Landlord texting me after 11pm at night

[Anonymous]

I am a millennial and send and receive texts at all hours dunno wtf these douches are talking about

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous]I am a millennial and send and receive texts at all hours dunno wtf these douches are talking about


I'm not a millenial but a much older lawyer and also receive emails and texts at all hours day and night. That's how business is done now. And, yes, all those emails go right over to client's or other lawyer's or friends phones so it's the same as the landlord leaving a message. Now a PHONE CALL on a landline after ll:00 would be wrong . . .

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here- he's brought his dog with him for a visit 3 times since January, so not a lot at all. Normally he will just leave her at home but there has been those 3 times where he's brought her along just so she's not left at home all day by himself. He is not living with him and his dog certainly isn't staying over. She's never been tied up outside or left to bark all day like the letter she got apparently stated. To the person talking about leaving the dog in her box in the "heat", he was here last Sunday with her and it was 72 degrees out so not hot at all. She's a really good dog and just chills in her dog box but the one rim last Sunday that she started to bark was when a UPS truck drove by. He immediately went out to have her stop and that was that.

Regarding my landlord texting me late, clearly it's 50/50 on whether people agree with me or not. I find it unprofessional to text me that late and in multiple texts, not just one. It's not just one long text being broken up into three....it's multiple texts that went like this....

"Hey ladies we got a fine in the mail claiming a dog was tied up and barking all day."
"Do either of you know what this is about?"
"Don't I need to fight it?"

Just not necessary at all. I took a previous PPs advice and texted her asking for a copy of the bylaws so I can know what those are. I also asked to see the fine/letter she got in the mail and she completely ignored that request and just said "I'll email you a copy of the bylaws". I'm going to assume she was overreacting on the fine and just wanted to see what was up regarding a dog around.

To the PPs questioning why I'm calling her crazy, I've lived here for 3 years now and I'm sorry but I think texting us at 11:30 at night saying "I want to see what's going on in the house, I'll be by tomorrow morning to check it out and I'll let myself in" is crazy. Because 1, she's not doing it the legal way and giving us 24 hours and 2, her husband had JUST been here a week prior fixing something and clearly could see that everything was fine in our house. Also, she has randomly texted us asking if we have hung curtains attached to the crown molding or asking us if we are using the garbage disposal correctly because "just a reminder, it's only a year old". Sorry but to me, it's all craziness.

Sorry if this has been answered already - but what is a "dog box"? Do you mean a crate?

I think perhaps if your complex doesn't allow dogs, then you aren't really helping your case by saying that the dog was locked up in a crate outside while your boyfriend was visiting. You still had a dog on the premises, and the dog was still causing a disturbance. Not a long one, not a very unreasonable one - but not the sort of thing that folks living in a complex that doesn't allow dogs would want to experience.

(As an animal lover, the idea of a dog being out in a crate in a truck in 72 degree weather - well, frankly I'd evict you over that.)


I don't think texting you at 11 pm constitutes "crazy." It may not be hours you prefer, and it's not a message you like, but it hardly constitutes "crazy." It sounds like this is a private individual renting out one unit, not a professional management company - so she's probably reaching out to you when she gets any free time, not during normal business hours.

And honestly, you can try passive aggressively not responding until whenever. But I'd be worried about making things worse.

Good luck resolving this. Maybe it's time to find a new place to live?

Op here- dogs are allowed in our neighborhood, my landlord has it as "dogs considered" in our lease but decided she didn't want us owning one. So no, it wasn't an issue that we had a dog in my neighborhood as they are allowed.

Someone complained about your doggy guest. Why do you think that someone complained?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here- he's brought his dog with him for a visit 3 times since January, so not a lot at all. Normally he will just leave her at home but there has been those 3 times where he's brought her along just so she's not left at home all day by himself. He is not living with him and his dog certainly isn't staying over. She's never been tied up outside or left to bark all day like the letter she got apparently stated. To the person talking about leaving the dog in her box in the "heat", he was here last Sunday with her and it was 72 degrees out so not hot at all. She's a really good dog and just chills in her dog box but the one rim last Sunday that she started to bark was when a UPS truck drove by. He immediately went out to have her stop and that was that.

