Really don't like seeing the signs on Christian churches offering Seders

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Anonymous wrote:Plus, I don't know one Jew who has ever stumbled into a Christian church during Holy Week looking for an authentic Jewish seder. You honestly think a Jew would make such a "mistake?". Really?

Yes I, honestly, do.

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Anonymous wrote:Jew here. I don't care if churches have Seders as long as advertising and holding the Seders have absolutely nothing to do with trying to convert Jews to Christianity. It's hard to know if this is not a motivating factor, among others, for churches to hold Seders. If, in fact, this has nothing to do with holding and advertising a Seder, then I really don't care if a church wants to hold its own Seder. Hopefully there aren't any Jews who would be mislead into attending a church Seder.

Christian here. Let me reassure you that conversion is absolutely not the intent! Our church doesn't have a sign, but for those that do, you would probably notice that the announcement of an upcoming Seder is handled no differently from announcements of other events like the pancake supper, that is, the notice is meant to inform parishioners not to attract other faiths inside. I can't swear there's no church anywhere, maybe some place like the sleazy Westboro church, that isn't hoping a potential convert would walk through the door. However, I don't personally know a single church that has conversion as the goal. The Seder is for the church's own parishioners to learn and grow.

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Anonymous wrote:Jew here. I don't care if churches have Seders as long as advertising and holding the Seders have absolutely nothing to do with trying to convert Jews to Christianity. It's hard to know if this is not a motivating factor, among others, for churches to hold Seders. If, in fact, this has nothing to do with holding and advertising a Seder, then I really don't care if a church wants to hold its own Seder. Hopefully there aren't any Jews who would be mislead into attending a church Seder.

I can unequivocally tell you that in my experience, no one is trying to convert Jews through a reenactment of the last supper. We are focused on celebrating the holiest time on our own religious calendar, not on proselytizing. Does some church somewhere try this? Probably. But they are the fringe, certainly not the norm. Plus, you guys should know that the vast majority of churches don't hold these. There are four other services to plan for Holy Week. Mine doesn't hold one.

Also, thanks for letting us guys know.

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Anonymous wrote:Jew here. I don't care if churches have Seders as long as advertising and holding the Seders have absolutely nothing to do with trying to convert Jews to Christianity. It's hard to know if this is not a motivating factor, among others, for churches to hold Seders. If, in fact, this has nothing to do with holding and advertising a Seder, then I really don't care if a church wants to hold its own Seder. Hopefully there aren't any Jews who would be mislead into attending a church Seder.

Christian here. Let me reassure you that conversion is absolutely not the intent! Our church doesn't have a sign, but for those that do, you would probably notice that the announcement of an upcoming Seder is handled no differently from announcements of other events like the pancake supper, that is, the notice is meant to inform parishioners not to attract other faiths inside. I can't swear there's no church anywhere, maybe some place like the sleazy Westboro church, that isn't hoping a potential convert would walk through the door. However, I don't personally know a single church that has conversion as the goal. The Seder is for the church's own parishioners to learn and grow.

If that's the case, I'm totally cool with that.

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Anonymous wrote:Plus, I don't know one Jew who has ever stumbled into a Christian church during Holy Week looking for an authentic Jewish seder. You honestly think a Jew would make such a "mistake?". Really?

Yes I, honestly, do.

Well, not to be unkind, but I fail to see how that is the church's fault. That's called extreme naivety. It should be obvious to everyone everywhere that Christian churches don't conduct authentic Jewish rituals.

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Anonymous wrote:Plus, I don't know one Jew who has ever stumbled into a Christian church during Holy Week looking for an authentic Jewish seder. You honestly think a Jew would make such a "mistake?". Really?

Yes I, honestly, do.

Well, not to be unkind, but I fail to see how that is the church's fault. That's called extreme naivety. It should be obvious to everyone everywhere that Christian churches don't conduct authentic Jewish rituals.

I'm willing to accept PP's concern at face value. I do think the huge cross over the altar up front would be a pretty big sign that you 're in the wrong place. But then again, we've all been distracted at times.

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Anonymous wrote:Jew here. I don't care if churches have Seders as long as advertising and holding the Seders have absolutely nothing to do with trying to convert Jews to Christianity. It's hard to know if this is not a motivating factor, among others, for churches to hold Seders. If, in fact, this has nothing to do with holding and advertising a Seder, then I really don't care if a church wants to hold its own Seder. Hopefully there aren't any Jews who would be mislead into attending a church Seder.

Christian here. Let me reassure you that conversion is absolutely not the intent! Our church doesn't have a sign, but for those that do, you would probably notice that the announcement of an upcoming Seder is handled no differently from announcements of other events like the pancake supper, that is, the notice is meant to inform parishioners not to attract other faiths inside. I can't swear there's no church anywhere, maybe some place like the sleazy Westboro church, that isn't hoping a potential convert would walk through the door. However, I don't personally know a single church that has conversion as the goal. The Seder is for the church's own parishioners to learn and grow.

