What the heck is going on in Belfast?

[Anonymous]

Human nature is what it is. If the Irish were mass migrating to Khartoum for the benefits, and some engaged in brutal violence, like gouging out the eyes of locals, I'm pretty confident the Sudanese would demand an end to Irish emigration to Sudan.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know what this specific man’s claim of asylum was, but I do want to just say that there is a genocide going on in Sudan right now.

Really, really awful things are happening there that are very legit reasons for Sudanese to seek asylum.

Also want to point out that the UAE is funding the RSF who are committing the worst atrocities in Sudan. And the west, especially the US, turn a blind eye to the UAEs funding of these terrorists.

What does any of that have to do with Ireland?

Perhaps because > atrocities may = > asylum seekers?

Perhaps they should stop in the first safe country? Why come to Ireland?

There are 50 million people in Sudan. The island of Ireland has 7 million. How many people should Ireland offer asylum to?

It would be a fun exercise to qualify how much Ireland has benefited from being a member of the EU and partaking in the contributions of EU-based companies to its economy while the EU and EU-based companies were looting the Sudan.

We could then divide that number by how much the upkeep of a migrant costs per year to come up with how many migrants Ireland must take in.

I don't think you'd like to answer though. Much better to whine and play victim while your lifestyle is subsidized by theft from the very people you complain about.

You want them to go back where they came from, but why don't Europeans and Americans ever go back where they come from and get their fingers out of everyone else's pies?

Exploit the world, import the world.

Invade the world, import the world.

Prop up the Sudan's Islamist governments for decades by buying their oil and all the many resources Sudan exports, import the Sudanese when the edifice collapses.

Enable the UAE's genocide in Sudan by doing business with the UAE and welcoming there investments in your country, import the Sudanese who are fleeing the genocide.

You get it now?

Northern Ireland is not part of the EU. He went to Northern Ireland. Ireland is a separate country.

PP's post is 1000x more true as applied to the UK.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Human nature is what it is. If the Irish were mass migrating to Khartoum for the benefits, and some engaged in brutal violence, like gouging out the eyes of locals, I'm pretty confident the Sudanese would demand an end to Irish emigration to Sudan.

Exactly. Thank you.

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Anonymous wrote:The images emerging are really quite disturbing. Is this situation going to spread to nearby locations? Anyone have friends / family there for context??

Seems like another incident of far-right anti-immigration tactics stoked by Musk/X and bots.

POV: A Sudanese man is appropriately charged and detained after stabbing another man. No other details are given. Out come the anti-immigrants because how dare an immigrant harm one of us...only WE WHITE MEN are allowed to do the harming.

What’s your opinion of protests / riots in the US in 2020 regarding police brutality being stoked by Twitter, bots, and foreign governments like China and Russia?

Social media and bots are a scourge. So is the relentless killing of unarmed Black men and women. Violent protests have no place and Ill remind you that our own government stated that many of the violent protests had far-right agitators flaming the violence.

[url]https://www.counterterrorismgroup.com/post/threat-pattern-analysis-assessing-risks-of-protest-infiltrations[google]
[/url]https://www.congress.gov/116/meeting/house/110775/documents/HHRG-116-JU00-20200610-SD019.pdf[url]

The common thread I can find is the far-right.

Except the supposed epidemic of killings of unarmed black men by whites has been exposed as a hoax. There are lots of black men being killed, but the inconvenient truth is that the vast majority of the killers are other black men.

It's by cops and the state and I just want to be clear here. Are you saying that because black men kill other black men than anyone can kill a black man?
You don't think that it's different when a cop kills a black person then when to essentially peers kill each other?

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know what this specific man’s claim of asylum was, but I do want to just say that there is a genocide going on in Sudan right now.

Really, really awful things are happening there that are very legit reasons for Sudanese to seek asylum.

Also want to point out that the UAE is funding the RSF who are committing the worst atrocities in Sudan. And the west, especially the US, turn a blind eye to the UAEs funding of these terrorists.

What does any of that have to do with Ireland?

Perhaps because > atrocities may = > asylum seekers?

Perhaps they should stop in the first safe country? Why come to Ireland?

There are 50 million people in Sudan. The island of Ireland has 7 million. How many people should Ireland offer asylum to?

It would be a fun exercise to qualify how much Ireland has benefited from being a member of the EU and partaking in the contributions of EU-based companies to its economy while the EU and EU-based companies were looting the Sudan.

We could then divide that number by how much the upkeep of a migrant costs per year to come up with how many migrants Ireland must take in.

I don't think you'd like to answer though. Much better to whine and play victim while your lifestyle is subsidized by theft from the very people you complain about.

You want them to go back where they came from, but why don't Europeans and Americans ever go back where they come from and get their fingers out of everyone else's pies?

Exploit the world, import the world.

Invade the world, import the world.

Prop up the Sudan's Islamist governments for decades by buying their oil and all the many resources Sudan exports, import the Sudanese when the edifice collapses.