Regarding my landlord texting me late, clearly it's 50/50 on whether people agree with me or not. I find it unprofessional to text me that late and in multiple texts, not just one. It's not just one long text being broken up into three....it's multiple texts that went like this....

"Hey ladies we got a fine in the mail claiming a dog was tied up and barking all day."
"Do either of you know what this is about?"
"Don't I need to fight it?"

Just not necessary at all. I took a previous PPs advice and texted her asking for a copy of the bylaws so I can know what those are. I also asked to see the fine/letter she got in the mail and she completely ignored that request and just said "I'll email you a copy of the bylaws". I'm going to assume she was overreacting on the fine and just wanted to see what was up regarding a dog around.

To the PPs questioning why I'm calling her crazy, I've lived here for 3 years now and I'm sorry but I think texting us at 11:30 at night saying "I want to see what's going on in the house, I'll be by tomorrow morning to check it out and I'll let myself in" is crazy. Because 1, she's not doing it the legal way and giving us 24 hours and 2, her husband had JUST been here a week prior fixing something and clearly could see that everything was fine in our house. Also, she has randomly texted us asking if we have hung curtains attached to the crown molding or asking us if we are using the garbage disposal correctly because "just a reminder, it's only a year old". Sorry but to me, it's all craziness.

Sorry if this has been answered already - but what is a "dog box"? Do you mean a crate?

I think perhaps if your complex doesn't allow dogs, then you aren't really helping your case by saying that the dog was locked up in a crate outside while your boyfriend was visiting. You still had a dog on the premises, and the dog was still causing a disturbance. Not a long one, not a very unreasonable one - but not the sort of thing that folks living in a complex that doesn't allow dogs would want to experience.

(As an animal lover, the idea of a dog being out in a crate in a truck in 72 degree weather - well, frankly I'd evict you over that.)


I don't think texting you at 11 pm constitutes "crazy." It may not be hours you prefer, and it's not a message you like, but it hardly constitutes "crazy." It sounds like this is a private individual renting out one unit, not a professional management company - so she's probably reaching out to you when she gets any free time, not during normal business hours.

And honestly, you can try passive aggressively not responding until whenever. But I'd be worried about making things worse.

Good luck resolving this. Maybe it's time to find a new place to live?

Op here- dogs are allowed in our neighborhood, my landlord has it as "dogs considered" in our lease but decided she didn't want us owning one. So no, it wasn't an issue that we had a dog in my neighborhood as they are allowed.

Someone complained about your doggy guest. Why do you think that someone complained?

Op here- I posted a few pages ago that I'm pretty sure it was our neighbor next door who complained because of the issues we've had with them. My roommate and I have had to file multiple noise complaints against them in the last 3 months due to the excessive noise coming from their unit late at night/early morning (before 5am) as well as their 20 something year old son swearing and yelling on his phone in the backyard at 2am. So I'm pretty sure it was them who complained as a "payback".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here- he's brought his dog with him for a visit 3 times since January, so not a lot at all. Normally he will just leave her at home but there has been those 3 times where he's brought her along just so she's not left at home all day by himself. He is not living with him and his dog certainly isn't staying over. She's never been tied up outside or left to bark all day like the letter she got apparently stated. To the person talking about leaving the dog in her box in the "heat", he was here last Sunday with her and it was 72 degrees out so not hot at all. She's a really good dog and just chills in her dog box but the one rim last Sunday that she started to bark was when a UPS truck drove by. He immediately went out to have her stop and that was that.

Regarding my landlord texting me late, clearly it's 50/50 on whether people agree with me or not. I find it unprofessional to text me that late and in multiple texts, not just one. It's not just one long text being broken up into three....it's multiple texts that went like this....

"Hey ladies we got a fine in the mail claiming a dog was tied up and barking all day."
"Do either of you know what this is about?"
"Don't I need to fight it?"

