WaPo Story on Marshall Student Accpeted to USC at 16 - Read This if DC Did Not Get Into TJ.

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Anonymous wrote:USC is a great school, but it kind of has that "rich kid" GW vibe, while UCLA has the better academic reputation. On the other hand, the WASPy culture of USC may be on the way out, as the student body is becoming more diverse today. The percentage of Asian students has been steadily going up, and the school has put a lot of effort into recruiting students from China, South Korea, etc.

that's because they pay full tuition which helps to support USC's expensive football team.

It is obvious you know very little about big college football. Universities with successful football teams pay for a lot of the other academic and small athletic programs at the university. On top of the revenue generated by tv and bowl appearances, alum boosters pour millions of dollars into the program. In turn, the football team return money to the university to provide academic merit scholarships.

yes, I acknowledged this above. The team makes a profit. So the surplus can be used to build the fence around the campus to keep the neighborhood thugs out.

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They've had that one gate open after certain hours and on the weekends for a long, long time. The crime rate in and around that school is very high. It's not only the neighborhood people but other students who are criminals.

Isn't the crime rate around Yale and Penn high? If your kid was accepted into either of those schools would you discourage him/her from attending either of those institutions.

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Here are the stats for the City of Los Angeles. As an EP wrote, the LA metro area is ranked the 19th safest city in the United States. Like most large American cities, LA has experienced a downward trend in crime, and especially violent crime, over the past 10 years. In 2012, LA reported 298 homicides, which is down significantly from the 1,093 homicides reported in 1993.

For the University Park neighborhood surrounding USC, the LA Times reports an overall crime rate for the past six months of 192.4, with 48 violent crimes and 437 property crimes (http://projects.latimes.com/mapping-la/neighborhoods/neighborhood/university-park/crime/). This is slightly higher than nearby neighborhoods.

It is probably a bit of a stretch in 2013 to call LA a "poweder keg." Many of the AA neighborhoods are increasingly hispanic, as many AAs have decamped for other places and states.

As to why not more is reported on inner city violence in the press, I just cite a quote from John Singleton's excellent 1991 film "Boyz n the Hood:" Either they don't know, don't show, or don't care about what's going on in the hood."

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Anonymous wrote:Is the last post for real? Makes South Central LA sound like a favela, which maybe it is.

Irony is that the girl probably could go to George Mason with dozens of her Marshall classmates and get as good an education as at USC.

Are these descriptions exaggerations? If indeed south central Los Angeles is this dangerous, shouldn't the National Guard be sent in to patrol the streets? What is an equivalent neighborhood in terms of crime in this area?

Crime has been targeted at the students and the National Guard has been called out before - for the Watts riots and the Rodney King riots. The place is a powder keg.

Wasn't the Watts' riot the result of MLK Jr. assisination? How many years ago was that? I remember Rodney King riot and I think that was in the 90's right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here are the stats for the City of Los Angeles. As an EP wrote, the LA metro area is ranked the 19th safest city in the United States. Like most large American cities, LA has experienced a downward trend in crime, and especially violent crime, over the past 10 years. In 2012, LA reported 298 homicides, which is down significantly from the 1,093 homicides reported in 1993.

For the University Park neighborhood surrounding USC, the LA Times reports an overall crime rate for the past six months of 192.4, with 48 violent crimes and 437 property crimes (http://projects.latimes.com/mapping-la/neighborhoods/neighborhood/university-park/crime/). This is slightly higher than nearby neighborhoods.

It is probably a bit of a stretch in 2013 to call LA a "poweder keg." Many of the AA neighborhoods are increasingly hispanic, as many AAs have decamped for other places and states.

As to why not more is reported on inner city violence in the press, I just cite a quote from John Singleton's excellent 1991 film "Boyz n the Hood:" Either they don't know, don't show, or don't care about what's going on in the hood."

Most people don't care. As they don't feel that it affects or can affect them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here are the stats for the City of Los Angeles. As an EP wrote, the LA metro area is ranked the 19th safest city in the United States. Like most large American cities, LA has experienced a downward trend in crime, and especially violent crime, over the past 10 years. In 2012, LA reported 298 homicides, which is down significantly from the 1,093 homicides reported in 1993.

For the University Park neighborhood surrounding USC, the LA Times reports an overall crime rate for the past six months of 192.4, with 48 violent crimes and 437 property crimes (http://projects.latimes.com/mapping-la/neighborhoods/neighborhood/university-park/crime/). This is slightly higher than nearby neighborhoods.

It is probably a bit of a stretch in 2013 to call LA a "poweder keg." Many of the AA neighborhoods are increasingly hispanic, as many AAs have decamped for other places and states.

As to why not more is reported on inner city violence in the press, I just cite a quote from John Singleton's excellent 1991 film "Boyz n the Hood:" Either they don't know, don't show, or don't care about what's going on in the hood."

Most people don't care. As they don't feel that it affects or can affect them.

USC students and their parents should care.

[Anonymous]

Nobody cares until some white girl gets killed.

[Anonymous]

Thank you poster who researched the crime statistics. It is probably a revelation to some people on this thread that LA (19th) and DC (20th) are almost equally safe, or equally dangerous, depending on your perspective.

For a local, a comparison to South Central LA would be SE DC. Also agree with the PP who noted that Asian and Latino immigrants have settled in many of the traditionally African American neighborhoods.

