DC CAS scores to be released 7/31/14

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Anonymous wrote:I am not a parent and either of these schools but:

YAY for Ross, that is AMAZING!
Yay for Eaton!
Impressed with Basis and think it has a direct relation of th Latin's significant drop in scores
Stoddert is earning the S in the now ERJKLMMS!! Very impressed with Stoddert, larger OOB, minority and FARM than many schools WOTP and still scores keep rising.
Keep it up YY (shake the haters off)!
Why don't Shepherd, Mckinley High, and Banneker get love on DCUM? Can't help to think it's a race thing. Especially since Shepherd is only 33% FARM (79% black), aren't those the "safe" ones you want your kid to go to school with?

FWIW, Shepherd's demographics are changing rapidly. Upper grades are almost completely black, but the new PS3 class (at least what I could tell from school tours and PS3 Pop in and Preview day) will be less so.

In addition, upper grades are mostly OOB and have a higher FARMS percentage, but the PS3 class looks like it will be all IB this year. I expect test scores will continue to improve, since most Shepherd IB families are relatively high SES. Who knows, maybe the relatively new International Bacc. curriculum will also help in this regard.

That being said, I have to agree w/a PP--Shepherd is still too far out of the way for most to consider--at least for now, until the school's popularity catches up w/its test scores and potential.

-Parent of a rising Shepherd PS3er

Eeew! I don't like you and I am IB. Is this the type of white IB resident we are attracting these days. Shepherd does not need changing demographics, aka white students to achieve. Scores have always been decent in spite of the iffy administrations it has had.

I remember when white people wanting to send their kids to SEGREGATED schools made them racist (which I think was a fair charecterization - and is still the case in much of America) DC is so odd in that white people wanting to send their kids to an integrated school makes them racist.

When posters are implying that less blacks and more whites is a good thing, it screams basic DCUM (more white = better) theory.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not a parent and either of these schools but:

YAY for Ross, that is AMAZING!
Yay for Eaton!
Impressed with Basis and think it has a direct relation of th Latin's significant drop in scores
Stoddert is earning the S in the now ERJKLMMS!! Very impressed with Stoddert, larger OOB, minority and FARM than many schools WOTP and still scores keep rising.
Keep it up YY (shake the haters off)!
Why don't Shepherd, Mckinley High, and Banneker get love on DCUM? Can't help to think it's a race thing. Especially since Shepherd is only 33% FARM (79% black), aren't those the "safe" ones you want your kid to go to school with?

FWIW, Shepherd's demographics are changing rapidly. Upper grades are almost completely black, but the new PS3 class (at least what I could tell from school tours and PS3 Pop in and Preview day) will be less so.

In addition, upper grades are mostly OOB and have a higher FARMS percentage, but the PS3 class looks like it will be all IB this year. I expect test scores will continue to improve, since most Shepherd IB families are relatively high SES. Who knows, maybe the relatively new International Bacc. curriculum will also help in this regard.

That being said, I have to agree w/a PP--Shepherd is still too far out of the way for most to consider--at least for now, until the school's popularity catches up w/its test scores and potential.

-Parent of a rising Shepherd PS3er

Eeew! I don't like you and I am IB. Is this the type of white IB resident we are attracting these days. Shepherd does not need changing demographics, aka white students to achieve. Scores have always been decent in spite of the iffy administrations it has had.

Totally agree. I am an IB parent of an AA boy that is advanced. Posts like these make me nervous to think who my neighbors are.

Whoa, hi Shepherd Park neighbors! I'm the PP above who mentioned that Shepherd's demographics are changing. I was just responding to a PP who speculated that Shepherd and a few other schools were not popular with the DCUM crowd because they are predominantly AA. I only meant to suggest that it was a "hidden gem"--good test scores and all--that will likely get more popular with DCUMers, partly because its demographics are changing. And, BTW, I'm black.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not a parent and either of these schools but:

YAY for Ross, that is AMAZING!
Yay for Eaton!
Impressed with Basis and think it has a direct relation of th Latin's significant drop in scores
Stoddert is earning the S in the now ERJKLMMS!! Very impressed with Stoddert, larger OOB, minority and FARM than many schools WOTP and still scores keep rising.
Keep it up YY (shake the haters off)!
Why don't Shepherd, Mckinley High, and Banneker get love on DCUM? Can't help to think it's a race thing. Especially since Shepherd is only 33% FARM (79% black), aren't those the "safe" ones you want your kid to go to school with?

FWIW, Shepherd's demographics are changing rapidly. Upper grades are almost completely black, but the new PS3 class (at least what I could tell from school tours and PS3 Pop in and Preview day) will be less so.