Just not necessary at all. I took a previous PPs advice and texted her asking for a copy of the bylaws so I can know what those are. I also asked to see the fine/letter she got in the mail and she completely ignored that request and just said "I'll email you a copy of the bylaws". I'm going to assume she was overreacting on the fine and just wanted to see what was up regarding a dog around.

To the PPs questioning why I'm calling her crazy, I've lived here for 3 years now and I'm sorry but I think texting us at 11:30 at night saying "I want to see what's going on in the house, I'll be by tomorrow morning to check it out and I'll let myself in" is crazy. Because 1, she's not doing it the legal way and giving us 24 hours and 2, her husband had JUST been here a week prior fixing something and clearly could see that everything was fine in our house. Also, she has randomly texted us asking if we have hung curtains attached to the crown molding or asking us if we are using the garbage disposal correctly because "just a reminder, it's only a year old". Sorry but to me, it's all craziness.

Sorry if this has been answered already - but what is a "dog box"? Do you mean a crate?

I think perhaps if your complex doesn't allow dogs, then you aren't really helping your case by saying that the dog was locked up in a crate outside while your boyfriend was visiting. You still had a dog on the premises, and the dog was still causing a disturbance. Not a long one, not a very unreasonable one - but not the sort of thing that folks living in a complex that doesn't allow dogs would want to experience.

(As an animal lover, the idea of a dog being out in a crate in a truck in 72 degree weather - well, frankly I'd evict you over that.)


I don't think texting you at 11 pm constitutes "crazy." It may not be hours you prefer, and it's not a message you like, but it hardly constitutes "crazy." It sounds like this is a private individual renting out one unit, not a professional management company - so she's probably reaching out to you when she gets any free time, not during normal business hours.

And honestly, you can try passive aggressively not responding until whenever. But I'd be worried about making things worse.

Good luck resolving this. Maybe it's time to find a new place to live?

Op here- dogs are allowed in our neighborhood, my landlord has it as "dogs considered" in our lease but decided she didn't want us owning one. So no, it wasn't an issue that we had a dog in my neighborhood as they are allowed.

Someone complained about your doggy guest. Why do you think that someone complained?

Op here- I posted a few pages ago that I'm pretty sure it was our neighbor next door who complained because of the issues we've had with them. My roommate and I have had to file multiple noise complaints against them in the last 3 months due to the excessive noise coming from their unit late at night/early morning (before 5am) as well as their 20 something year old son swearing and yelling on his phone in the backyard at 2am. So I'm pretty sure it was them who complained as a "payback".

yeah, that could be, it happens that people retaliate.

But then again, people who have lots of complaints lodged against them usually don't want to invite any kind of additional attention and certainly don't want anyone coming over to investigate. It just leaves them open for more problems.

I gather from your posts that your bf does this often. The dog barks more than you think and it's annoying. Coupled that with dog lovers/owners who feel it's unfair to keep the dog in a crate outside or it's unsightly and the complainer is probably someone you wouldn't even expect.

The whole scenario is bad - far worse than getting a text at 11 pm - so stop doing it. Your bf doesn't need to bring his dog over.

As far as getting a text at 11pm- you don't really care about the time, you just care about the fact that she is saying you are doing something wrong. if she texted you at 1 1pm to tell you something like the hot water needs to be shut off the next day for a little bit you wouldn't have cared.

Lastly, your landlord isn't a "professional" in the capacity of being landlord. She is just a person renting out her property. So the "unprofessional" just sounds trite and silly when you complain about it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a landlord and don't have time to communicate during business hours. (Of course if it's an emergency like water pipe or no ac I will)

I send email around 10-11pm. If I don't get a response in 24 hours I will text or call.

Not sure why people think that textual communications have a certain time period, I thought that texting / email was meant for any hours so that the recipient could respond at a convenient time.

Nope. A text will ping and make a loud noise, similar to a call.

The general protocol is not to text at an hour when you wouldnt call. Email is fine afterhours though

I guess an email would also wake the idiots who don't silent their phones at night

Actually emails generally don't make noise. At least mine don't. Texts do, of course- and generally seem much more urgent.

