This is one troubled young man (James Holmes court appearance)

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Hitler was clearly crazy. If he had had been captured, should society have tried to rehabilitate him? Sometimes it is enough that the level of planning and methodology is so destructive that the act is just pure evil. That is enough for me.

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Anonymous wrote:I have that book next to my bed right now. I'm terrified to read it

I found it dull and boring. I'll wait for the movie on Redbox.

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If you will read, you will see that I said that I don't care if he is mentally ill. Crazy or not, kill him already. His sort of violent behavior contributes nothing to society. That POS killed 12 people, including a 6 y/o. I don't give a shit what his problem is, if he even has one.

I was responding to the posts, including yours that accuse him of faking it. Maybe he is - we really don't know. But earlier in the thread people were saying "how can you speculate about him being insane - you have no evidence" Well, you have no real evidence of him faking it either. It is ALL speculation, and your theory is no different than ours.

As for the obvious call for death penalty, fine. But I would like to point out that it is generally cheaper to taxpayers to keep someone in jail for the rest of their lives than to put someone on death row. Sure, he is a monster, but that doesn't change the financial aspect of the death penalty debate.

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Anonymous wrote:I think mass murder automatically defines you as crazy

well there are different kinds of "crazy" that people are mixing here.

For most people "crazy" are psychiatric diagnoses of schizophrenia and psychosis, but of course, as PPs pointed out, noone that kills scores of people is normal either. The people that do such things and are n the end not deemed insane still have personality disorders, often severe, antisocial, sociopaths etc. No conscience, no remorse is not normal.
But does the person know reality? That is the question.

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Anonymous wrote:Hitler was clearly crazy. If he had had been captured, should society have tried to rehabilitate him? Sometimes it is enough that the level of planning and methodology is so destructive that the act is just pure evil. That is enough for me.

prison for life with no chance of parole is not really about rehab.

but do you really want to get into a debate about rehabilitation, release and recidivism? That would be a fun tangent.

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Anonymous wrote:The pictures on the news looks like he's faking being out of it.

This +1000. I am ashamed of the impulse I would have if I were there would be to just beat him senseeless. I had the same implies about Andrew Cunanan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Cunanan a purely evil prick who killed himself and cheated the justice system. Holmes is spoiled garbage. His "crazy" affect looks completely fake.

Cunanan's case is totally different from this one TOTALLY.

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Anonymous wrote:

If you will read, you will see that I said that I don't care if he is mentally ill. Crazy or not, kill him already. His sort of violent behavior contributes nothing to society. That POS killed 12 people, including a 6 y/o. I don't give a shit what his problem is, if he even has one.

I was responding to the posts, including yours that accuse him of faking it. Maybe he is - we really don't know. But earlier in the thread people were saying "how can you speculate about him being insane - you have no evidence" Well, you have no real evidence of him faking it either. It is ALL speculation, and your theory is no different than ours.

As for the obvious call for death penalty, fine. But I would like to point out that it is generally cheaper to taxpayers to keep someone in jail for the rest of their lives than to put someone on death row. Sure, he is a monster, but that doesn't change the financial aspect of the death penalty debate.

Well, let's take up a collection, similar to the bullied bus monitor. I'm sure America can raise the funds to fry this piece of shit. I will not give this evil murderer the benefit of the doubt about anything. Until it's proven that he's crazy, he's nothing but a thug in my book.

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Denial is a coping mechanism.

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Anonymous wrote:I think mass murder automatically defines you as crazy

I agree- but rather than try to rehab him he had premeditated this and was quite competent in society- he basically should not get off on mental illness. IMO

not guilty by reason of insanity could get him put into an institution for the rest of his life.

And to answer another question, yes - the Columbine guys were cuckoo for cocoa puffs. It may have been more sociopath crazy, but they most definitely were insane.

The Columbine guys were not crazy. They were jerks who weren't popular and were pissed they they were always getting picked on. They were cruel and wanted to go out with a "bang". Can't believe what I'm reading here. Is denial also a mental illness?

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If he was / is psychotic and delusional, I cant imagine how one would come to grips with what they had done once medicated and brought back to reality. How do you cope with that?

And I agree that all most who commit heinous crimes have mental health problems but many mental health problems do not interfere with competency. Thinking may be distorted, emotional and behavioral regulation may be lacking but those people are still aware of reality and aware of the wrong of their actions. Psychosis is completely different.

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Well, let's take up a collection, similar to the bullied bus monitor. I'm sure America can raise the funds to fry this piece of shit. I will not give this evil murderer the benefit of the doubt about anything. Until it's proven that he's crazy, he's nothing but a thug in my book.

Oh, good. Bloodlust money. Let's have a telethon. Because things like child hunger and kids with no insurance can't get enough funds, but people will be moved to give to fry someone.

Sadly, they probably would...which is in turn what is wrong with this batshit crazy nation.

How does people giving money to off one monster make this country better, exactly? Get a grip, vigilante.

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Anonymous wrote:

Well, let's take up a collection, similar to the bullied bus monitor. I'm sure America can raise the funds to fry this piece of shit. I will not give this evil murderer the benefit of the doubt about anything. Until it's proven that he's crazy, he's nothing but a thug in my book.

Oh, good. Bloodlust money. Let's have a telethon. Because things like child hunger and kids with no insurance can't get enough funds, but people will be moved to give to fry someone.

Sadly, they probably would...which is in turn what is wrong with this batshit crazy nation.

How does people giving money to off one monster make this country better, exactly? Get a grip, vigilante.

Someone (perhaps you?) brought up the money issue. I provided a solution. What does child hunger and no insurance have to do with anything? Even better, what have you done to combat the problem? Stay on topic, dumbass.

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Someone (perhaps you?) brought up the money issue. I provided a solution. What does child hunger and no insurance have to do with anything? Even better, what have you done to combat the problem? Stay on topic, dumbass.

There are so many problems in this country and so many people suffering (why I provided examples of other charities that actually would help a large and vulnerable population), and you prefer to take up collections to carry out your eye for an eye justice? As I said, fine - you likely will get people to donate. But that just shows me that our priorities as a nation are completely fucked up.

As for what I have done (I assume you are asking what I have done to help vulnerable children) - write to congress to ask them not to be short sighted, donate to charity, volunteer. What about you?

As for what I plan to do about gun violence, I plan to start advocating for an assault weapons ban to be reinstated.

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I did bring up the money issue - it was just to shoot down the popular theory that it is cheaper to fry someone than keep them in jail for the rest of their lives. It is a punishment that keeps the dude off the streets.

I honestly didn't realize your rage went so far as to say "I want to fry him so bad, I'll pay the difference"

Seriously? YOU'RE ill.

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Anonymous wrote:I did bring up the money issue - it was just to shoot down the popular theory that it is cheaper to fry someone than keep them in jail for the rest of their lives. It is a punishment that keeps the dude off the streets.

I honestly didn't realize your rage went so far as to say "I want to fry him so bad, I'll pay the difference"

Seriously? YOU'RE ill.

You presented a problem; I provided a solution. Where did I say *I* will pay the difference? Cool it with the drama.

[Anonymous]

Why did he tell the police his apartment was booby trapped and killing more people?