I don't know, pp, the person you're replying to seems pretty convinced that libertarians could never be corrupt. Guess they're just morally superior to the rest of us. |
It's not "Nevada land" - the state of Nevada does not own it, and Bundy's claim that he was "trying to pay the state of Nevada but they wouldn't take his money" is bogus. Nevada does not lease the land and has nothing to do with the grazing permit. Nevada also has no legal claim on the land, and this is specifically referenced in the Nevada State Constitution. As for your comments about "socialism" - every time you throw that term around disparagingly it tells the world you don't know what "democratic socialism" i.e. Bernie Sanders means. Here's a hint - think Sweden (which has plenty of capitalism, private enterprise and entrepreneurs, luxury goods, multimillionaire magnates, and some of the highest living standards in the world) - if you're thinking of Maoist China or Soviet Russia you are totally on the wrong track. |
Jump forward from that 2011 story of yours to a year later, in 2012... Turned out that Gibson had been making a lot of fake claims about supposed government abuse and how this "unjust" investigation was supposedly wasting millions of dollars in taxpayer dollars for nothing. They ultimately admitted their wrongdoing and violations of the Lacey Act and paid out hundreds of thousands of dollars in settlement... http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/242357-gibson-guitar-agrees-to-pay-300000-to-settle-lacey-act-violations Oooops. Guess you picked a really bad example of so-called government abuse there. |
Law says he has to pay, he should pay. Now can we deport I,leaks, given they are breaking the law, rather than give them benefits for it? |
They paid to avoid expensive court costs. I kinda mentioned that. They get their rosewood in the same way Taylor and Martin get theirs. Where are the raids on Taylor and Martin? Only Gibson's CEO is a republican. |
Semantics. Sanders is a socialist. |
That's illegals. |
Totally off topic but on 66 yesterday I saw a prius with a Ben Carson bumper sticker. Just struck me as such an off combo on the venn diagram of likely voters. |
It was likely a far-right Republican who wants to drive alone in the HOV lanes and couldn't care less about the environment. |
Sorry, but I'm seeing nothing but manufactured FOX BS on your end. A.) Gibson ADMITTED wrongdoing and noncompliance to the Department of Justice. B.) Gibson's CEO stated it was NOT politically motivated. http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052970203554104576655273915372748
C.) The characterization of Gibson's CEO as a "Republican" seems a bit shaky given he has frequently and routinely contributed to Democrats, like Tennessee Congressman Jim Cooper. |
That's actually untrue. CF Martin does not buy Madagascar Rosewood or ebony. I guess you figured that you could just say it and no one would question what you wrote. |
I'm very familiar with thus case and the CEOs trust me, what the press says and what happened is not congruent. Everyone knows he was singled out, targeted, and hung out to dry. |
Well, if "everyone" knows it, that settles it. Certainly, we should trust "everyone" rather than what we read in the press. BTW, I am also very familiar with the case. I visited the Memphis plant a few days before it was raided. I own two Gibson guitars and followed the case very closely. The violations discovered in the second round of raids were clearly justified by the false paperwork used to import the wood. It turned out that the violations were not that severe and that the Indian government probably didn't care in the first place. That is probably why the case was settled favorably to Gibson. Henry Juszkiewicz made a huge mistake by running to the right-wingers and acting like a victim of an over-zealous government. He alienated guitar players who care about the environment. In contrast, companies like Taylor and Martin who are much more forward thinking. That's why I bought a Taylor at that time. |
Trust you? Are you saying that you are friends with Christian Martin? |
I wish we could get a neuropsych eval for him. He does remind me of my grandparents and dad when they started to develop dementia. Some of the things he says are well thought out and make sense and other things he says are so far out there I can't imagine he's in his right mind. Plus his affect is so flat most of the time. Something is off. |