TJ Seniors - not allowed to walk at graduation

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's fine to scare future parents/students ... TJ may not let you participate in graduation if you don't fulfill TJ graduation requirements.

I would hope next year and going forward, TJ would actually not allow the student to participate in graduation.

Why? This is not a private school, but a public one. These people are graduating from a public school with a state-issued diploma. Why are you so determined to be vengeful on teenagers? Are you worried that someone might think your precious has the stink on them if you don’t obviously humiliate other kids who are still high school graduates?

Especially for the TJ kids, high school graduation is just a stepping stone to other things. I get when I read posts on national Facebook groups of the people going absolutely nuts over high school graduation and realize for some of these kids this may be the pinnacle of their academic achievement and this might be the best they will ever do, and may be the only time other than when they get married that they will have some kind of public event in their honor.

The real world doesn’t care that your kid went to TJ.

These kids will be graduating at the bottom of the class. They were small fish in a big pond. They would have been better served elsewhere, so why did they want to go there?

They went. Maybe it was the hard grading teacher, maybe they hit a wall with calculus. Maybe they got much further than they would have in their home school because more was asked of them. I still don’t get the nastiness towards these kids.

Nobody hates these kids, we pity them. We are angry with FCPS board for using these kids as props in their diversity virtue signalling and we should do our best to prevent kids finding themselves in this situation going forward.

How is it any of your concern if it’s not your child? Why are you pitying anyone? And are you SURE they’re all the poor/non-Asian ones? You certainly seem to be doing the opposite of virtue signaling.

Your side trots out tax dollars as the reason we should include people from every middle school. Can I trot out the waste of tax dollars as a reason to create a minimum level of objectively demonstrated proficiency for admission?

They may not be my kids but they are somebody's kids and those parents were deceived. They were encouraged to send their unprepared kids to TJ because FCPS wanted their skin. They were encouraged to believe their kids could handle it, when in fact nobody had any idea whether or not they could. Then when their kids floundered, Bonitatibus reassured these families that remedial courses and extra support would get them through because she didn't want to admit that the scheme didn't work. And here we are with these kids failing math in their senior year. at a stem school.

And yes, for the most part the failing kids are who you would expect them to be. Kids that never took the Iowa test and took geometry as freshmen. The last test of cognitive ability they took before admission to TJ was was the COGAT in elementary. But that's not the point. The point is that they were admitted in pursuit of skin color diversity. White admits increased too and it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of unqualified white and asian kids got in as well. But ALL of the unqualified kids got in as a result of the pursuit of skin color.

How do you know who these particular kids are? Is there a list of names and bios of the kids somewhere?

Yes, is mostly the kids taking geometry as freshmen. And we know that some of them are struggling.

How do you know the names of these kids? Is there a list somewhere?

Or are you just going by gossip from kids or parents and assuming you know?

WTF are you talking about?

The kids taking calculus as seniors are mostly the ones that took geometry as freshmen.

We know which schools they come from.

We know how many return. Kids return to almost all schools but especially to those schools.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's fine to scare future parents/students ... TJ may not let you participate in graduation if you don't fulfill TJ graduation requirements.

I would hope next year and going forward, TJ would actually not allow the student to participate in graduation.

Why? This is not a private school, but a public one. These people are graduating from a public school with a state-issued diploma. Why are you so determined to be vengeful on teenagers? Are you worried that someone might think your precious has the stink on them if you don’t obviously humiliate other kids who are still high school graduates?

Especially for the TJ kids, high school graduation is just a stepping stone to other things. I get when I read posts on national Facebook groups of the people going absolutely nuts over high school graduation and realize for some of these kids this may be the pinnacle of their academic achievement and this might be the best they will ever do, and may be the only time other than when they get married that they will have some kind of public event in their honor.

The real world doesn’t care that your kid went to TJ.

These kids will be graduating at the bottom of the class. They were small fish in a big pond. They would have been better served elsewhere, so why did they want to go there?

They went. Maybe it was the hard grading teacher, maybe they hit a wall with calculus. Maybe they got much further than they would have in their home school because more was asked of them. I still don’t get the nastiness towards these kids.

Nobody hates these kids, we pity them. We are angry with FCPS board for using these kids as props in their diversity virtue signalling and we should do our best to prevent kids finding themselves in this situation going forward.

How is it any of your concern if it’s not your child? Why are you pitying anyone? And are you SURE they’re all the poor/non-Asian ones? You certainly seem to be doing the opposite of virtue signaling.

Your side trots out tax dollars as the reason we should include people from every middle school. Can I trot out the waste of tax dollars as a reason to create a minimum level of objectively demonstrated proficiency for admission?

They may not be my kids but they are somebody's kids and those parents were deceived. They were encouraged to send their unprepared kids to TJ because FCPS wanted their skin. They were encouraged to believe their kids could handle it, when in fact nobody had any idea whether or not they could. Then when their kids floundered, Bonitatibus reassured these families that remedial courses and extra support would get them through because she didn't want to admit that the scheme didn't work. And here we are with these kids failing math in their senior year. at a stem school.

