Is my child gifted? In Arlington magazine this month

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Anonymous wrote:I just looked through the college admissions statistics section. Other than UVa and William and Mary (no small thing, to be sure), the numbers for elite schools are terrible.



That's been discussed on other threads ( possibly this one?) lots of northern va kids going to elite privates and TJ. Without a major hook, your Yorktown A student will be lucky to get into UVA. Too many kids. Colleges look for diversity for student bodies. That includes geographic. Your kid Better have an extraordinary talent. Otherwise forget it.


UVA told me in 1988 (with a 4.2 gpA); several varsity sports scholarships and other accolades, high SATs, that Jefferson wanted diversity and there was a cap on kids from Northern VA and my HS.

They want out-of-state tuition is what they want.

Read up on that issue. The VA universities make much more $ with more out-of-state students.


#10 out of 759 at my Fairfax Co. HS...


Guess there were only 9 spots for your HS.


The top 9 went to better Universities out of state--as did I.

Further insult, a few minorities with a GPA a full point lower than mine did get into UVA at the time. They were of the same SES background. One's father was a surgeon.


But if you vote for Donald Trump he will stop this, and it will be Great! And Yuuugggeee!!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just looked through the college admissions statistics section. Other than UVa and William and Mary (no small thing, to be sure), the numbers for elite schools are terrible.



That's been discussed on other threads ( possibly this one?) lots of northern va kids going to elite privates and TJ. Without a major hook, your Yorktown A student will be lucky to get into UVA. Too many kids. Colleges look for diversity for student bodies. That includes geographic. Your kid Better have an extraordinary talent. Otherwise forget it.


UVA told me in 1988 (with a 4.2 gpA); several varsity sports scholarships and other accolades, high SATs, that Jefferson wanted diversity and there was a cap on kids from Northern VA and my HS.

They want out-of-state tuition is what they want.

Read up on that issue. The VA universities make much more $ with more out-of-state students.


#10 out of 759 at my Fairfax Co. HS...


Guess there were only 9 spots for your HS.


The top 9 went to better Universities out of state--as did I.

Further insult, a few minorities with a GPA a full point lower than mine did get into UVA at the time. They were of the same SES background. One's father was a surgeon.


But if you vote for Donald Trump he will stop this, and it will be Great! And Yuuugggeee!!


Wow, great and huge. Very original! Did you go to George Mason?
Anonymous
You know the only people that care about what school you went to are maybe your first employer

How many people's careers 15-30 years later have anything to do with what their first job

Conclusion just like the gifted program too many people care too much about what schools they go to
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You know the only people that care about what school you went to are maybe your first employer

How many people's careers 15-30 years later have anything to do with what their first job

Conclusion just like the gifted program too many people care too much about what schools they go to


Top schools. Recruited to top firm. Amazing opportunities that I can certainly link to where I am now. Most of my peers have had a similar path.

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Anonymous wrote:You know the only people that care about what school you went to are maybe your first employer

How many people's careers 15-30 years later have anything to do with what their first job

Conclusion just like the gifted program too many people care too much about what schools they go to


Top schools. Recruited to top firm. Amazing opportunities that I can certainly link to where I am now. Most of my peers have had a similar path.



I agree. I am a VA Tech undergrad. and graduate school--MS. Many of my co-workers have Ivy degrees/PhDs and several have law degrees--Georgetown, American, GW on top of that. I am now a Director over many of these Ivy grads 20-years later.

My parents insisted on in-state for their 3 kids and promised we would not have to pay a cent. They would cover it. However, If we wanted to go out-of-state we would need student loans to make up the differential. My graduate degree was fully covered by my stipend/teaching assistant.

My STEM degree was the key. If I were liberal arts that first job might have been a little trickier to land--but after that it's totally merit-based.

My husband went to Johns Hopkins. He was from very humble/low SES origins. I definitely see the network he benefited from. I think the privates are best for connections. I am not convinced all top privates offer the best education there is to offer. One only has to look at the law professors and speakers that GMU has to see that. However, the networking from the Ivies/top private is a biggie throughout life.

Medical schools are something else entirely. I definitely look for the Hopkins, Georgetown, etc degrees vs Caribbean/Hawaii med school degrees.
Anonymous
The article was cringe-worthy. My kids went to ASFS. One DC was in the program 3-4 years ago and it is mainly a prize for the "it" pushy parents whose kids are rewarded with the GT label. Waters down the entire GT program at that school to worthless. I wonder if this would be a good lawsuit for using taxpayer money like this.
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Anonymous wrote:The article was cringe-worthy. My kids went to ASFS. One DC was in the program 3-4 years ago and it is mainly a prize for the "it" pushy parents whose kids are rewarded with the GT label. Waters down the entire GT program at that school to worthless. I wonder if this would be a good lawsuit for using taxpayer money like this.




