you around for life.

If my child goes into law, I would view that as a major parenting fail.

Here, here.

+1,000,000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

We have a capacity crisis. HB is a boutique program and the new building is going to cost 100mil to house 1000 kids. County is using it as part of Rosslyn revitalization. I'm all for investment in infrastructure, but the whole thing is off the rails. We need a fourth comprehensive high school. It sucks for the HB people, because they didn't want to move. It's so messed up.

Yes, look at the APS CIP that just passed. It includes $100M for 775 "seats" at HB. As a point of comparison, the CIP includes just $8M to add 600 "seats" to Yorktown and W-L (which might just mean more trailers). CIP here-- http://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/APS-CIP-16-Report-1.6-WEB_FINAL.pdf

And to tie this all back to the college discussion, the acceptance rates at HB aren't any higher than at Yorktown or W-L. So what are we spending all this money to accomplish? We're getting a really expensive building but not a better educational program.

But H-B would have stayed where it was for $0. That decision was not made by the school.

It's terrible, but that doesn't mean we should be spending a fortune on HB. It's totally not fair to HB. It's also not fair to the taxpayers and the rest of APS.

Agreed but north Arlington parents weren't going to send their middle schoolers to Rosslyn, so here we are.

Those of us in Clarendon/Courthouse/Lyon Park/Ashton Heights did not have issues at ALL with that scenario.

True. It was the Taylor, Jamestown, Nottingham, Discovery folks that didn't want that. God forbid their children socialize with students of color or different socio-economic statuses.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Amen! Why should those 1000 chosen ones get all the goodies? My kid is just as deserving of small classes and teacher attention but didn't win the stupid lottery. I pay the same taxes and we shouldn't lottery off education rights. I'd vote to kill this program in a heartbeat.

Do you support the expansion of Arlngton Tech at the Career Center?

Np- Is that costing 100mil?

If the issue is small class sizes and teacher attention, why don't we raise concerns with Arlington Tech and Teen Parenting and Langston (the ratios there are really crazy)?

The issue is 100mil on 1000 kids. Is arlington tech costing 100 mil?

Read what the first PP said. Small class sizes are ok for some kids but not others? Why is HB the punching bag? I don't get the hate. APS doesn't spend any more money on it than it does on other schools. (Not talking about the new building. The hate preceded the Wilson fiasco.)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

We have a capacity crisis. HB is a boutique program and the new building is going to cost 100mil to house 1000 kids. County is using it as part of Rosslyn revitalization. I'm all for investment in infrastructure, but the whole thing is off the rails. We need a fourth comprehensive high school. It sucks for the HB people, because they didn't want to move. It's so messed up.

Yes, look at the APS CIP that just passed. It includes $100M for 775 "seats" at HB. As a point of comparison, the CIP includes just $8M to add 600 "seats" to Yorktown and W-L (which might just mean more trailers). CIP here-- http://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/APS-CIP-16-Report-1.6-WEB_FINAL.pdf

And to tie this all back to the college discussion, the acceptance rates at HB aren't any higher than at Yorktown or W-L. So what are we spending all this money to accomplish? We're getting a really expensive building but not a better educational program.

But H-B would have stayed where it was for $0. That decision was not made by the school.

It's terrible, but that doesn't mean we should be spending a fortune on HB. It's totally not fair to HB. It's also not fair to the taxpayers and the rest of APS.

Agreed but north Arlington parents weren't going to send their middle schoolers to Rosslyn, so here we are.

Those of us in Clarendon/Courthouse/Lyon Park/Ashton Heights did not have issues at ALL with that scenario.

True. It was the Taylor, Jamestown, Nottingham, Discovery folks that didn't want that. God forbid their children socialize with students of color or different socio-economic statuses.

+1

Since the new middle school is opening to deal with overcrowding at Williamsburg and Swanson, the thoughts of parents in Ashton Heights and Lyon Park do not really matter - those kids go to TJ and since TJ is not overcrowded those neighborhoods will likely not be rezoned to the new middle school.

Its always easy to use the race card and rarely ever persuasive.

I am a parent zoned for Taylor though my kids went to ASF, my last will be out of Swanson before Stratford reopens and then at a very overcrowded WL. Plenty of socializing "with students of color or different socio-economic statuses." And for that I am very grateful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

We have a capacity crisis. HB is a boutique program and the new building is going to cost 100mil to house 1000 kids. County is using it as part of Rosslyn revitalization. I'm all for investment in infrastructure, but the whole thing is off the rails. We need a fourth comprehensive high school. It sucks for the HB people, because they didn't want to move. It's so messed up.

Yes, look at the APS CIP that just passed. It includes $100M for 775 "seats" at HB. As a point of comparison, the CIP includes just $8M to add 600 "seats" to Yorktown and W-L (which might just mean more trailers). CIP here-- http://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/APS-CIP-16-Report-1.6-WEB_FINAL.pdf

And to tie this all back to the college discussion, the acceptance rates at HB aren't any higher than at Yorktown or W-L. So what are we spending all this money to accomplish? We're getting a really expensive building but not a better educational program.

But H-B would have stayed where it was for $0. That decision was not made by the school.

It's terrible, but that doesn't mean we should be spending a fortune on HB. It's totally not fair to HB. It's also not fair to the taxpayers and the rest of APS.

Agreed but north Arlington parents weren't going to send their middle schoolers to Rosslyn, so here we are.

Those of us in Clarendon/Courthouse/Lyon Park/Ashton Heights did not have issues at ALL with that scenario.

True. It was the Taylor, Jamestown, Nottingham, Discovery folks that didn't want that. God forbid their children socialize with students of color or different socio-economic statuses.

+1

Since the new middle school is opening to deal with overcrowding at Williamsburg and Swanson, the thoughts of parents in Ashton Heights and Lyon Park do not really matter - those kids go to TJ and since TJ is not overcrowded those neighborhoods will likely not be rezoned to the new middle school.

Its always easy to use the race card and rarely ever persuasive.

I am a parent zoned for Taylor though my kids went to ASF, my last will be out of Swanson before Stratford reopens and then at a very overcrowded WL. Plenty of socializing "with students of color or different socio-economic statuses." And for that I am very grateful.

What about the thoughts of those like Lyon Village/parts of corridor that are Swanson-zoned? We were 100% for Wilson school.