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Anonymous wrote:My observations- Axe has no idea Chuck was behind this because Chuck was smart enough to use a con guy to con a con artist! Between Lara and Ice Juice he will lose his mojo and the company will suffer. Lara is totally unhinged with the whole Wendy re-hire. Her reaction to it was out of control.

I think that Chuck was totally okay blowing his own Trust because its not about the money, its about finally getting Axe. I do think that had Wendy told him that she too had invested he would have called off the whole thing.

Taylor - I love that character! she/it/they/them is very complex and obviously torn between two worlds. One where she can have anything she wants and one where its evil to have all those things she really wants. So which one will she be true to? I also think that she is going to replace Wags - not on the show but will knock him out of that powerful position he has at Axe Cap. Wags is already a hot mess, can't control himself. Taylor is way smarter and more calculated than he is.

Axe felt so strongly that he needed Wendy that he lied to his wife about it. Which means that he knew full well how she'd feel about it, but the need for Wendy was greater than his wife's wishes or maintaining her trust. That's a pretty big deal in a marriage.

I can't see Taylor taking Wags' place because she's/he's/they're just not ruthless enough. Might get there, but it can't replace the trust Axe has with Wags

I agree in a general sense with your comment however Lara made it very difficult for Axe to be honest with her. Axe re-hired Wendy for the good of the company as a whole. Also remember that Wendy did nothing wrong, it was Chuck who snuck on to her laptop last season - and Wendy left him because of it! Lara is jealous of something that she herself created, and she is showing her insecurity. Had she allowed Axe to be honest with her, Axe would not have felt the need to start confiding more in Wendy instead of her. But it's clear that Axe worships Lara. Lara knows it and is using it against him.

Taylor is totally ruthless enough are you kidding? did you see that smirk on her face when she realized just how much power Axe handed to her?

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I think Taylor is a sacrificial lamb and will crash because of her associations with Connerty. It will be seen and mis-interpreted and her / their world will come tumbling down. But I'd like to be wrong about this because I really like the character.

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I agree in a general sense with your comment however Lara made it very difficult for Axe to be honest with her. Axe re-hired Wendy for the good of the company as a whole. Also remember that Wendy did nothing wrong, it was Chuck who snuck on to her laptop last season - and Wendy left him because of it! Lara is jealous of something that she herself created, and she is showing her insecurity. Had she allowed Axe to be honest with her, Axe would not have felt the need to start confiding more in Wendy instead of her. But it's clear that Axe worships Lara. Lara knows it and is using it against him.

Taylor is totally ruthless enough are you kidding? did you see that smirk on her face when she realized just how much power Axe handed to her?

What you say about Wendy being good for the company makes sense from a rational point of view, but not from the view of a wife. Lara is on par with Axe in fiercely protecting her own investments. She's been there for him since they were poor, she's been his best confidante and adviser, she knows him better than anyone. He should know that SHE is the one that the company needs, not some super sexy wife of a sniveling prosecutor who almost brought them down. Remember - they had to pack up and go into hiding. She's got to be feeling that there's something else going there, if not an affair, a reliance that's actually a weakness that could undermine him. But more important than that, he lied about it. She's going to be second-guessing everything he says and does. Think how crazy it would make Axe if he had to deal with that much uncertainty.

And the thing about Taylor is that she's encountered every emotional weakness there is and conquered it. But avarice is entirely new for her, which means she doesn't yet know how it can trip her up.

[Anonymous]

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I agree in a general sense with your comment however Lara made it very difficult for Axe to be honest with her. Axe re-hired Wendy for the good of the company as a whole. Also remember that Wendy did nothing wrong, it was Chuck who snuck on to her laptop last season - and Wendy left him because of it! Lara is jealous of something that she herself created, and she is showing her insecurity. Had she allowed Axe to be honest with her, Axe would not have felt the need to start confiding more in Wendy instead of her. But it's clear that Axe worships Lara. Lara knows it and is using it against him.

Taylor is totally ruthless enough are you kidding? did you see that smirk on her face when she realized just how much power Axe handed to her?

What you say about Wendy being good for the company makes sense from a rational point of view, but not from the view of a wife. Lara is on par with Axe in fiercely protecting her own investments. She's been there for him since they were poor, she's been his best confidante and adviser, she knows him better than anyone. He should know that SHE is the one that the company needs, not some super sexy wife of a sniveling prosecutor who almost brought them down. Remember - they had to pack up and go into hiding. She's got to be feeling that there's something else going there, if not an affair, a reliance that's actually a weakness that could undermine him. But more important than that, he lied about it. She's going to be second-guessing everything he says and does. Think how crazy it would make Axe if he had to deal with that much uncertainty.