Do you think your phone just decides for you which kinds of messages get which notification sounds ... ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a landlord and don't have time to communicate during business hours. (Of course if it's an emergency like water pipe or no ac I will)

I send email around 10-11pm. If I don't get a response in 24 hours I will text or call.

Not sure why people think that textual communications have a certain time period, I thought that texting / email was meant for any hours so that the recipient could respond at a convenient time.

Nope. A text will ping and make a loud noise, similar to a call.

The general protocol is not to text at an hour when you wouldnt call. Email is fine afterhours though

I guess an email would also wake the idiots who don't silent their phones at night

Actually emails generally don't make noise. At least mine don't. Texts do, of course- and generally seem much more urgent.

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Turn off your notifications. Problem solved.
Do you think your phone just decides for you which kinds of messages get which notification sounds ... ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just ignore her until business hours. Just because someone texts you it doesn't mean you have to reply right away.

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[Anonymous]

Op I have been a landlord. Your landlord does sound a bit off.

It's not Ok to just say, "I'm going to let myself in tomorrow to check out the house". Your lease should address notice periods and your right to the quiet enjoyment of the rented premises.

I always used email but I'm older. If she's young, she may be from the texting generation. I think it's OK for her to text you whenever. You don't have to answer her until business hours.

If you are not allowed to own/live with a dog, and you don't, and you didn't leave one tethered, then this whole question about the dog is moot.

People get weird in landlord/tenant relationships. I had a tenant who seemed perfectly intelligent bug me because her cable TV didn't work (uh, did you contact the cable co? No? I'd start there.) and another who insisted that I remove my washer/dryer so she could use her own. Then a month before she moved out she SOLD her own and insisted that I come by and immediately re-install the old one! Which I am perfectly willing to do but can't do "immediately". She also complained about having to wait to get her deposit back for the 30 days that were clearly specified in the lease. Also complained when we terminated the lease in compliance with the terms of the lease.

Anyway just saying. The landlord-tenant relationship is often comprised of people who don't seem to know how to behave professionally. It sucks but just put everything in writing, stick to the terms of your lease, and don't get emotional. That's my advice.

[Anonymous]

Good grief. The landlord needs to get back to the HOA about the complaint. Let her check out her property to verify that there is no nuisance animal living there.

The landlord is not the one who had a barking dog outside and she is not the one who repeatedly called in noise violations on the neighbors. It is possible that some quiet, unknown neighbor finally just blew a fuse and issued a formal complaint because they are sick of all of the racket happening in/around the building.

[Anonymous]

OP, does your boyfriend hunt bobcats?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, does your boyfriend hunt bobcats?

That is so wrong, but funny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, does your boyfriend hunt bobcats?

I actually thought the same thing over the weekend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good grief. The landlord needs to get back to the HOA about the complaint. Let her check out her property to verify that there is no nuisance animal living there.

The landlord is not the one who had a barking dog outside and she is not the one who repeatedly called in noise violations on the neighbors. It is possible that some quiet, unknown neighbor finally just blew a fuse and issued a formal complaint because they are sick of all of the racket happening in/around the building.

Op here- actually our landlord was the one who issues all the complaints for us. We complained to her and she reached out to the HOA on multiple occasions to put in the complaints for us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good grief. The landlord needs to get back to the HOA about the complaint. Let her check out her property to verify that there is no nuisance animal living there.

The landlord is not the one who had a barking dog outside and she is not the one who repeatedly called in noise violations on the neighbors. It is possible that some quiet, unknown neighbor finally just blew a fuse and issued a formal complaint because they are sick of all of the racket happening in/around the building.

Op here- actually our landlord was the one who issues all the complaints for us. We complained to her and she reached out to the HOA on multiple occasions to put in the complaints for us.

Al the more reason you should not be pissy about her texting you at 11 pm to find out about a complaint coming the other way. Let me guess, you texted her about the noise issues with your neighbor?