DC CAS scores to be released 7/31/14

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:At least the scores reinforce our decision to go private by third grade.


Scores (statistics) can always reinforce what you want to hear.


Yeah, especially poor scores like these.


Well, they are not all poor.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At least the scores reinforce our decision to go private by third grade.


Scores (statistics) can always reinforce what you want to hear.


Yeah, especially poor scores like these.


Well, they are not all poor.


It's all relative. Our HRCS scores are not very good and it's actually on the list for top ten. While that kind of scores are acceptable when DC is in the early grades, it's not acceptable when your kid is approaching upper elementary. Much as we love the school and school community, just looking at the scores makes leaving much easier.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At least the scores reinforce our decision to go private by third grade.


Scores (statistics) can always reinforce what you want to hear.


Yeah, especially poor scores like these.


Well, they are not all poor.


It's all relative. Our HRCS scores are not very good and it's actually on the list for top ten. While that kind of scores are acceptable when DC is in the early grades, it's not acceptable when your kid is approaching upper elementary. Much as we love the school and school community, just looking at the scores makes leaving much easier.


These are my thoughts as well, but we can't afford private.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At least the scores reinforce our decision to go private by third grade.


Scores (statistics) can always reinforce what you want to hear.


Yeah, especially poor scores like these.


Well, they are not all poor.


It's all relative. Our HRCS scores are not very good and it's actually on the list for top ten. While that kind of scores are acceptable when DC is in the early grades, it's not acceptable when your kid is approaching upper elementary. Much as we love the school and school community, just looking at the scores makes leaving much easier.


Yes, it is relative to you, but objectively there are schools with very good schools. Point being-- "these" are not all poor scores.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At least the scores reinforce our decision to go private by third grade.


Scores (statistics) can always reinforce what you want to hear.


Yeah, especially poor scores like these.


Well, they are not all poor.


It's all relative. Our HRCS scores are not very good and it's actually on the list for top ten. While that kind of scores are acceptable when DC is in the early grades, it's not acceptable when your kid is approaching upper elementary. Much as we love the school and school community, just looking at the scores makes leaving much easier.


Yes, it is relative to you, but objectively there are schools with very good schools. Point being-- "these" are not all poor scores.


very good scores
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At least the scores reinforce our decision to go private by third grade.


Scores (statistics) can always reinforce what you want to hear.


Yeah, especially poor scores like these.


Well, they are not all poor.


It's all relative. Our HRCS scores are not very good and it's actually on the list for top ten. While that kind of scores are acceptable when DC is in the early grades, it's not acceptable when your kid is approaching upper elementary. Much as we love the school and school community, just looking at the scores makes leaving much easier.


These are my thoughts as well, but we can't afford private.


It is all relative, but it makes me feel good, not bad. Our HRCS is at the bottom of the top 10 charters (hello YY!), and I gotta say, given that the students spend 50% of the school year learning in Mandarin, I'm actually really optimistic. Of course I want to see the school's scores go up - up a lot - but it actually feels like quite an accomplishment that even with half of the learning time in a language with a different alphabet and so many families that are not speaking Mandarin at home, and the testing grades are still relatively new (isn't YY only 6 yrs old?), the overall score is still 79% proficient.

For that school it makes me hopeful, not want to leave. I want to stay and keep working as a parent on improving those scores.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How did Tubman fall almost 25 points in math and 14 points in reading?


they didn't cheat this year?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:proficient is usually about 60%, and advanced around 70%
Being proficient in DC CAS may translate into a D, and advanced into a C. Bette to look at the percentage of correct answers


proficiency can be as low as 45%. google dc cas technical report. interesting reading.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At least the scores reinforce our decision to go private by third grade.


Scores (statistics) can always reinforce what you want to hear.


Yeah, especially poor scores like these.


Well, they are not all poor.


It's all relative. Our HRCS scores are not very good and it's actually on the list for top ten. While that kind of scores are acceptable when DC is in the early grades, it's not acceptable when your kid is approaching upper elementary. Much as we love the school and school community, just looking at the scores makes leaving much easier.


These are my thoughts as well, but we can't afford private.


It is all relative, but it makes me feel good, not bad. Our HRCS is at the bottom of the top 10 charters (hello YY!), and I gotta say, given that the students spend 50% of the school year learning in Mandarin, I'm actually really optimistic. Of course I want to see the school's scores go up - up a lot - but it actually feels like quite an accomplishment that even with half of the learning time in a language with a different alphabet and so many families that are not speaking Mandarin at home, and the testing grades are still relatively new (isn't YY only 6 yrs old?), the overall score is still 79% proficient.

For that school it makes me hopeful, not want to leave. I want to stay and keep working as a parent on improving those scores.


The scores are from kids who started at YY in preK so we've been waiting for that big "bump up" from previous years where the "excuse" was that the kids started in K, 1st, etc. Looks like this is about the best the school can achieve and frankly it's a disappointment since we chose YY over private schools for the Mandarin. Also, getting tired of all the turnover in staff: Wouldn't be surprise if the coming yrs scores actually fell due to staff turnover. Compared to other Mandarin immersion schools in other parts of the country, YY's scores in English and Math are not impressive.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At least the scores reinforce our decision to go private by third grade.


