School residency cheaters investigated

Anonymous
The "free preschool" DC v MD fraud does not hold much water at least for L-T; the pre-school families are almost all from the Capitol Hill area, and there is little fraud there, as I know pretty much all the neighbors that go there (small school, few families).

Principal Bell is gone now, but I can see why she would not agree to go harass kids and families at drop off on the spot, in front of reporters, on the sidewalk! Just not professional, in any possible way.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Imagine if they had one of the directories from LT...


I would not be surprised if they already do. All it take is one pissed off parent to leak them.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I am extremely skeptical about the quality and motivation of Daily Caller investigative reporting, but I have to say, it does sound like a pretty severe problem and like they did actual (appropriate) reporting. It's not "stalking". But I'm not sure about the quality of the reporting. For example, how they describe L-T as

"in a mostly white neighborhood along a commuter route that runs from Prince George’s County to federal buildings downtown.

The school is almost entirely black and government statistics indicate that few of the students live in the neighborhood. Poor test scores have left neighborhood parents feeling they can’t use their own school, and must pay for private education or enroll their children in a more distant public school."

I don't think that accurately represents the L-T demographics, the current reputation of L-T, or the legitimate OOB system. It also seems to be trying to drive a pretty ugly racial/class wedge.


What's the commuter route from MD to L-T? The neighborhood demographics of L-T is not predominantly white. What am I missing in this awful reporting. There are so many lies or misinformation, such as in-state tuition to any state school, one has to wonder what the blogger got right.


Branch Ave to Pennsylvania Ave, then up 10th to LT. Then across H to downtown. not defending the rest of it but the commute stuff makes sense.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am extremely skeptical about the quality and motivation of Daily Caller investigative reporting, but I have to say, it does sound like a pretty severe problem and like they did actual (appropriate) reporting. It's not "stalking". But I'm not sure about the quality of the reporting. For example, how they describe L-T as

"in a mostly white neighborhood along a commuter route that runs from Prince George’s County to federal buildings downtown.

The school is almost entirely black and government statistics indicate that few of the students live in the neighborhood. Poor test scores have left neighborhood parents feeling they can’t use their own school, and must pay for private education or enroll their children in a more distant public school."

I don't think that accurately represents the L-T demographics, the current reputation of L-T, or the legitimate OOB system. It also seems to be trying to drive a pretty ugly racial/class wedge.


What's the commuter route from MD to L-T? The neighborhood demographics of L-T is not predominantly white. What am I missing in this awful reporting. There are so many lies or misinformation, such as in-state tuition to any state school, one has to wonder what the blogger got right.


Ward 6 was of 2010, 49% white, 41% black (it was majority black in 2000). The trend continues as Home values near LT start at 500k.

If you ever came over to the Hill on a weekday morning, you would notice the large volume of MD plated cars speeding through on MD Ave., PA Ave., C & H Streets, coming from Route 50, NY Abe, Bladensberg, 295, etc.

These parts of the article are absolutely true.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Setting aside the quality of the reporting, we can all agree that there is some degree of residency fraud. Perhaps not 40% but let's not kid ourselves that there is 0% or that every residency cheater involves some fragile kid suffering from abuse and poverty. But instead of recognizing that there is a valid problem, some of these posters are saying that residency fraud is not an issue because the article is crap. Our taxes are paying for residents in another state! Wake up people.


IMO, the reporting is the most appalling part of this story. That someone would post photos of anyone on the internet along with unsubstantiated rumors should be against the law if it isn't already. There was not one piece of factual evidence, except the words and photos proving that some nutcase spent time and energy engaged in legitimate harassment. And people here support it.

How anyone can try to pretend that this is all out of concern for needy children is barf-worthy.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The "free preschool" DC v MD fraud does not hold much water at least for L-T; the pre-school families are almost all from the Capitol Hill area, and there is little fraud there, as I know pretty much all the neighbors that go there (small school, few families).

Principal Bell is gone now, but I can see why she would not agree to go harass kids and families at drop off on the spot, in front of reporters, on the sidewalk! Just not professional, in any possible way.



agree. that the "reporter" seemed to want to force her to take some kind of action in the moment demonstrates that this was hack "reporting" like those planned parenthood guys, not real journalism.
Anonymous
I read the comments to the article. This article was intended to be race bait for Daily Caller readers and they reliably bit on to it.
It's terrifying, frankly
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I read the comments to the article. This article was intended to be race bait for Daily Caller readers and they reliably bit on to it.
It's terrifying, frankly


That may be, but Maryland cheaters and DCPS are giving them easy material.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I work at a DCPS, and the amount of residency fraud is incredible. Students don't bother to hide it and neither do parents. I don't work at a highly coveted DCPS either, and don't think the quality of education would be worse in PG County. It's about convenience for a lot of parents.