And the thing about Taylor is that she's encountered every emotional weakness there is and conquered it. But avarice is entirely new for her, which means she doesn't yet know how it can trip her up.

I don't see greed as a motivation for Taylor. Taylor seems to be driven by the analytic challenge of the work.

[Anonymous]

I would like to see Wendy in her dominatrix get up take down Lara as the ultimate power play over Bobby. She would resist at first but would relent and actually enjoy it. I think Damian Lewis would stroke out - he would turn so red with the bulging forehead veins...OK, maybe a bit far fetched, but a guy can dream.

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Anonymous wrote:

I agree in a general sense with your comment however Lara made it very difficult for Axe to be honest with her. Axe re-hired Wendy for the good of the company as a whole. Also remember that Wendy did nothing wrong, it was Chuck who snuck on to her laptop last season - and Wendy left him because of it! Lara is jealous of something that she herself created, and she is showing her insecurity. Had she allowed Axe to be honest with her, Axe would not have felt the need to start confiding more in Wendy instead of her. But it's clear that Axe worships Lara. Lara knows it and is using it against him.

Taylor is totally ruthless enough are you kidding? did you see that smirk on her face when she realized just how much power Axe handed to her?

What you say about Wendy being good for the company makes sense from a rational point of view, but not from the view of a wife. Lara is on par with Axe in fiercely protecting her own investments. She's been there for him since they were poor, she's been his best confidante and adviser, she knows him better than anyone. He should know that SHE is the one that the company needs, not some super sexy wife of a sniveling prosecutor who almost brought them down. Remember - they had to pack up and go into hiding. She's got to be feeling that there's something else going there, if not an affair, a reliance that's actually a weakness that could undermine him. But more important than that, he lied about it. She's going to be second-guessing everything he says and does. Think how crazy it would make Axe if he had to deal with that much uncertainty.

And the thing about Taylor is that she's encountered every emotional weakness there is and conquered it. But avarice is entirely new for her, which means she doesn't yet know how it can trip her up.

I don't see greed as a motivation for Taylor. Taylor seems to be driven by the analytic challenge of the work.

I agree. But she likes the money and that seems to have been a surprise to her.

[Anonymous]

There's an article in the business section of today's WP with details on who they go to to make the show credible and about the supposed real-life rivalry some people say the show is based on. Sorry, no link, I read the actual paper.

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Anonymous wrote:There's an article in the business section of today's WP with details on who they go to to make the show credible and about the supposed real-life rivalry some people say the show is based on. Sorry, no link, I read the actual paper.

Here it is: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/it-is-wall-street-porn-why-wall-street-cant-stop-talking-about-its-favorite-show/2017/05/05/940c43e6-2f90-11e7-8674-437ddb6e813e_story.html?utm_term=.4b8ac2091586

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love the show! Paul Giamatti is great as the U.S. attorney and the actor playing the hedge fund guy Axe is awesome. My only complaint is that I don't think that Malin Ackerman, who plays Axe's wife, is believable as former working-class Irish Catholic girl from Staten Island (isn't she from Sweden?). She is beautiful, but I am just not buying it. Anyway, thoughts?

Actually, I like her. What's not believable is there is no Inwood neighborhood on Staten Island. I wood is in the uppermost portion of manhattan near the Bronx.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On the last episode, spoilers.

Doesn't chuck have two problems. His dad invested his entire trust fund. Not just 8 million. And his wife invested in the short. Isn't he going to be stuck on the sidelines now with the new US attorney taking down his wife? And he is broke himself.

Did Wendy invest in the short because she knew what chuck was doing? Setting up axe.

Why did Bobby care about her investment?

I think the presumption is that the stock will shoot back to where it was prior to the manufactured bacteria scare.

I think Wendy invested because she assumed Axe had it wired like he always did and that her husband was in way over his head. She will be dragged down with Axe because of Chuck. Axe cared about Wendy's investment because he want's to control (or at the very least know about) everything that goes on in his shop.

I really wanted Chuck and his grotesque father to lose but oh well.