Scores (statistics) can always reinforce what you want to hear.


Yeah, especially poor scores like these.


Well, they are not all poor.


It's all relative. Our HRCS scores are not very good and it's actually on the list for top ten. While that kind of scores are acceptable when DC is in the early grades, it's not acceptable when your kid is approaching upper elementary. Much as we love the school and school community, just looking at the scores makes leaving much easier.


These are my thoughts as well, but we can't afford private.


It is all relative, but it makes me feel good, not bad. Our HRCS is at the bottom of the top 10 charters (hello YY!), and I gotta say, given that the students spend 50% of the school year learning in Mandarin, I'm actually really optimistic. Of course I want to see the school's scores go up - up a lot - but it actually feels like quite an accomplishment that even with half of the learning time in a language with a different alphabet and so many families that are not speaking Mandarin at home, and the testing grades are still relatively new (isn't YY only 6 yrs old?), the overall score is still 79% proficient.

For that school it makes me hopeful, not want to leave. I want to stay and keep working as a parent on improving those scores.


The scores are from kids who started at YY in preK so we've been waiting for that big "bump up" from previous years where the "excuse" was that the kids started in K, 1st, etc. Looks like this is about the best the school can achieve and frankly it's a disappointment since we chose YY over private schools for the Mandarin. Also, getting tired of all the turnover in staff: Wouldn't be surprise if the coming yrs scores actually fell due to staff turnover. Compared to other Mandarin immersion schools in other parts of the country, YY's scores in English and Math are not impressive.


You're certainly entitled to your opinion. I don't believe at all though that this is the best the school can achieve. Time will tell...

Also, what grade is your child in now that you've experienced "all this staff turnover"? I'd be very interested to know, since I know several families in the upper grades and have not heard anyone else complain of this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At least the scores reinforce our decision to go private by third grade.


Scores (statistics) can always reinforce what you want to hear.


Yeah, especially poor scores like these.


Well, they are not all poor.


It's all relative. Our HRCS scores are not very good and it's actually on the list for top ten. While that kind of scores are acceptable when DC is in the early grades, it's not acceptable when your kid is approaching upper elementary. Much as we love the school and school community, just looking at the scores makes leaving much easier.


These are my thoughts as well, but we can't afford private.



It is all relative, but it makes me feel good, not bad. Our HRCS is at the bottom of the top 10 charters (hello YY!), and I gotta say, given that the students spend 50% of the school year learning in Mandarin, I'm actually really optimistic. Of course I want to see the school's scores go up - up a lot - but it actually feels like quite an accomplishment that even with half of the learning time in a language with a different alphabet and so many families that are not speaking Mandarin at home, and the testing grades are still relatively new (isn't YY only 6 yrs old?), the overall score is still 79% proficient.

For that school it makes me hopeful, not want to leave. I want to stay and keep working as a parent on improving those scores.


The scores are from kids who started at YY in preK so we've been waiting for that big "bump up" from previous years where the "excuse" was that the kids started in K, 1st, etc. Looks like this is about the best the school can achieve and frankly it's a disappointment since we chose YY over private schools for the Mandarin. Also, getting tired of all the turnover in staff: Wouldn't be surprise if the coming yrs scores actually fell due to staff turnover. Compared to other Mandarin immersion schools in other parts of the country, YY's scores in English and Math are not impressive.


How did your child do on the tests? Are his or her scores impressive?
Anonymous
Staff turnover = Assistant principal, Sp Ed Coordinator, Sp Ed teacher - all were on the team that coordinated taking DC CAS.
Anonymous
Do these score make anyone else want to just flee DC? It's like we're trying so hard to get into a handful of supposedly HRCSs when their scores are actually not that great.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Do these score make anyone else want to just flee DC? It's like we're trying so hard to get into a handful of supposedly HRCSs when their scores are actually not that great.


It's the best your going to get in an urban city.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:"If the charters are pulling from the same crowd that KIPP is pulling from, why can't they bring to a similar proficiency as a KIPP. How well-rounded do you need to be in elementary school and exactly what are you teaching that is so inefficient and taking away time from learning the basics? Honestly, I want to know."

Agree. I'm all for a progressive approach to education, but if that means the percentage of proficiency is below 85%, that is just not acceptable to me. I like the idea of a lot of these other charters and agree that KIPP or DC Prep might not be a match for my child, but I can't imagine sending him to a school with such low scores, even if I do like the concept of the approach.


People have to recognize that in city where 70% of kids live in poverty, only a small portion of them will get into KIPP or DC Prep, which are prepared to meet them where they're at. The rest will go to HRCS and DCPS where there is no differentiation or even -- golly! -- acknowledgement of the huge differences in the amount of home support, etc. they receive.

KIPP and DC Prep thrive because they acknowledge reality.
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