If that's the case, I'm totally cool with that.

Thank you! And Happy Passover! (Is there a better way to say that?)

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Anonymous wrote:Plus, I don't know one Jew who has ever stumbled into a Christian church during Holy Week looking for an authentic Jewish seder. You honestly think a Jew would make such a "mistake?". Really?

Yes I, honestly, do.

Well, not to be unkind, but I fail to see how that is the church's fault. That's called extreme naivety. It should be obvious to everyone everywhere that Christian churches don't conduct authentic Jewish rituals.

I'm willing to accept PP's concern at face value. I do think the huge cross over the altar up front would be a pretty big sign that you 're in the wrong place. But then again, we've all been distracted at times.

Geez, another straw man to get your panties in a twist over. Quelle suprise.

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Anonymous wrote:Plus, I don't know one Jew who has ever stumbled into a Christian church during Holy Week looking for an authentic Jewish seder. You honestly think a Jew would make such a "mistake?". Really?

Yes I, honestly, do.

Well, not to be unkind, but I fail to see how that is the church's fault. That's called extreme naivety. It should be obvious to everyone everywhere that Christian churches don't conduct authentic Jewish rituals.

I'm willing to accept PP's concern at face value. I do think the huge cross over the altar up front would be a pretty big sign that you 're in the wrong place. But then again, we've all been distracted at times.

Geez, another straw man to get your panties in a twist over. Quelle suprise.

Huh? I can't tell WHICH religion you are, if any, but you need to troll in different waters.

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Anonymous wrote:Plus, I don't know one Jew who has ever stumbled into a Christian church during Holy Week looking for an authentic Jewish seder. You honestly think a Jew would make such a "mistake?". Really?

Yes I, honestly, do.

Well, not to be unkind, but I fail to see how that is the church's fault. That's called extreme naivety. It should be obvious to everyone everywhere that Christian churches don't conduct authentic Jewish rituals.

I wouldn't expect for you to be able to understand the problem.

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Anonymous wrote:Plus, I don't know one Jew who has ever stumbled into a Christian church during Holy Week looking for an authentic Jewish seder. You honestly think a Jew would make such a "mistake?". Really?

Yes I, honestly, do.

Well, not to be unkind, but I fail to see how that is the church's fault. That's called extreme naivety. It should be obvious to everyone everywhere that Christian churches don't conduct authentic Jewish rituals.

You'd be surprised. There are Christian churches now that call themselves things like "Beth Israel" and claim they are Kosher.

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Anonymous wrote:Plus, I don't know one Jew who has ever stumbled into a Christian church during Holy Week looking for an authentic Jewish seder. You honestly think a Jew would make such a "mistake?". Really?

Yes I, honestly, do.

Well, not to be unkind, but I fail to see how that is the church's fault. That's called extreme naivety. It should be obvious to everyone everywhere that Christian churches don't conduct authentic Jewish rituals.

I wouldn't expect for you to be able to understand the problem.

No, I don't understand it, because I don't think it is an actual problem. It's a straw man and an excuse to be upset over an imagined boogeyman.

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Anonymous wrote:Plus, I don't know one Jew who has ever stumbled into a Christian church during Holy Week looking for an authentic Jewish seder. You honestly think a Jew would make such a "mistake?". Really?

Yes I, honestly, do.

Well, not to be unkind, but I fail to see how that is the church's fault. That's called extreme naivety. It should be obvious to everyone everywhere that Christian churches don't conduct authentic Jewish rituals.

I wouldn't expect for you to be able to understand the problem.

No, I don't understand it, because I don't think it is an actual problem. It's a straw man and an excuse to be upset over an imagined boogeyman.

Res Ipsa loquator

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Plus, I don't know one Jew who has ever stumbled into a Christian church during Holy Week looking for an authentic Jewish seder. You honestly think a Jew would make such a "mistake?". Really?

Yes I, honestly, do.

Well, not to be unkind, but I fail to see how that is the church's fault. That's called extreme naivety. It should be obvious to everyone everywhere that Christian churches don't conduct authentic Jewish rituals.

You'd be surprised. There are Christian churches now that call themselves things like "Beth Israel" and claim they are Kosher.

Where? I am unfamiliar with this totally. And if so, they are the fringe. Every religion has it's fringe, and it's unfair to judge an entire religion based on it's fringe of to extrapolate that because some fringe groups are doing something that it is some huge, dangerous trend.

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I'm just curious to know why OP and other orthodox think that they have a lock on history and that people of other religions are not allowed to talk about historical events.