In addition, upper grades are mostly OOB and have a higher FARMS percentage, but the PS3 class looks like it will be all IB this year. I expect test scores will continue to improve, since most Shepherd IB families are relatively high SES. Who knows, maybe the relatively new International Bacc. curriculum will also help in this regard.

That being said, I have to agree w/a PP--Shepherd is still too far out of the way for most to consider--at least for now, until the school's popularity catches up w/its test scores and potential.

-Parent of a rising Shepherd PS3er

Eeew! I don't like you and I am IB. Is this the type of white IB resident we are attracting these days. Shepherd does not need changing demographics, aka white students to achieve. Scores have always been decent in spite of the iffy administrations it has had.

I remember when white people wanting to send their kids to SEGREGATED schools made them racist (which I think was a fair charecterization - and is still the case in much of America) DC is so odd in that white people wanting to send their kids to an integrated school makes them racist.

When posters are implying that less blacks and more whites is a good thing, it screams basic DCUM (more white = better) theory.

Thats how people are reading it. I personally doubt that many of the people in DC who would prefer a 10% white, 90% black school to a 100% black school are really the sort who would prefer an 80% white 20% black school to a 70% white 30% black school. I understand there is history and troubled dynamics behind reacting that way, but its still odd. Basically its saying that integration is not worth anything.

Put another way, one problem for race relations in DC is that white folks are too tolerant. In most of the country, a neighborhood, or school that became say 10% white would stay that way because there would be no more whites willing to go to a majority black place. Or it would become all black again. In DC there are so many whites who are delighted to live in a place, or send their kids to a school, that is 10 or 20% black, that before long the place will become majority white with accompanying gentrification, displacement, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not a parent and either of these schools but:

YAY for Ross, that is AMAZING!
Yay for Eaton!
Impressed with Basis and think it has a direct relation of th Latin's significant drop in scores
Stoddert is earning the S in the now ERJKLMMS!! Very impressed with Stoddert, larger OOB, minority and FARM than many schools WOTP and still scores keep rising.
Keep it up YY (shake the haters off)!
Why don't Shepherd, Mckinley High, and Banneker get love on DCUM? Can't help to think it's a race thing. Especially since Shepherd is only 33% FARM (79% black), aren't those the "safe" ones you want your kid to go to school with?

FWIW, Shepherd's demographics are changing rapidly. Upper grades are almost completely black, but the new PS3 class (at least what I could tell from school tours and PS3 Pop in and Preview day) will be less so.

In addition, upper grades are mostly OOB and have a higher FARMS percentage, but the PS3 class looks like it will be all IB this year. I expect test scores will continue to improve, since most Shepherd IB families are relatively high SES. Who knows, maybe the relatively new International Bacc. curriculum will also help in this regard.

That being said, I have to agree w/a PP--Shepherd is still too far out of the way for most to consider--at least for now, until the school's popularity catches up w/its test scores and potential.

-Parent of a rising Shepherd PS3er

Eeew! I don't like you and I am IB. Is this the type of white IB resident we are attracting these days. Shepherd does not need changing demographics, aka white students to achieve. Scores have always been decent in spite of the iffy administrations it has had.

I remember when white people wanting to send their kids to SEGREGATED schools made them racist (which I think was a fair charecterization - and is still the case in much of America) DC is so odd in that white people wanting to send their kids to an integrated school makes them racist.

When posters are implying that less blacks and more whites is a good thing, it screams basic DCUM (more white = better) theory.

Thats how people are reading it. I personally doubt that many of the people in DC who would prefer a 10% white, 90% black school to a 100% black school are really the sort who would prefer an 80% white 20% black school to a 70% white 30% black school. I understand there is history and troubled dynamics behind reacting that way, but its still odd. Basically its saying that integration is not worth anything.

Put another way, one problem for race relations in DC is that white folks are too tolerant. In most of the country, a neighborhood, or school that became say 10% white would stay that way because there would be no more whites willing to go to a majority black place. Or it would become all black again. In DC there are so many whites who are delighted to live in a place, or send their kids to a school, that is 10 or 20% black, that before long the place will become majority white with accompanying gentrification, displacement, etc.

You can also say that those folks are "willing" to go to a 10% white school because they don't have any other options and can't afford private. You don't get credit for being a trailblazer if there are no other options. Especially when you admit that you would prefer for the already enrolled black % to decrease more if possible.

[Anonymous]

By the way, bigots, I hoped you noted that the poster you've been castigating as a veiled racist is black. See, not everything is racism. Jesus christ, learn this point. Or not, just continue your conversation as if this point has no relevance. Bigot on, folks, bigot on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:By the way, bigots, I hoped you noted that the poster you've been castigating as a veiled racist is black. See, not everything is racism. Jesus christ, learn this point. Or not, just continue your conversation as if this point has no relevance. Bigot on, folks, bigot on.