Go after HB while your at it. Unbelievable waste of money.
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Anonymous wrote:The article was cringe-worthy. My kids went to ASFS. One DC was in the program 3-4 years ago and it is mainly a prize for the "it" pushy parents whose kids are rewarded with the GT label. Waters down the entire GT program at that school to worthless. I wonder if this would be a good lawsuit for using taxpayer money like this.




Go after HB while your at it. Unbelievable waste of money.


How, specifically? I hear this all the time but don't know what people are referring to.
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Anonymous wrote:The article was cringe-worthy. My kids went to ASFS. One DC was in the program 3-4 years ago and it is mainly a prize for the "it" pushy parents whose kids are rewarded with the GT label. Waters down the entire GT program at that school to worthless. I wonder if this would be a good lawsuit for using taxpayer money like this.




Go after HB while your at it. Unbelievable waste of money.


How, specifically? I hear this all the time but don't know what people are referring to.



We have a capacity crisis. HB is a boutique program and the new building is going to cost 100mil to house 1000 kids. County is using it as part of Rosslyn revitalization. I'm all for investment in infrastructure, but the whole thing is off the rails. We need a fourth comprehensive high school. It sucks for the HB people, because they didn't want to move. It's so messed up.
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We have a capacity crisis. HB is a boutique program and the new building is going to cost 100mil to house 1000 kids. County is using it as part of Rosslyn revitalization. I'm all for investment in infrastructure, but the whole thing is off the rails. We need a fourth comprehensive high school. It sucks for the HB people, because they didn't want to move. It's so messed up.


Yes, look at the APS CIP that just passed. It includes $100M for 775 "seats" at HB. As a point of comparison, the CIP includes just $8M to add 600 "seats" to Yorktown and W-L (which might just mean more trailers). CIP here-- http://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/APS-CIP-16-Report-1.6-WEB_FINAL.pdf

And to tie this all back to the college discussion, the acceptance rates at HB aren't any higher than at Yorktown or W-L. So what are we spending all this money to accomplish? We're getting a really expensive building but not a better educational program.
Anonymous
Amen! Why should those 1000 chosen ones get all the goodies? My kid is just as deserving of small classes and teacher attention but didn't win the stupid lottery. I pay the same taxes and we shouldn't lottery off education rights. I'd vote to kill this program in a heartbeat.
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Anonymous wrote:

We have a capacity crisis. HB is a boutique program and the new building is going to cost 100mil to house 1000 kids. County is using it as part of Rosslyn revitalization. I'm all for investment in infrastructure, but the whole thing is off the rails. We need a fourth comprehensive high school. It sucks for the HB people, because they didn't want to move. It's so messed up.


Yes, look at the APS CIP that just passed. It includes $100M for 775 "seats" at HB. As a point of comparison, the CIP includes just $8M to add 600 "seats" to Yorktown and W-L (which might just mean more trailers). CIP here-- http://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/APS-CIP-16-Report-1.6-WEB_FINAL.pdf

And to tie this all back to the college discussion, the acceptance rates at HB aren't any higher than at Yorktown or W-L. So what are we spending all this money to accomplish? We're getting a really expensive building but not a better educational program.


But H-B would have stayed where it was for $0. That decision was not made by the school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Amen! Why should those 1000 chosen ones get all the goodies? My kid is just as deserving of small classes and teacher attention but didn't win the stupid lottery. I pay the same taxes and we shouldn't lottery off education rights. I'd vote to kill this program in a heartbeat.


Do you support the expansion of Arlngton Tech at the Career Center?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Amen! Why should those 1000 chosen ones get all the goodies? My kid is just as deserving of small classes and teacher attention but didn't win the stupid lottery. I pay the same taxes and we shouldn't lottery off education rights. I'd vote to kill this program in a heartbeat.


Do you support the expansion of Arlngton Tech at the Career Center?



Np- Is that costing 100mil?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

We have a capacity crisis. HB is a boutique program and the new building is going to cost 100mil to house 1000 kids. County is using it as part of Rosslyn revitalization. I'm all for investment in infrastructure, but the whole thing is off the rails. We need a fourth comprehensive high school. It sucks for the HB people, because they didn't want to move. It's so messed up.


Yes, look at the APS CIP that just passed. It includes $100M for 775 "seats" at HB. As a point of comparison, the CIP includes just $8M to add 600 "seats" to Yorktown and W-L (which might just mean more trailers). CIP here-- http://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/APS-CIP-16-Report-1.6-WEB_FINAL.pdf

And to tie this all back to the college discussion, the acceptance rates at HB aren't any higher than at Yorktown or W-L. So what are we spending all this money to accomplish? We're getting a really expensive building but not a better educational program.


But H-B would have stayed where it was for $0. That decision was not made by the school.



It's terrible, but that doesn't mean we should be spending a fortune on HB. It's totally not fair to HB. It's also not fair to the taxpayers and the rest of APS.
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