Bright but not gifted children essentially being ignored?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. The teacher has agreed that my daughter needs to be in another group and is going to provide me with the word lists she missed.

You all can advocate for your kids (or not) however you like. I'm not going to just blindly assume a 24 year is paying super close attention to the individual needs of all 25 kids in the class.

Congratulations, you won the Battle of the Second-Grade Word Lists. I just hope that your daughter never encounters any truly serious problems at school, because you have probably burned through everybody's good will and then some.

Yup, uh-huh. 100%.

Everybody who? Its ONE teacher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. The teacher has agreed that my daughter needs to be in another group and is going to provide me with the word lists she missed.

You all can advocate for your kids (or not) however you like. I'm not going to just blindly assume a 24 year is paying super close attention to the individual needs of all 25 kids in the class.

Congratulations, you won the Battle of the Second-Grade Word Lists. I just hope that your daughter never encounters any truly serious problems at school, because you have probably burned through everybody's good will and then some.

Yup, uh-huh. 100%.

Everybody who? Its ONE teacher.

I'm guessing that, like most people in a workplace, the teacher talks to her co-workers and supervisors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. The teacher has agreed that my daughter needs to be in another group and is going to provide me with the word lists she missed.

You all can advocate for your kids (or not) however you like. I'm not going to just blindly assume a 24 year is paying super close attention to the individual needs of all 25 kids in the class.

Congratulations, you won the Battle of the Second-Grade Word Lists. I just hope that your daughter never encounters any truly serious problems at school, because you have probably burned through everybody's good will and then some.

Yup, uh-huh. 100%.

Everybody who? Its ONE teacher.

I'm guessing that, like most people in a workplace, the teacher talks to her co-workers and supervisors.

Okaaay, so...? Like I said, my email to her did not say anything from this forum. It politely asked if my child might be able to move to the next word study group. She agreed. End of story. The rest of the drama only unfolded here. I don't know who you are lady, but why do YOU care so much about my DD's word study. At least I have the excuse of being her mother!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. The teacher has agreed that my daughter needs to be in another group and is going to provide me with the word lists she missed.

You all can advocate for your kids (or not) however you like. I'm not going to just blindly assume a 24 year is paying super close attention to the individual needs of all 25 kids in the class.

Now it's just too bad that you are not in FCPS-- that would be your AAP golden ticket -- mom of 6th and 8th grade AAP kids (one of whom is and always has been a terrible speller) when is absolutely certain that 2nd grade word study groups is 100% not the hill OP should have chosen to die on

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, you are WAY to fixated on the other kids in the class. How tye flying F do you know what their grades are or how they are performing, testing on their DRAs, or their strengtys and weaknesses?

Your only questions shoukd be about your daughter. Those other kids in her group are irrelevant to the discussion.

OP again. What else do I have to go on? The kids who were in my daughter's word study group last year are in a different, more difficult word study group this year. Two of the girls in my daughter's word study group this year go see the reading specialist and have private tutors. Again, I didn't sleuth this information out, its widely known.

So either my daughter is slipping down in her ability (which I should have been made aware of and was not) OR my daughter is in the wrong group (and is possibly being used to bolster up these other kids, which is NOT her job) and this is a problem for a different reason. I simply want to know which of the above is the case. And no one will tell me.

1. How do you know the kids in your kid's word study group, "are so far below grade level that they need excessive amounts of help and STILL do far worse than [your] daughter on graded assignments!?

2. How do you know 2 kids in the group go to the reading specialist?

3. How do you know 2 kids in the group have private tutors and for what?

4. How is the things in 2 and 3 "widely known" meaning how many people do you personally know that know this and where did they hear it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, you are WAY to fixated on the other kids in the class. How tye flying F do you know what their grades are or how they are performing, testing on their DRAs, or their strengtys and weaknesses?

Your only questions shoukd be about your daughter. Those other kids in her group are irrelevant to the discussion.

OP again. What else do I have to go on? The kids who were in my daughter's word study group last year are in a different, more difficult word study group this year. Two of the girls in my daughter's word study group this year go see the reading specialist and have private tutors. Again, I didn't sleuth this information out, its widely known.

So either my daughter is slipping down in her ability (which I should have been made aware of and was not) OR my daughter is in the wrong group (and is possibly being used to bolster up these other kids, which is NOT her job) and this is a problem for a different reason. I simply want to know which of the above is the case. And no one will tell me.