Sure because everything everyone says is a fact on DCUM. If you can't acknowledge that there is tons of overt and discrete racism on this board, then there is no point in debating. Because on this board white means safe. Wilson and Walls is the go to high school but 99% black Banneker doesn't even get a glance.

[Anonymous]

why do you assume it is a "no other options" thing. We love where we live, the school is predominately AA, who cares. We don't want any other option. We are happy with this option. We can afford plenty of other options. We choose to live where we do because we love our diverse neighborhood. I don't want credit for being a trailblazer either. I just don't want people to think I am so-called "taking what I can get". That is offensive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:why do you assume it is a "no other options" thing. We love where we live, the school is predominately AA, who cares. We don't want any other option. We are happy with this option. We can afford plenty of other options. We choose to live where we do because we love our diverse neighborhood. I don't want credit for being a trailblazer either. I just don't want people to think I am so-called "taking what I can get". That is offensive.

Not everyone has used race as a reference just like not every black student is a poor performer. People speak in general terms. Doesn't meant they are talking about you.

[Anonymous]

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You can also say that those folks are "willing" to go to a 10% white school because they don't have any other options and can't afford private. You don't get credit for being a trailblazer if there are no other options. Especially when you admit that you would prefer for the already enrolled black % to decrease more if possible.

Did Maryland and Virginia finally disappear? Everyone with a good income has other options, unless the house they live in is under water, and I doubt that applies to many white families in DC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:By the way, bigots, I hoped you noted that the poster you've been castigating as a veiled racist is black. See, not everything is racism. Jesus christ, learn this point. Or not, just continue your conversation as if this point has no relevance. Bigot on, folks, bigot on.

Sure because everything everyone says is a fact on DCUM. If you can't acknowledge that there is tons of overt and discrete racism on this board, then there is no point in debating. Because on this board white means safe. Wilson and Walls is the go to high school but 99% black Banneker doesn't even get a glance.

Wilson is 46% black and 17% latino. Anyone who considers Wilson a desirable school is not a bigot. If you think they are, you are not living in the same country I am living in. In Fairfax Wilson would be considered "hood". Or look at the agonizing about TC Williams in Alexandria, or about Wakefield HS in Arlington. And thats in the "liberal" parts of inner NoVa, not say suburban Milwaukee.

As for Banneker, I guess a lot of people don't want to be the "only". I hear thats true for many African Americans as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:By the way, bigots, I hoped you noted that the poster you've been castigating as a veiled racist is black. See, not everything is racism. Jesus christ, learn this point. Or not, just continue your conversation as if this point has no relevance. Bigot on, folks, bigot on.

Sure because everything everyone says is a fact on DCUM. If you can't acknowledge that there is tons of overt and discrete racism on this board, then there is no point in debating. Because on this board white means safe. Wilson and Walls is the go to high school but 99% black Banneker doesn't even get a glance.

Wilson is 46% black and 17% latino. Anyone who considers Wilson a desirable school is not a bigot. If you think they are, you are not living in the same country I am living in. In Fairfax Wilson would be considered "hood". Or look at the agonizing about TC Williams in Alexandria, or about Wakefield HS in Arlington. And thats in the "liberal" parts of inner NoVa, not say suburban Milwaukee.

As for Banneker, I guess a lot of people don't want to be the "only". I hear thats true for many African Americans as well.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:By the way, bigots, I hoped you noted that the poster you've been castigating as a veiled racist is black. See, not everything is racism. Jesus christ, learn this point. Or not, just continue your conversation as if this point has no relevance. Bigot on, folks, bigot on.

Sure because everything everyone says is a fact on DCUM. If you can't acknowledge that there is tons of overt and discrete racism on this board, then there is no point in debating. Because on this board white means safe. Wilson and Walls is the go to high school but 99% black Banneker doesn't even get a glance.

Wilson is 46% black and 17% latino. Anyone who considers Wilson a desirable school is not a bigot. If you think they are, you are not living in the same country I am living in. In Fairfax Wilson would be considered "hood". Or look at the agonizing about TC Williams in Alexandria, or about Wakefield HS in Arlington. And thats in the "liberal" parts of inner NoVa, not say suburban Milwaukee.

As for Banneker, I guess a lot of people don't want to be the "only". I hear thats true for many African Americans as well.

Actually, your kid would not be the only at Banneker. There are a handful of whites and Asians at the school, but I guess not enough to move the meter.

[Anonymous]

FYI: The 2014 DC CAS scores for students and disaggregated data have been sent to the schools. They'll probably be mailed out to families with the next 2 weeks.