Harvard, Princeton or Yale?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:1. this is a ridiculous thread, in large part because getting into these schools has become essentially a lottery, and there are far more than 3 excellent schools in this country, so boiling it down constantly to these 3 is ridiculous and narrow-minded.

2. princeton is exclusionary and elitist to the point of being almost offensive. harvard's undergrad education is not worth it (too much grade inflation, too many classes taught by TAs). if i had to chose, i'd chose yale (despite the fact that new haven sucks). however, i chose to not apply to any of those colleges (applied to georgetown sfs and uchicago early, got into both and chose georgetown sfs).

You accurately describe Princeton a century ago - today not at all. How big of you to not even apply to any of these schools and yet to profess so much knowledge about them.

And how much do you know about Princeton? I have dozens of friends who went to those schools (my high school is essentially a feeder school to Ivy league and other top schools). It was very clear to all of us that Princeton expends the least effort of basically any other school in America to try to truly become an inclusive institution.

Well, I went there and am still actively involved. For example, I attended an event with the university President a few months ago where 80% of the talk was about financial and other efforts to creat socioeconomic diversity. I think one could even argue that this laudable goal is becoming too much of a focus, but maybe they rightly feel that they have to go above and beyond because of people like you who have very outdated views of Princeton.

Great, so maybe in recent years they've changed their tone. I attended an event at my high school in '05 where a Princeton admissions officer explicitly said that legacy kids and kids whose families donate a lot of money get a leg-up in admissions. The tone was noticeably different from that of the other admissions officers there (from Harvard and Amherst, I believe). That mentality was borne out in the experiences of the kids I know who went there.

[Anonymous]

Exactly. Anyone would be privileged to go to any of them. The nowhere sbillet jelly state u alums are desperate to prove themselves.. I know, I know, you went to UMd.. And your program was better than Harvard.


Quote=Anonymous]All three are terrific schools. If you are really bright, have a sense of purpose and go after what you want in life, they can equally give you what you need. If you are, however, the type that allows the impressions of others (ill-informed reputation, antiquated facts, prejudices) to dominate your view of things, then they are equally useless. They are far more similar than they are different.

[Anonymous]

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Exactly. Anyone would be privileged to go to any of them. The nowhere sbillet jelly state u alums are desperate to prove themselves.. I know, I know, you went to UMd.. And your program was better than Harvard.


Quote=Anonymous]All three are terrific schools. If you are really bright, have a sense of purpose and go after what you want in life, they can equally give you what you need. If you are, however, the type that allows the impressions of others (ill-informed reputation, antiquated facts, prejudices) to dominate your view of things, then they are equally useless. They are far more similar than they are different.

Oh yeah, I totally went to a nothing school. I graduated with honors from Phillips Academy, Andover, applied early to Georgetown School of Foreign Service and UChicago, got into both, and chose Georgetown. I didn't apply anywhere else because those were my top choice schools. I graduated with a 3.85 GPA and then graduated with honors from UChicago with a graduate degree in political science. I'm now at my dream job.

But sure -- I'm just a nobody desperate to prove myself.

[Anonymous]

The schools boast diversity but that is a flat out lie. Jewish students are over represented at 27% of the student body. Non Jewish white students are the most underpresented group compared with the overall population.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The schools boast diversity but that is a flat out lie. Jewish students are over represented at 27% of the student body. Non Jewish white students are the most underpresented group compared with the overall population.

Princeton:

Ethnicity of Students from U.S. 0.1% American Indian/Alaskan Native
24.3% Asian
8.6% Black/African-American
10.5% Hispanic/Latino
4.3% Multi-race (not Hispanic/Latino)
0.2% Native Hawaiian/ Pacific Islander
50.3% White. -> approx. 10% Jewish not all a Jews are white
1.7% Unknown
14% legacy
International Students 11.1% from 93 countries

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Exactly. Anyone would be privileged to go to any of them. The nowhere sbillet jelly state u alums are desperate to prove themselves.. I know, I know, you went to UMd.. And your program was better than Harvard.


Quote=Anonymous]All three are terrific schools. If you are really bright, have a sense of purpose and go after what you want in life, they can equally give you what you need. If you are, however, the type that allows the impressions of others (ill-informed reputation, antiquated facts, prejudices) to dominate your view of things, then they are equally useless. They are far more similar than they are different.