1. How do you know the kids in your kid's word study group, "are so far below grade level that they need excessive amounts of help and STILL do far worse than [your] daughter on graded assignments!?

2. How do you know 2 kids in the group go to the reading specialist?

3. How do you know 2 kids in the group have private tutors and for what?

4. How is the things in 2 and 3 "widely known" meaning how many people do you personally know that know this and where did they hear it?

The answer to all of the above is their moms openly discuss it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. The teacher has agreed that my daughter needs to be in another group and is going to provide me with the word lists she missed.

You all can advocate for your kids (or not) however you like. I'm not going to just blindly assume a 24 year is paying super close attention to the individual needs of all 25 kids in the class.

Now it's just too bad that you are not in FCPS-- that would be your AAP golden ticket -- mom of 6th and 8th grade AAP kids (one of whom is and always has been a terrible speller) when is absolutely certain that 2nd grade word study groups is 100% not the hill OP should have chosen to die on

Again, nobody died on any hill. You can all relax now.

[Anonymous]

The OP changes her stories multiple times and I think that is why posters are so frustrated with her. In the original post, she mentioned reading and word study group. This changed into she is fine with the reading group. She said she got push back from the teacher. In the end, the teacher agreed to move her DD after one polite email request. I am not sure why the original post was so whiny. It sounds like other than the fact that teacher did not put your daughter in the "correct" work study group initially, everything was fine. Maybe the bright kids are not ignored.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The OP changes her stories multiple times and I think that is why posters are so frustrated with her. In the original post, she mentioned reading and word study group. This changed into she is fine with the reading group. She said she got push back from the teacher. In the end, the teacher agreed to move her DD after one polite email request. I am not sure why the original post was so whiny. It sounds like other than the fact that teacher did not put your daughter in the "correct" work study group initially, everything was fine. Maybe the bright kids are not ignored.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The OP changes her stories multiple times and I think that is why posters are so frustrated with her. In the original post, she mentioned reading and word study group. This changed into she is fine with the reading group. She said she got push back from the teacher. In the end, the teacher agreed to move her DD after one polite email request. I am not sure why the original post was so whiny. It sounds like other than the fact that teacher did not put your daughter in the "correct" work study group initially, everything was fine. Maybe the bright kids are not ignored.

Its quite a stretch to say "bright kids are ignored" when the problem is just one child being in the wrong spelling group.

[Anonymous]

The op (the post) really annoyed me. I don't think the poster is wrong, per se, but she reacts differently than me, which makes me question my parenting. It makes me feel defensive. I wonder if that is what is going on with this thread.

[Anonymous]

I do not believe she got what she wanted. I think she just wrote that because she was getting backlash on here and wanted to close it down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

OP here. I actually don't believe her reading and word study groups are her academic peers. There are only 3 other kids in her group and I know for a fact that two of them have private tutors and get pulled out for reading simply to scrape by. The same homework my DD sails through alone, these girls complete with a 1:1 private tutor. One girl was almost held back last year until her parents threw a fit and hired the summer tutor. These are NOT my daughters academic peers.

I did speak to the teacher (and last year's teacher too.) She claims there is some assessment (but not related to previous word study grades) that determines the level. I have yet to be told how the assessment works. Both teachers seem unwilling to deviate from what this all-knowing assessment tells them. (Yet this assessment is brief enough that they solo administer it individually to 25 kids!)

OP, your attitude may or may not be justified. But it is certainly not helpful. If you want to help your daughter, you have to work with the teachers. It sounds to me like you're marching in with the attitude that the teachers who are fools who don't know what they're doing, and you know better. This attitude will not work in your favor.

Pp your words are not helpful. OP certainly knows Her daugher better than anyone else. Teachers sometimes want to fool parents as if we are not a aware of what's going on in the classroom.

Also, you know far too much about the personal business of other students in the class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The op (the post) really annoyed me. I don't think the poster is wrong, per se, but she reacts differently than me, which makes me question my parenting. It makes me feel defensive. I wonder if that is what is going on with this thread.

Are you the OP? No, she did not make me question my parenting in the least.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I do not believe she got what she wanted. I think she just wrote that because she was getting backlash on here and wanted to close it down.

agreed