Enable the UAE's genocide in Sudan by doing business with the UAE and welcoming there investments in your country, import the Sudanese who are fleeing the genocide.

You get it now?

Narrator: “They will never get it.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We were in Belfast about a month ago. We found the local Belfast citizens to be exceptionally clannish.

It was tough for us to get a taxi driver to take us to a Protestant church on Sunday.
The driver we had told us that he normally did not drive on that side of town. He also made disparaging remarks about the union jacks that were flying at every block.

We were kind of clueless Americans but after a while figured out the situation.

I’ve never had a problem getting a taxi driver to drive us to church on Sunday any place in the world ever.

Uber is weird in Belfast too. Before we went to Belfast, I thought yay there is Uber in Belfast.
I think the Uber drivers just stay in there particular side of town. We could never get an Uber driver to show up but we could see them driving around.

Belfast has been open for tourism for the last 20 years, but there is a lot of local clannishness bubbling just below the surface.

The UK props up Belfast with a lot of money.

Gosh, I wonder why Irish taxi drivers in Belfast would be clannish???? My great grandfather (Irish) could not own land in Ireland until the mid-late 1800s. He and anyone Irish were treated like garbage by the English until the 1990s (and still today) so yeah, there’s can behavior. Does no one research a country before visiting anymore?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not fake news, very much real. Rioting stirred up on social media following a horrific crime.

First no coverage

Then grassroots coverage

Then link to Sikh immigrant murderer the week before

Then UK provided lame canned soup: we are tolerant and understanding people

Then musk shown a light on it

Apparently no one is responsible or accountable so that’s a big problem.

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Anonymous wrote:The images emerging are really quite disturbing. Is this situation going to spread to nearby locations? Anyone have friends / family there for context??

Seems like another incident of far-right anti-immigration tactics stoked by Musk/X and bots.

POV: A Sudanese man is appropriately charged and detained after stabbing another man. No other details are given. Out come the anti-immigrants because how dare an immigrant harm one of us...only WE WHITE MEN are allowed to do the harming.

Well, the Sudanese asylum seeker nearly beheaded the victim and gouged out his eyes. Not exactly the same as barroom brawl.

. Gross

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The video off murder of an english student recently didn't help. He was handcuffed while bleeding out while the police officers denied he was stabbed by an ethnic minority. The police were called because said person claimed they were verbally abused.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crlpyw05l75o

The government is trying to clamp down on these videos due to racial tensions.

Right so like I said all non-white people are an aggregate for the far-right. A Sudanese asylum refugee should be counted alongside a British Sikh non-immigrant.

When POC commit crimes its always tribal. They, them is the issue and there is seemingly no issue with using pronouns when denouncing them (he). When non-POC commit crimes its always bad egg, bad apple, troubled, MH issues, etc.

And I am sure Ill get the "its not about color/race" responses but apparently it is.

NP. The reason the white boy died was because the Sikh murderer falsely claimed racial abuse and the police believed him, not the dying boy who had been stabbed. That seems pretty squarely about race to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The video off murder of an english student recently didn't help. He was handcuffed while bleeding out while the police officers denied he was stabbed by an ethnic minority. The police were called because said person claimed they were verbally abused.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crlpyw05l75o

The government is trying to clamp down on these videos due to racial tensions.

Everyone community there needs to speak up and not condone violence. Have they?

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Anonymous wrote:The video off murder of an english student recently didn't help. He was handcuffed while bleeding out while the police officers denied he was stabbed by an ethnic minority. The police were called because said person claimed they were verbally abused.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crlpyw05l75o

The government is trying to clamp down on these videos due to racial tensions.

Right so like I said all non-white people are an aggregate for the far-right. A Sudanese asylum refugee should be counted alongside a British Sikh non-immigrant.

When POC commit crimes its always tribal. They, them is the issue and there is seemingly no issue with using pronouns when denouncing them (he). When non-POC commit crimes its always bad egg, bad apple, troubled, MH issues, etc.

And I am sure Ill get the "its not about color/race" responses but apparently it is.

Yes, the far right does that. However, the far left has blinders the other way.

You should know that the Sikh guy has almost universally been described as a bad egg, bad apple, troubled etc and the outrage has been focused on the police treating his family's lies as truths which led to them treating the dying victim as the perpetrator. The racist aspect of the stabbing itself has been downplayed.

Life does not fit into our neat assumptions.

Correct, by his own family and Sikh community.
However, posters here and other news reports are lumping them together as what has fueled this anti-immigrant protesting. These are seen as cumulative events in the far-right because its (mostly) POC, regardless of immigration status.

This is about the far right scapegoating immigrants and POC.
"Grievances over poor housing conditions and housing shortages, in particular, have been used to scapegoat migrants and to favour a narrative of “mass uncontrolled migration that simply is not factually true”, Holder said.

The CAJ report, he said, found no clear correlation between the areas where violence has flared up in Northern Ireland since 2023 and poverty rates or high immigration rates.

