On the other hand ... Why do men put up with women?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here.

I just posted on this same topic on the other thread, but it seems that the caring things women do (making your lunch, buying your clothes, picking up your underwear off the floor) are discounted. I don't mean to say they are the be-all and end all, but the fact that somebody cares enough to DO those things for you is important. Not that you couldn't do yourself, but that somebody cares enough to do them for you.

But. That isn't what we are seeing. Men say they don't care for the things women do for them, they just care if they have sex. I think, however, their care and comfort is important to them, but they aren't valuing it.

You are right, but it is bigger than that: Men don't care about anything but themselves or things that immediately and directly affect them.

Think about it, when a husband opens his mouth what does he say? Things about himself! Things about his work! Things about his stuff! Things he wants to buy, for himself! Never about his wife, his kids, his house.

Other than that, actions speak louder than words.

LOL right that's why all the shopping malls are always filled with men compulsively shopping.

Is there something wrong with shopping? Or do you dumpster dive for everything you own?

There's nothing wrong with shopping. It's the resulting credit card debt that's the problem.

And... you somehow know the contents of all these women's bank accounts? LOL...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
You are right, but it is bigger than that: Men don't care about anything but themselves or things that immediately and directly affect them.

Think about it, when a husband opens his mouth what does he say? Things about himself! Things about his work! Things about his stuff! Things he wants to buy, for himself! Never about his wife, his kids, his house.

Other than that, actions speak louder than words.

I'm so glad that some bitter woman seems to know what we guys talk about. As it happens, I'm not much into sports or cars and I happen to spend a fair amount of time talking to other fathers about kids and home life. I'm more active in the parenting group that we're a part of than my wife is. Yes, it's mostly mothers, but there are some fathers there and we connect. I'm sorry that you married a selfish jerk, but trying to make a sweeping generalization about men because of that is no more fair than stereotyping women.

[Anonymous]

PP missed the boat again. The question is what do you talk about when you initiate a conversation with your wife?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here.

I just posted on this same topic on the other thread, but it seems that the caring things women do (making your lunch, buying your clothes, picking up your underwear off the floor) are discounted. I don't mean to say they are the be-all and end all, but the fact that somebody cares enough to DO those things for you is important. Not that you couldn't do yourself, but that somebody cares enough to do them for you.

But. That isn't what we are seeing. Men say they don't care for the things women do for them, they just care if they have sex. I think, however, their care and comfort is important to them, but they aren't valuing it.

You are right, but it is bigger than that: Men don't care about anything but themselves or things that immediately and directly affect them.

Think about it, when a husband opens his mouth what does he say? Things about himself! Things about his work! Things about his stuff! Things he wants to buy, for himself! Never about his wife, his kids, his house.

Other than that, actions speak louder than words.

LOL right that's why all the shopping malls are always filled with men compulsively shopping.

huh? Once you have kids and work FT you're shopping at grocery stores, Target and Amazon.com. You rarely have time to leisurely shop for yourself.
The shopping malls I go to have all high school kids on their open lunch breaks.

Is there something wrong with shopping? Or do you dumpster dive for everything you own?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP missed the boat again. The question is what do you talk about when you initiate a conversation with your wife?

NP here. Doesn't matter. She just stares at her phone and tunes me out. We have a kid, though, so most conversations aren't about either one of us.

[Anonymous]

Why do women always assume that THEIR standard of cleanliness and THEIR opinion of scheduling activities is the one that matters?

Most men aren't as worried about things being perfectly clean and organized as women are. That doesn't mean that men are wrong. It's just a different opinion. But women never seem to consider that. It's just "men are lazy."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP missed the boat again. The question is what do you talk about when you initiate a conversation with your wife?

I never initiate anything, I'm tired when I get home from working hard to provide for my family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP missed the boat again. The question is what do you talk about when you initiate a conversation with your wife?

NP here. Doesn't matter. She just stares at her phone and tunes me out. We have a kid, though, so most conversations aren't about either one of us.

Wow, you must be a horrible conversationalist. Your wife is probably talking to someone on tinder.

[Anonymous]

Ever notice that whenever a woman asks a man's opinion about something, if he actually contradicts her, she argues with him?

Happens every time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP missed the boat again. The question is what do you talk about when you initiate a conversation with your wife?

NP here. Doesn't matter. She just stares at her phone and tunes me out. We have a kid, though, so most conversations aren't about either one of us.

Wow, you must be a horrible conversationalist. Your wife is probably talking to someone on tinder.

Always the man's fault, we know. Since you are "bi" but only seem to go for women why so much railing against men?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A few of the threads here lately (such as a similarly named one) have convinced me that 50% of the women here are a self-serving, self-righteous, self-centered, and entitled bunch of people. I assume it is just because this is an anonymous forum and a great place to bitch about everything, but it has made me feel bad.

So, men, fair is fair. Why do you put up with women?? In general, we're an OK bunch, but sometimes ...

Three reasons:

pussy

anus

mouth

not necessarily in that order

also she brings me snacks at bedtime like a good female slave

Does she know how much you despise her and treat her like she's not a human?

There's so much bitter hatred on both of these threads. I've been through two divorces and some terrible heartbreak, but I can't imagine speaking this way about anyone.

My husband has been pestering me to get laid and I was feeling like maybe I should thrown him a bone. But this thread has just made me feel completely valid in not fucking him. I mean, if that's the only thing he cares about... then he can just jerk off into a jar for all I care.

Cheers to the men on this thread for clearing up those ten minutes tonight

Don't worry. With your attitude he won't pester you for forever. But once his attention to you becomes indifference, don't think that means he has lost interest in sex. It just means he has moved on from you, sexually speaking.

Enjoy your extra 10 minutes websurfing, and take pride that you've been a loyal member of the anti-sex wives club.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do women always assume that THEIR standard of cleanliness and THEIR opinion of scheduling activities is the one that matters?

Most men aren't as worried about things being perfectly clean and organized as women are. That doesn't mean that men are wrong. It's just a different opinion. But women never seem to consider that. It's just "men are lazy."

Your skid mark underpants on the floor aren't a standard of cleanliness at all. It's just dirty. We clean up your crap. Why is so hard for you Neanderthals to understand this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ever notice that whenever a woman asks a man's opinion about something, if he actually contradicts her, she argues with him?

Happens every time.

Nope.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here.

I just posted on this same topic on the other thread, but it seems that the caring things women do (making your lunch, buying your clothes, picking up your underwear off the floor) are discounted. I don't mean to say they are the be-all and end all, but the fact that somebody cares enough to DO those things for you is important. Not that you couldn't do yourself, but that somebody cares enough to do them for you.

But. That isn't what we are seeing. Men say they don't care for the things women do for them, they just care if they have sex. I think, however, their care and comfort is important to them, but they aren't valuing it.

You are right, but it is bigger than that: Men don't care about anything but themselves or things that immediately and directly affect them.

Think about it, when a husband opens his mouth what does he say? Things about himself! Things about his work! Things about his stuff! Things he wants to buy, for himself! Never about his wife, his kids, his house.

Other than that, actions speak louder than words.

LOL right that's why all the shopping malls are always filled with men compulsively shopping.

I dare not let DH loose in Costco with a credit card. That man always buys a bunch of impulse shopping crap, and he WILL NOT make returns.

[Anonymous]

It is well known in the retail world that men spend far less time shopping, but when they do shop, they spend more money -- and they don't haggle as much, or fuss about coupons and little things (unless it's a big ticket item -- then their ego comes into play).