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you poster who researched the crime statistics. It is probably a revelation to some people on this thread that LA (19th) and DC (20th) are almost equally safe, or equally dangerous, depending on your perspective.

For a local, a comparison to South Central LA would be SE DC. Also agree with the PP who noted that Asian and Latino immigrants have settled in many of the traditionally African American neighborhoods.

the crime statistics poster did NOT say Asians have settled in the neighborhoods. You have to watch you every second as you are prone to making stuff up.
This area is principally noted for urban blight; as others have posted, one needs to get in a car to drive anywhere with amenities.

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Nor did they say that Latinos have replaced AAs. That is another set of statistics. However, Watts is now 65 percent Hispanic. It was once majority AA. The demographics are changing, just as they have in DC.

The Watts riots were not in response to MLK's assassination. They occurred in 1965. MLK was murdered in 1968. Major riots in his case occurred in Washington, DC - with fires burning less than 8 blocks from the White House, Baltimore and Chicago.

So, it has been nearly 40 years since Watts and 20 years since the 1992 riots. I would hazard a guess that LA is not the "powder keg" now that it was 20 or 40 years ago.

Reported violent crimes in SE DC (Anacostia) in 2011 were 21.4 per 1,000 population. University Park's violent crime rate is 19.2 per 10,000. Not sure how to make the comparison, since DCMPD collects stats per 1,000 and LAPD per 10,000. Is it possible that University Park's rate is lower than SE DC?

In any case, neither DC nor LA are among America's most dangerous cities. That does not mean there are less sfe areas in each, but that both cities by and large are reasonably safe.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you poster who researched the crime statistics. It is probably a revelation to some people on this thread that LA (19th) and DC (20th) are almost equally safe, or equally dangerous, depending on your perspective.

For a local, a comparison to South Central LA would be SE DC. Also agree with the PP who noted that Asian and Latino immigrants have settled in many of the traditionally African American neighborhoods.

the crime statistics poster did NOT say Asians have settled in the neighborhoods. You have to watch you every second as you are prone to making stuff up.
This area is principally noted for urban blight; as others have posted, one needs to get in a car to drive anywhere with amenities.

New poster here. Previous poster I have to respectfully disagree with you. It is true that both Latinos and, to a lesser extent, Asian immigrants now live in some areas of Watts, Crenshaw and South Central LA.

The demographics of LA continue to change with, as one previous posters did actually say, new Latino and Asian transplants displacing some of the African American population who move away from these areas to either other Ca cities or out of state.

I personally find the loss of these AA communities, which have been part of the LA's fabric for decades, a loss to the city. The different ethnic groups do have some tension with one another as another posted noted, and unfortunately as one group starts to be a neighborhood majority, the others often move away.

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. . . you are mistaken if you believe McLean is "almost exclusively white." . . . some parts of McLean have up to a 40% minority population.

I was following a recent thread in the VA Public Schools forum schools that discussed diversity in FFC. If you are looking for a diverse community, McLean is a multi-ethnic and diverse city in Fairfax County according to the posters in that thread (quoted above).


I'm the Turkey Run (McLean) poster from earlier.

McLean is quite white. Not sure where they get 40% minority population. My DH is AA, and he always jokes that it's pretty much him, Colin Powell, and 1 of the Redskins. (oh, and our kids....)

There is a lot of diversity in terms of nationality, though.

White alone - 36,273 (75.4%)
Asian alone - 7,156 (14.9%)
Hispanic - 2,335 (4.9%)
Two or more races - 1,293 (2.7%)
Black alone - 851 (1.8%)
Other race alone - 145 (0.3%)
American Indian alone - 48 (0.10%)
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander




Quote from today's Real Estate forum on a thread about Fairfax County.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

. . . you are mistaken if you believe McLean is "almost exclusively white." . . . some parts of McLean have up to a 40% minority population.

I was following a recent thread in the VA Public Schools forum schools that discussed diversity in FFC. If you are looking for a diverse community, McLean is a multi-ethnic and diverse city in Fairfax County according to the posters in that thread (quoted above).

I'm the Turkey Run (McLean) poster from earlier.

McLean is quite white. Not sure where they get 40% minority population. My DH is AA, and he always jokes that it's pretty much him, Colin Powell, and 1 of the Redskins. (oh, and our kids....)

There is a lot of diversity in terms of nationality, though.

White alone - 36,273 (75.4%)
Asian alone - 7,156 (14.9%)
Hispanic - 2,335 (4.9%)
Two or more races - 1,293 (2.7%)
Black alone - 851 (1.8%)
Other race alone - 145 (0.3%)
American Indian alone - 48 (0.10%)
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander




Quote from today's Real Estate forum on a thread about Fairfax County.

McLean residents which is it -- are you a diverse community or aren't you? I keep hearing different stories.

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McLean is like a chameleon really.

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Some people are referring to the statistics for the two zip codes that make up McLean (22101 and 22102). Others are referring to the demographics of McLean HS, which also pulls in students who live in parts of Falls Church and Vienna, as well as students who live in McLean south of Route 123.

McLean HS is 40% minority. McLean itself is whiter than McLean HS, and the Langley Oaks/Turkey Run area near Langley HS is one of the whiter parts of McLean.