“When you look at the pattern of where attacks are taking place, they’re not in the most deprived areas,” Holder said. “What this points to is that attacks involve particular far-right elements, including some elements of loyalist paramilitary organisations, rather than this being tied to either migration levels or deprivation.”"
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6/13/why-have-anti-immigration-riots-broken-out-in-northern-ireland- Yes, from last year but again, multiple articles about this stabbing reference the Sikh stabbing and the attempted sexual assault by Romanian refugees.

The discontent is rationale. No one wants stabbings or rape/assault. But the far right are flaming the fires and turning protests violent just like they did in the US with BBM.

So the answer to the topic question is: Racial and xenophobia by the far right is what the heck is going on in Belfast and its going on here too! See JD Vance about Nowak
"Henry Nowak died the same way a civilisation dies: Abandoned, handcuffed by authorities who neither trusted nor cared for him, and accused of hate crimes he did not commit.
"His murder is as tragic as it is enraging.

"He should still be alive today, and he would be if the last few generations of European elites had stood their ground against the politics of self-hatred and the mass invasion of migrants, many of whom despise the West and the people who love it"

I don't care about JD Vance. He is a disengenuous idiot. This isn't a partisan incident and yet you're falling into that trap because the right is complaining about it. Why is the mainstream left ceding the moral high ground to the far right?

The police handcuffed a dying man and ignored his pleas of "I can't breathe" because his murderer lied about racism. The details are horrific, the police did everything wrong and the murderer and his family are despicable humans. It's ok to say that.

The murderers family are despicable humans? Wow.

DP. Based on the facts that came out in the trial and their own behavior at the trial, it is quite accurate to call the murderer’s family “despicable.” They are the definition of despicable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The video off murder of an english student recently didn't help. He was handcuffed while bleeding out while the police officers denied he was stabbed by an ethnic minority. The police were called because said person claimed they were verbally abused.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crlpyw05l75o

The government is trying to clamp down on these videos due to racial tensions.

Right so like I said all non-white people are an aggregate for the far-right. A Sudanese asylum refugee should be counted alongside a British Sikh non-immigrant.

When POC commit crimes its always tribal. They, them is the issue and there is seemingly no issue with using pronouns when denouncing them (he). When non-POC commit crimes its always bad egg, bad apple, troubled, MH issues, etc.

And I am sure Ill get the "its not about color/race" responses but apparently it is.

NP. The reason the white boy died was because the Sikh murderer falsely claimed racial abuse and the police believed him, not the dying boy who had been stabbed. That seems pretty squarely about race to me.

How clever, kill someone in cold blood and reverse victim deflect when the police come.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Human nature is what it is. If the Irish were mass migrating to Khartoum for the benefits, and some engaged in brutal violence, like gouging out the eyes of locals, I'm pretty confident the Sudanese would demand an end to Irish emigration to Sudan.

Probably do something much worse first.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The video off murder of an english student recently didn't help. He was handcuffed while bleeding out while the police officers denied he was stabbed by an ethnic minority. The police were called because said person claimed they were verbally abused.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crlpyw05l75o

The government is trying to clamp down on these videos due to racial tensions.

Right so like I said all non-white people are an aggregate for the far-right. A Sudanese asylum refugee should be counted alongside a British Sikh non-immigrant.

When POC commit crimes its always tribal. They, them is the issue and there is seemingly no issue with using pronouns when denouncing them (he). When non-POC commit crimes its always bad egg, bad apple, troubled, MH issues, etc.

And I am sure Ill get the "its not about color/race" responses but apparently it is.

NP. The reason the white boy died was because the Sikh murderer falsely claimed racial abuse and the police believed him, not the dying boy who had been stabbed. That seems pretty squarely about race to me.

How clever, kill someone in cold blood and reverse victim deflect when the police come.

It gets worse. The neighbors heard his cries and called police and they wouldn’t come. The murderer called claiming racial abuse and then they came. Policing in the UK has gone around the bend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The video off murder of an english student recently didn't help. He was handcuffed while bleeding out while the police officers denied he was stabbed by an ethnic minority. The police were called because said person claimed they were verbally abused.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crlpyw05l75o

The government is trying to clamp down on these videos due to racial tensions.

Right so like I said all non-white people are an aggregate for the far-right. A Sudanese asylum refugee should be counted alongside a British Sikh non-immigrant.

When POC commit crimes its always tribal. They, them is the issue and there is seemingly no issue with using pronouns when denouncing them (he). When non-POC commit crimes its always bad egg, bad apple, troubled, MH issues, etc.

And I am sure Ill get the "its not about color/race" responses but apparently it is.

NP. The reason the white boy died was because the Sikh murderer falsely claimed racial abuse and the police believed him, not the dying boy who had been stabbed. That seems pretty squarely about race to me.

The interesting part to me is that this other UK case, the one in England not Northern Ireland, seems to have documentation directing UK police how to engage people based on perceived cultural background. If that is true, that’s a huge for the police department.