And yes, for the most part the failing kids are who you would expect them to be. Kids that never took the Iowa test and took geometry as freshmen. The last test of cognitive ability they took before admission to TJ was was the COGAT in elementary. But that's not the point. The point is that they were admitted in pursuit of skin color diversity. White admits increased too and it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of unqualified white and asian kids got in as well. But ALL of the unqualified kids got in as a result of the pursuit of skin color.

How do you know who these particular kids are? Is there a list of names and bios of the kids somewhere?

Yes, is mostly the kids taking geometry as freshmen. And we know that some of them are struggling.

How do you know the names of these kids? Is there a list somewhere?

Or are you just going by gossip from kids or parents and assuming you know?

Progression of math -

Algebra 1 8th
Geometry 9th
Algebra 2 10th
Precalc- 11th
Calculus - 12th

Students who entered the school already having taking Geometry, Algebra 2, or higher would have already completed Calculus before 12th grade.

The students discuss their grades and know a lot of the kids who won’t be back next year. For the most part, its the kids who entered with only Algebra I prior to TJ that are struggling and won’t be back. Mukai said that he is looking forward to welcoming a lot of froshmores next year (meaning a lot of current freshmen won’t be back).

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's fine to scare future parents/students ... TJ may not let you participate in graduation if you don't fulfill TJ graduation requirements.

I would hope next year and going forward, TJ would actually not allow the student to participate in graduation.

Why? This is not a private school, but a public one. These people are graduating from a public school with a state-issued diploma. Why are you so determined to be vengeful on teenagers? Are you worried that someone might think your precious has the stink on them if you don’t obviously humiliate other kids who are still high school graduates?

Especially for the TJ kids, high school graduation is just a stepping stone to other things. I get when I read posts on national Facebook groups of the people going absolutely nuts over high school graduation and realize for some of these kids this may be the pinnacle of their academic achievement and this might be the best they will ever do, and may be the only time other than when they get married that they will have some kind of public event in their honor.

The real world doesn’t care that your kid went to TJ.

These kids will be graduating at the bottom of the class. They were small fish in a big pond. They would have been better served elsewhere, so why did they want to go there?

They went. Maybe it was the hard grading teacher, maybe they hit a wall with calculus. Maybe they got much further than they would have in their home school because more was asked of them. I still don’t get the nastiness towards these kids.

Nobody hates these kids, we pity them. We are angry with FCPS board for using these kids as props in their diversity virtue signalling and we should do our best to prevent kids finding themselves in this situation going forward.

How is it any of your concern if it’s not your child? Why are you pitying anyone? And are you SURE they’re all the poor/non-Asian ones? You certainly seem to be doing the opposite of virtue signaling.

Your side trots out tax dollars as the reason we should include people from every middle school. Can I trot out the waste of tax dollars as a reason to create a minimum level of objectively demonstrated proficiency for admission?

They may not be my kids but they are somebody's kids and those parents were deceived. They were encouraged to send their unprepared kids to TJ because FCPS wanted their skin. They were encouraged to believe their kids could handle it, when in fact nobody had any idea whether or not they could. Then when their kids floundered, Bonitatibus reassured these families that remedial courses and extra support would get them through because she didn't want to admit that the scheme didn't work. And here we are with these kids failing math in their senior year. at a stem school.

And yes, for the most part the failing kids are who you would expect them to be. Kids that never took the Iowa test and took geometry as freshmen. The last test of cognitive ability they took before admission to TJ was was the COGAT in elementary. But that's not the point. The point is that they were admitted in pursuit of skin color diversity. White admits increased too and it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of unqualified white and asian kids got in as well. But ALL of the unqualified kids got in as a result of the pursuit of skin color.

How do you know who these particular kids are? Is there a list of names and bios of the kids somewhere?

Yes, is mostly the kids taking geometry as freshmen. And we know that some of them are struggling.

How do you know the names of these kids? Is there a list somewhere?

Or are you just going by gossip from kids or parents and assuming you know?

WTF are you talking about?

The kids taking calculus as seniors are mostly the ones that took geometry as freshmen.

We know which schools they come from.

We know how many return. Kids return to almost all schools but especially to those schools.

So you are making assumptions. Got it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's a ridiculous, elitist rule that Mukai decided to enforce. At any other high school, it doesn't matter if a student graduates with a standard or advanced diploma, they get to participate in the graduation ceremony.

TJ is not like any other school. If they can't take advantage of the opportunities offered by TJ, they should have transferred out to a school that better suits them and make room for students who can take advantage of TJ's opportunities.

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Anonymous wrote:It's a ridiculous, elitist rule that Mukai decided to enforce. At any other high school, it doesn't matter if a student graduates with a standard or advanced diploma, they get to participate in the graduation ceremony.

Because everyone deserves a trophy?

