Furlough letter - Explicit

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I'm sorry , as OP and a Fed who knows how much contractors make I don't give a rats ass about your layooff. I'm sure you all have had plenty of opportunities to come on board at our shitty pay scale but stayed your course. The outrageous billing of many of these companies is partly to blame for the money shortfall.

Wow, a Fed whose also a jacka$$. You're the reason so many non-feds hate civil servants. I make roughly 10-15% over what my civil servant counterparts make. Which nowhere NEAR makes up for all of the perks you civil servants get. I get combined 4 weeks of PTO, that's combined annual leave and sick leave. Most civil servants with my level of experience get six weeks of annual leave, plus one week of sick leave. In other words, you get three weeks paid leave more than I do PER YEAR. Your benefits package is much better. Your TSP is significantly better than my 401K. Your employer, the US government puts in a lot more money into your TSP than my employer does. Over the course of 10 years, not even your full career in the civil service, you will more than make up the difference in our pay inequity. You also have better long-term care, short-term disability, long-term disability benefits. You get much more excused absences than we do. When the government gives 2 hour or 4 hour early dismissal? Never includes contractors. You get the day after Thanksgiving or Christmas Eve excusal from the President? Never includes contractors. You get the majority of snow days. Most of us have to report to our contractor headquarters and still work. Your benefits are worth at least twice what our difference in pay is.

I have a lot of sympathy for most civil servants, but not you. You'll probably get furloughed, because karma is a bitch. Just like you.

x1000. Beautifully said. Thank you.

SO I am OP and as I mentioned when I started this thread. I received my furlough letter last week. ... Assuming I am ahead of the curve on Karma good luck to you biatches.

BTW if it's so great in our jobs why are you still contracting? Thats what I thought greedy guts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I'm sorry , as OP and a Fed who knows how much contractors make I don't give a rats ass about your layooff. I'm sure you all have had plenty of opportunities to come on board at our shitty pay scale but stayed your course. The outrageous billing of many of these companies is partly to blame for the money shortfall.

Wow, a Fed whose also a jacka$$. You're the reason so many non-feds hate civil servants. I make roughly 10-15% over what my civil servant counterparts make. Which nowhere NEAR makes up for all of the perks you civil servants get. I get combined 4 weeks of PTO, that's combined annual leave and sick leave. Most civil servants with my level of experience get six weeks of annual leave, plus one week of sick leave. In other words, you get three weeks paid leave more than I do PER YEAR. Your benefits package is much better. Your TSP is significantly better than my 401K. Your employer, the US government puts in a lot more money into your TSP than my employer does. Over the course of 10 years, not even your full career in the civil service, you will more than make up the difference in our pay inequity. You also have better long-term care, short-term disability, long-term disability benefits. You get much more excused absences than we do. When the government gives 2 hour or 4 hour early dismissal? Never includes contractors. You get the day after Thanksgiving or Christmas Eve excusal from the President? Never includes contractors. You get the majority of snow days. Most of us have to report to our contractor headquarters and still work. Your benefits are worth at least twice what our difference in pay is.

I have a lot of sympathy for most civil servants, but not you. You'll probably get furloughed, because karma is a bitch. Just like you.

You should probably go to a better company. Most have same or better than tsp- just sayin

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I'm sorry , as OP and a Fed who knows how much contractors make I don't give a rats ass about your layooff. I'm sure you all have had plenty of opportunities to come on board at our shitty pay scale but stayed your course. The outrageous billing of many of these companies is partly to blame for the money shortfall.

Wow, a Fed whose also a jacka$$. You're the reason so many non-feds hate civil servants. I make roughly 10-15% over what my civil servant counterparts make. Which nowhere NEAR makes up for all of the perks you civil servants get. I get combined 4 weeks of PTO, that's combined annual leave and sick leave. Most civil servants with my level of experience get six weeks of annual leave, plus one week of sick leave. In other words, you get three weeks paid leave more than I do PER YEAR. Your benefits package is much better. Your TSP is significantly better than my 401K. Your employer, the US government puts in a lot more money into your TSP than my employer does. Over the course of 10 years, not even your full career in the civil service, you will more than make up the difference in our pay inequity. You also have better long-term care, short-term disability, long-term disability benefits. You get much more excused absences than we do. When the government gives 2 hour or 4 hour early dismissal? Never includes contractors. You get the day after Thanksgiving or Christmas Eve excusal from the President? Never includes contractors. You get the majority of snow days. Most of us have to report to our contractor headquarters and still work. Your benefits are worth at least twice what our difference in pay is.

I have a lot of sympathy for most civil servants, but not you. You'll probably get furloughed, because karma is a bitch. Just like you.

You should probably go to a better company. Most have same or better than tsp- just sayin

(not the same PP and not a civil servant hater but) I SHOULD have moved to a better company a year or two ago when I saw the writing on the wall. Now my federal contractor employer is cutting benefits, I'm likely to be laid off later this month and friggin' nobody is hiring in my field. (shakes fist at sky)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sorry OP. I have not read all the posts but can someone explain exactly what a furlough is - for govt jobs.
My DH was furloughed in 2008 but he was private sector and for us it meant a 10% cut in pay. what exactly does it mean for GSers?

For people in DOD not in the wars, 20% paycut.

[Anonymous]

DOes anyone REALLY think the furlough will happen or is it all just bluster?

[Anonymous]

It is happening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is happening.

Really, when?

[Anonymous]

My agency is supposed to start our first furlough day on May 10th, but we aren't receiving our official notice until around April 10th.

[Anonymous]

May 10th? Oh come on, not a chance this crap will still be going on by then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:May 10th? Oh come on, not a chance this crap will still be going on by then.

Exactly why I find all this woe is me shit irritating. It's not even here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just got furlough letter. I am a democrat. I would like to say a big FUCK YOU VERY MUCH to:
The Hill AND the White House.

Friend, I understand. But by the same token the federal government has grown like crazy since 2001. Something has change.

Sincerely,

A Rust Belt survivor

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:May 10th? Oh come on, not a chance this crap will still be going on by then.

Exactly why I find all this woe is me shit irritating. It's not even here.

What kind of fantasy land are you people living in? Have you read the paper or listened to the news lately? Congress has made very clear that they have no intention of stopping the sequester. How exactly do you see this coming to an end by May?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:May 10th? Oh come on, not a chance this crap will still be going on by then.

Exactly why I find all this woe is me shit irritating. It's not even here.

What kind of fantasy land are you people living in? Have you read the paper or listened to the news lately? Congress has made very clear that they have no intention of stopping the sequester. How exactly do you see this coming to an end by May?

I agree. The only thing Congress seems to even be working on is the upcoming CR that ends on March 27th, and that doesn't deal at all with the sequestration mess. Other agencies that require more furlough days have already received their 30 days furlough notices.

[Anonymous]

I hope all of you not paying attention aren't actually feds. Congress just passed a bill that makes the sequester permanent. No going back on it now. Some agencies may find more money in the couch to cut down on furloughs, while others (like mine) or now realizing that they won't be able to avoid them as they had hoped.

[Anonymous]

All agencies are cutting corners in other ways. I predict we won't see a day of furlough for months (and maybe at all).