Oh yeah, I totally went to a nothing school. I graduated with honors from Phillips Academy, Andover, applied early to Georgetown School of Foreign Service and UChicago, got into both, and chose Georgetown. I didn't apply anywhere else because those were my top choice schools. I graduated with a 3.85 GPA and then graduated with honors from UChicago with a graduate degree in political science. I'm now at my dream job.

But sure -- I'm just a nobody desperate to prove myself.

Sure seems that way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The schools boast diversity but that is a flat out lie. Jewish students are over represented at 27% of the student body. Non Jewish white students are the most underpresented group compared with the overall population.

Princeton:

Ethnicity of Students from U.S. 0.1% American Indian/Alaskan Native
24.3% Asian
8.6% Black/African-American
10.5% Hispanic/Latino
4.3% Multi-race (not Hispanic/Latino)
0.2% Native Hawaiian/ Pacific Islander
50.3% White. -> approx. 10% Jewish not all a Jews are white
1.7% Unknown
14% legacy
International Students 11.1% from 93 countries

Well Princeton is the least Jewish of the Ivy League save Dartmouth. If you want to criticize on this point, you should look at Harvard and Yale (not to mention Penn and Columbia) before Princeton.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. this is a ridiculous thread, in large part because getting into these schools has become essentially a lottery, and there are far more than 3 excellent schools in this country, so boiling it down constantly to these 3 is ridiculous and narrow-minded.

2. princeton is exclusionary and elitist to the point of being almost offensive. harvard's undergrad education is not worth it (too much grade inflation, too many classes taught by TAs). if i had to chose, i'd chose yale (despite the fact that new haven sucks). however, i chose to not apply to any of those colleges (applied to georgetown sfs and uchicago early, got into both and chose georgetown sfs).

You accurately describe Princeton a century ago - today not at all. How big of you to not even apply to any of these schools and yet to profess so much knowledge about them.

And how much do you know about Princeton? I have dozens of friends who went to those schools (my high school is essentially a feeder school to Ivy league and other top schools). It was very clear to all of us that Princeton expends the least effort of basically any other school in America to try to truly become an inclusive institution.

Well, I went there and am still actively involved. For example, I attended an event with the university President a few months ago where 80% of the talk was about financial and other efforts to creat socioeconomic diversity. I think one could even argue that this laudable goal is becoming too much of a focus, but maybe they rightly feel that they have to go above and beyond because of people like you who have very outdated views of Princeton.

I don't think the presidents of Harvard or Yale are nearly as impressive as Chris Eisgruber. He is a star.

The campus of Princeton is obviously more of a suburban setting than Cambridge or New Haven, but the students generally are more down to earth.

[Anonymous]

Very informative thread. Thank you.

[Anonymous]

Most people in the end can't resist the prestige of the H bomb.

[Anonymous]

DC got into H, turned it down for Stanford. The H bomb isn't the end-all for many people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DC got into H, turned it down for Stanford. The H bomb isn't the end-all for many people.

In terms of brand Stanford is higher than Yale and Princeton so it makes it easier. When choosing amongst HYP, the H prestige compared to YP is often too hard to pass up.

[Anonymous]

Depending on your fashion sense.

H has the reputation of churning out drop out billionaire. This is by far the most popular.

P carries the esteemed air of preppiness.

Y gives an impression of old professor wearing hackets with elbow patch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Exactly. Anyone would be privileged to go to any of them. The nowhere sbillet jelly state u alums are desperate to prove themselves.. I know, I know, you went to UMd.. And your program was better than Harvard.


Quote=Anonymous]All three are terrific schools. If you are really bright, have a sense of purpose and go after what you want in life, they can equally give you what you need. If you are, however, the type that allows the impressions of others (ill-informed reputation, antiquated facts, prejudices) to dominate your view of things, then they are equally useless. They are far more similar than they are different.

Oh yeah, I totally went to a nothing school. I graduated with honors from Phillips Academy, Andover, applied early to Georgetown School of Foreign Service and UChicago, got into both, and chose Georgetown. I didn't apply anywhere else because those were my top choice schools. I graduated with a 3.85 GPA and then graduated with honors from UChicago with a graduate degree in political science. I'm now at my dream job.

But sure -- I'm just a nobody desperate to prove myself.

NP here. Telling us your life accomplishments and GPA sort of proves what the other poster was saying. Why don’t you post your SAT score too?!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Princeton undergrad, Harvard grad

hi ted. stop being a bigot

lol