Insanity in Germany

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jsteele wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I mean...pretty much. I studied Islamic history in HS, there were a lot of good 'reasons' back THEN for the ways of life prescribed in the hadith--such as the fact that widows had no protection so it was an act of compassion for men to take on many wives. In much the same way, some of the old testament proscriptions against pork. The difference is--abstaining from pork does not do damage today. Treating women HORRIBLY, killing people (salman Rushdie--fatwa) who question the hadith does. Honestly, from Saudi Arabia to honor killing in western transplant communities... something's gotta give.

Stop repeating propaganda. There is nothing, literally nothing in the Quranic rules on polygamy that casts polygamy as an act of mercy to widows, or encourages marriage to second wives who are widows.

The poster to whom you are replying didn't even mention the Quran. But, you really showed that straw man you are debating.

I'm not debating anything, just correcting someone with little knowledge. The hadith has no guidance on marrying widows as second wives, either. This is a trope invented and repeated often by Islam's evangelists. It has no scriptural basis, not in the Quran, not in the hadith.

And the poster clearly means the Quran when she says the hadith - Rushdie wasn't threatened for questioning the hadith, you know.

I question the quality of your Islamic Studies/Islamic Sciences if today, you are unable to see that governments are redefining a religion to control people. The history of Islamic Science and Islamic civilization is far different than we see today. You should really be able to see that if you have studied it but, perhaps Political Islam wasn't part of your curriculum either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean...pretty much. I studied Islamic history in HS, there were a lot of good 'reasons' back THEN for the ways of life prescribed in the hadith--such as the fact that widows had no protection so it was an act of compassion for men to take on many wives. In much the same way, some of the old testament proscriptions against pork. The difference is--abstaining from pork does not do damage today. Treating women HORRIBLY, killing people (salman Rushdie--fatwa) who question the hadith does. Honestly, from Saudi Arabia to honor killing in western transplant communities... something's gotta give.

Stop repeating propaganda. There is nothing, literally nothing in the Quranic rules on polygamy that casts polygamy as an act of mercy to widows, or encourages marriage to second wives who are widows.

The poster to whom you are replying didn't even mention the Quran. But, you really showed that straw man you are debating.

I'm not debating anything, just correcting someone with little knowledge. The hadith has no guidance on marrying widows as second wives, either. This is a trope invented and repeated often by Islam's evangelists. It has no scriptural basis, not in the Quran, not in the hadith.

And the poster clearly means the Quran when she says the hadith - Rushdie wasn't threatened for questioning the hadith, you know.

I question the quality of your Islamic Studies/Islamic Sciences if today, you are unable to see that governments are redefining a religion to control people. The history of Islamic Science and Islamic civilization is far different than we see today. You should really be able to see that if you have studied it but, perhaps Political Islam wasn't part of your curriculum either.

I didn't talk about any of this, have at it if you like. I am simply pointing out the mistake in the first post - polygamy scripturally is not about providing protection for widows, and marrying widows as second wives is not prescribed by either hadith or Quran. As for everything else, have it your way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry, I have a hard time believing this. There's either some important information missing, or it's BS.

I believe it but I wouldn't have if I hadn't heard what the mayor of Cologne had said after the attacks and also if I hadn't heard about Sweden and Germany covering up the sexual attacks. Apparently there were numerous attacks over the Summer in Sweden and they kept it quiet. Many of the Middle Eastern countries are anti-women and have laws based on their religion that women must wear hijab, must sit behind a curtain at funerals, can't drive, etc... Separate AND unequal. When it comes to Western women - forget it - they are deemed as "loose" and therefore they seem to think it is okay to rape and sexually assault them. The Persians that came 30 years ago assimilated quickly and effortlessly and I have many friends that are Persian and they left this culture purposely because they opposed it. I fear we won't be able to assimilate the migrants and refugees though.

There's only one Middle Eastern country where women can't drive - Saudi Arabia - and it is ironically the one with which your government is at its cuddliest, friendliest, kiss-assiest terms.

They have the most oil. When the western n ations suck out all teir oil, it is going to be interesting.....