No I think its more simple than that. Axe [b]ruined Chuck with this play, but if Wendy gains from itthen Chuck is not entirely ruined - he will see the financial gain she sees in the transaction. Simple.

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I think you're confused about what most likely will happen tonight. Wendy has knowingly put herself in as an accomplice in insider trading. The reason Rhodes Jr. brought up the new EDNY prosecutor was to track all of Axe's bad deeds and catch him in the act of poisoning the product while pushing the market up, then shorting it. Which is what Wendy did too, so Axe, Wags, Taylor and Wendy "should" all go down tonight for insider trading brought by the EDNY. Rhodes Sr. and the lawyer will also go down for insider trading. That leaves Rhodes Jr. standing and the ultimate victor. Yes, he lost his trust fund, but once the news about the isolated taintings become news (as they will most assuredly be tonight by the EDNY prosecutor), then the stock will bounce back. Rhode's Jr. then is the ultimate winner. However, one poster did suggest that perhaps Axe was watching Rhodes Jr. through all of this. If so, then the "house of cards" may be restacked. Either way, things like this always come out so even if Rhodes, Jr. gets a momentary high and puts everyone away on insider trading, it will ultimately come out that he masterminded this whole affair and also engaged in insider trading.

[Anonymous]

I think you're confused about what most likely will happen tonight. Wendy has knowingly put herself in as an accomplice in insider trading. The reason Rhodes Jr. brought up the new EDNY prosecutor was to track all of Axe's bad deeds and catch him in the act of poisoning the product while pushing the market up, then shorting it. Which is what Wendy did too, so Axe, Wags, Taylor and Wendy "should" all go down tonight for insider trading brought by the EDNY. Rhodes Sr. and the lawyer will also go down for insider trading. That leaves Rhodes Jr. standing and the ultimate victor. Yes, he lost his trust fund, but once the news about the isolated taintings become news (as they will most assuredly be tonight by the EDNY prosecutor), then the stock will bounce back. Rhode's Jr. then is the ultimate winner. However, one poster did suggest that perhaps Axe was watching Rhodes Jr. through all of this. If so, then the "house of cards" may be restacked. Either way, things like this always come out so even if Rhodes, Jr. gets a momentary high and puts everyone away on insider trading, it will ultimately come out that he masterminded this whole affair and also engaged in insider trading.

That's an interesting take! A little too predictable to be satisfying, though. I'm thinking Wendy is going to yank Chuck's leash by letting him know how she saved his career and reminding him she could still end it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My observations- Axe has no idea Chuck was behind this because Chuck was smart enough to use a con guy to con a con artist! Between Lara and Ice Juice he will lose his mojo and the company will suffer. Lara is totally unhinged with the whole Wendy re-hire. Her reaction to it was out of control.

I think that Chuck was totally okay blowing his own Trust because its not about the money, its about finally getting Axe. I do think that had Wendy told him that she too had invested he would have called off the whole thing.

Taylor - I love that character! she/it/they/them is very complex and obviously torn between two worlds. One where she can have anything she wants and one where its evil to have all those things she really wants. So which one will she be true to? I also think that she is going to replace Wags - not on the show but will knock him out of that powerful position he has at Axe Cap. Wags is already a hot mess, can't control himself. Taylor is way smarter and more calculated than he is.

Axe felt so strongly that he needed Wendy that he lied to his wife about it. Which means that he knew full well how she'd feel about it, but the need for Wendy was greater than his wife's wishes or maintaining her trust. That's a pretty big deal in a marriage.

Taylor prefers to be called them.

I can't see Taylor taking Wags' place because she's/he's/they're just not ruthless enough. Might get there, but it can't replace the trust Axe has with Wags

I agree in a general sense with your comment however Lara made it very difficult for Axe to be honest with her. Axe re-hired Wendy for the good of the company as a whole. Also remember that Wendy did nothing wrong, it was Chuck who snuck on to her laptop last season - and Wendy left him because of it! Lara is jealous of something that she herself created, and she is showing her insecurity. Had she allowed Axe to be honest with her, Axe would not have felt the need to start confiding more in Wendy instead of her. But it's clear that Axe worships Lara. Lara knows it and is using it against him.

Taylor is totally ruthless enough are you kidding? did you see that smirk on her face when she realized just how much power Axe handed to her?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On the last episode, spoilers.