There you go.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I read the comments to the article. This article was intended to be race bait for Daily Caller readers and they reliably bit on to it.
It's terrifying, frankly


I wish I hadn't gone back to read the comments.

The hatred is getting out of control. And yes, frightening.

I'd like to get a picture of these reporters along with their license plates posted here and at every DC school.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Any of you who insist that our country should have open borders better not be the same people who are complaining about PG County residents illegally taking their kids to DC schools for a better education.


PP...you are reaching here. This argument is weak at best.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I do believe there is residency fraud. However, I believe this reporter out right lied in this article. How many people would stop and share their family situations with a stranger? Would any of you? And he states that he pulled tax records among other things to determine their lack of residency. Who gave them the names to pull? How many people would share their names with a stranger standing on the street asking questions.


You don't need a name if you have an address.


+1

They followed these people to their home. Once you have the address, you can pull all sorts of property and tax records from the District and MD county websites. Then once you have a name, you can cross-reference it with property in the District. They can also then look up marriage and divorce records to establish the household make-up.

My guess is that these parents didn't willingly volunteer information. More likely is that they were ambushed by these reporters with rhetorical questions - "Why do you live in MD and send your child to school in DC? Are you paying tuition to DCPS? Can you confirm that you are Joe Smith that works at the Department of Labor?" - that the reporters already knew the answers to. Using public records, you can easily figure out with 95% certainty if someone is a cheater. If these parents work for the government, they're even dumber - all their salary info is public record.


So why doesn't OSSE do this level of investigation?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Imagine if they had one of the directories from LT...


I would not be surprised if they already do. All it take is one pissed off parent to leak them.


What LT directory? Our DC attends and have not seen a directory.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:

Calling them investigative reporters is stretching the truth. Look, how could they have possible sat outside people's homes night after night to determine the residency. Are adults not allowed to have sleepovers? How many nights did these so-called investigative reporters sleep in their cars hiding in the dark, watching the comings and goings of the occupants? Did they follow the car one-time out of the city? How far did they trail the car? Did they stop at the border of the city? What. You know when my kid has a doctor's appointment, its; normally at the end of his school day. If the car followed me out of the city and not all the way to appointments, would they consider that an affirmation for their hit piece?

Also, somebody said once they followed a car the were able to find out who lived there. That's not true. I have a house in DC and I rent out another one in DC. The tax records to both homes would have my name. My sister rents her condo in DC to DC government Section 8. Because it is Section 8, my sister's name is on all the utility bills and taxes. So no, just following someone to the door does not give you the name of the occupants. Again, I think the so-called investigative reporter lied. What parent would provide their personal information to a stranger on a street.


Why could they have not sat outside people's homes night after night to determine the residency? I'm sure she was smart enough to know you didnt live at the doctors office and waited for you to finish. So what is your solution to stopping these people "we'll never know"?? The lengths youre going to to give these cheaters the benefit of the doubt is ludicrous. She probably knocked and confirmed it with your neighbors or coworkers. Once you have a name which you can get from an address you can find out everything about a person.


My neighbors. Biatch Please. I live in the Distict, and my kids attend a school that you you wish you kid send your kids. People like you is why manyof us long term residents can't lower ourselves to support your histrionics.. You really can't be so obtuse to believe that everyone who disagrees with you are non-residents.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am extremely skeptical about the quality and motivation of Daily Caller investigative reporting, but I have to say, it does sound like a pretty severe problem and like they did actual (appropriate) reporting. It's not "stalking". But I'm not sure about the quality of the reporting. For example, how they describe L-T as

"in a mostly white neighborhood along a commuter route that runs from Prince George’s County to federal buildings downtown.

The school is almost entirely black and government statistics indicate that few of the students live in the neighborhood. Poor test scores have left neighborhood parents feeling they can’t use their own school, and must pay for private education or enroll their children in a more distant public school."

I don't think that accurately represents the L-T demographics, the current reputation of L-T, or the legitimate OOB system. It also seems to be trying to drive a pretty ugly racial/class wedge.


What's the commuter route from MD to L-T? The neighborhood demographics of L-T is not predominantly white. What am I missing in this awful reporting. There are so many lies or misinformation, such as in-state tuition to any state school, one has to wonder what the blogger got right.


Ward 6 was of 2010, 49% white, 41% black (it was majority black in 2000). The trend continues as Home values near LT start at 500k.

If you ever came over to the Hill on a weekday morning, you would notice the large volume of MD plated cars speeding through on MD Ave., PA Ave., C & H Streets, coming from Route 50, NY Abe, Bladensberg, 295, etc.

These parts of the article are absolutely true.


How do you make the huge leap from "49% white" and "MD commuter route" to "all black kids at L-T live in MD"????
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