Doesn't chuck have two problems. His dad invested his entire trust fund. Not just 8 million. And his wife invested in the short. Isn't he going to be stuck on the sidelines now with the new US attorney taking down his wife? And he is broke himself.

Did Wendy invest in the short because she knew what chuck was doing? Setting up axe.

Why did Bobby care about her investment?

I think the presumption is that the stock will shoot back to where it was prior to the manufactured bacteria scare.

I think Wendy invested because she assumed Axe had it wired like he always did and that her husband was in way over his head. She will be dragged down with Axe because of Chuck. Axe cared about Wendy's investment because he want's to control (or at the very least know about) everything that goes on in his shop.

I really wanted Chuck and his grotesque father to lose but oh well.

No I think its more simple than that. Axe [b]ruined Chuck with this play, but if Wendy gains from itthen Chuck is not entirely ruined - he will see the financial gain she sees in the transaction. Simple.

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I think you're confused about what most likely will happen tonight. Wendy has knowingly put herself in as an accomplice in insider trading. The reason Rhodes Jr. brought up the new EDNY prosecutor was to track all of Axe's bad deeds and catch him in the act of poisoning the product while pushing the market up, then shorting it. Which is what Wendy did too, so Axe, Wags, Taylor and Wendy "should" all go down tonight for insider trading brought by the EDNY. Rhodes Sr. and the lawyer will also go down for insider trading. That leaves Rhodes Jr. standing and the ultimate victor. Yes, he lost his trust fund, but once the news about the isolated taintings become news (as they will most assuredly be tonight by the EDNY prosecutor), then the stock will bounce back. Rhode's Jr. then is the ultimate winner. However, one poster did suggest that perhaps Axe was watching Rhodes Jr. through all of this. If so, then the "house of cards" may be restacked. Either way, things like this always come out so even if Rhodes, Jr. gets a momentary high and puts everyone away on insider trading, it will ultimately come out that he masterminded this whole affair and also engaged in insider trading.

No I'm not confused. You failed to read the thread. I was answering a SPECIFIC question. Go back and read it again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On the last episode, spoilers.

Doesn't chuck have two problems. His dad invested his entire trust fund. Not just 8 million. And his wife invested in the short. Isn't he going to be stuck on the sidelines now with the new US attorney taking down his wife? And he is broke himself.

Did Wendy invest in the short because she knew what chuck was doing? Setting up axe.

Why did Bobby care about her investment?

I think the presumption is that the stock will shoot back to where it was prior to the manufactured bacteria scare.

I think Wendy invested because she assumed Axe had it wired like he always did and that her husband was in way over his head. She will be dragged down with Axe because of Chuck. Axe cared about Wendy's investment because he want's to control (or at the very least know about) everything that goes on in his shop.

I really wanted Chuck and his grotesque father to lose but oh well.

No I think its more simple than that. Axe [b]ruined Chuck with this play, but if Wendy gains from itthen Chuck is not entirely ruined - he will see the financial gain she sees in the transaction. Simple.

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I think you're confused about what most likely will happen tonight. Wendy has knowingly put herself in as an accomplice in insider trading. The reason Rhodes Jr. brought up the new EDNY prosecutor was to track all of Axe's bad deeds and catch him in the act of poisoning the product while pushing the market up, then shorting it. Which is what Wendy did too, so Axe, Wags, Taylor and Wendy "should" all go down tonight for insider trading brought by the EDNY. Rhodes Sr. and the lawyer will also go down for insider trading. That leaves Rhodes Jr. standing and the ultimate victor. Yes, he lost his trust fund, but once the news about the isolated taintings become news (as they will most assuredly be tonight by the EDNY prosecutor), then the stock will bounce back. Rhode's Jr. then is the ultimate winner. However, one poster did suggest that perhaps Axe was watching Rhodes Jr. through all of this. If so, then the "house of cards" may be restacked. Either way, things like this always come out so even if Rhodes, Jr. gets a momentary high and puts everyone away on insider trading, it will ultimately come out that he masterminded this whole affair and also engaged in insider trading.

No I'm not confused. You failed to read the thread. I was answering a SPECIFIC question. Go back and read it again.

IT's a TV SHOW! On in 29 minutes. Relax!

[Anonymous]

Loved the finale. Taylor is a boss......what a great character and actress. The scene in jail with axe and chuck was powerful.....two outstanding actors. Does axe have a thing for wendy? Lara was completely unsupportive. I can't wait until next season!