If a student met the requirements to graduate, they should participate in the graduation ceremony. Very simple.

OK, they can have their own section for an advanced diploma instead of the TJ diploma. They didn’t meet the same requirements as everyone else.

They meet the requirements to graduate high school in a public school in Virginia, which TJ is. It is paid for with my tax dollars. If they do not graduate with the TJ endorsement, okay, but they have still earned a Virginia diploma, and probably an Advanced diploma (presuming their four years of math were met with eighth grade credits) and certainly a Standard diploma. The idea that they want to shame teenagers to make someone else feel good and even more superior than they think they are in their heads is disgusting. Holding back walking may be appropriate for kids who will not graduate at all.

You've made a reasonable argument for why they should be allowed to graduate from hs, but a terrible argument for why they should be allowed to walk specifically at TJ despite not meeting TJ's graduation requirements.

The point of a standard to determine who walks and who doesn't isn't to shame the students who failed, but to give the students who walk something to be proud of. If everyone walks, there's no value in it.

[Anonymous]

Are there any areas in FCPS where a sufficiently gifted/motivated student wouldn't be able to take algebra in 7th and geometry in 8th due to it not being an option? If not, why doesn't TJ require it?

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Anonymous wrote:Are there any areas in FCPS where a sufficiently gifted/motivated student wouldn't be able to take algebra in 7th and geometry in 8th due to it not being an option? If not, why doesn't TJ require it?

I said we know, not we assume.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's fine to scare future parents/students ... TJ may not let you participate in graduation if you don't fulfill TJ graduation requirements.

I would hope next year and going forward, TJ would actually not allow the student to participate in graduation.

Why? This is not a private school, but a public one. These people are graduating from a public school with a state-issued diploma. Why are you so determined to be vengeful on teenagers? Are you worried that someone might think your precious has the stink on them if you don’t obviously humiliate other kids who are still high school graduates?

Especially for the TJ kids, high school graduation is just a stepping stone to other things. I get when I read posts on national Facebook groups of the people going absolutely nuts over high school graduation and realize for some of these kids this may be the pinnacle of their academic achievement and this might be the best they will ever do, and may be the only time other than when they get married that they will have some kind of public event in their honor.

The real world doesn’t care that your kid went to TJ.

These kids will be graduating at the bottom of the class. They were small fish in a big pond. They would have been better served elsewhere, so why did they want to go there?

They went. Maybe it was the hard grading teacher, maybe they hit a wall with calculus. Maybe they got much further than they would have in their home school because more was asked of them. I still don’t get the nastiness towards these kids.

Nobody hates these kids, we pity them. We are angry with FCPS board for using these kids as props in their diversity virtue signalling and we should do our best to prevent kids finding themselves in this situation going forward.

How is it any of your concern if it’s not your child? Why are you pitying anyone? And are you SURE they’re all the poor/non-Asian ones? You certainly seem to be doing the opposite of virtue signaling.

Your side trots out tax dollars as the reason we should include people from every middle school. Can I trot out the waste of tax dollars as a reason to create a minimum level of objectively demonstrated proficiency for admission?

They may not be my kids but they are somebody's kids and those parents were deceived. They were encouraged to send their unprepared kids to TJ because FCPS wanted their skin. They were encouraged to believe their kids could handle it, when in fact nobody had any idea whether or not they could. Then when their kids floundered, Bonitatibus reassured these families that remedial courses and extra support would get them through because she didn't want to admit that the scheme didn't work. And here we are with these kids failing math in their senior year. at a stem school.

And yes, for the most part the failing kids are who you would expect them to be. Kids that never took the Iowa test and took geometry as freshmen. The last test of cognitive ability they took before admission to TJ was was the COGAT in elementary. But that's not the point. The point is that they were admitted in pursuit of skin color diversity. White admits increased too and it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of unqualified white and asian kids got in as well. But ALL of the unqualified kids got in as a result of the pursuit of skin color.

How do you know who these particular kids are? Is there a list of names and bios of the kids somewhere?

Yes, is mostly the kids taking geometry as freshmen. And we know that some of them are struggling.

How do you know the names of these kids? Is there a list somewhere?

Or are you just going by gossip from kids or parents and assuming you know?

WTF are you talking about?

The kids taking calculus as seniors are mostly the ones that took geometry as freshmen.

We know which schools they come from.

We know how many return. Kids return to almost all schools but especially to those schools.

So you are making assumptions. Got it.

Ooops meant to reply to this one.

I said we know, not we assume.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are there any areas in FCPS where a sufficiently gifted/motivated student wouldn't be able to take algebra in 7th and geometry in 8th due to it not being an option? If not, why doesn't TJ require it?

When FCPS gatekept 7th grade Algebra I, in theory there could be a gifted/motivated kid who was feeling sick on the day of the IAAT, missed the cutoff by a small margin, and then wasn't allowed to appeal their way into 7th grade algebra at their middle school. One could argue that it's pretty dumb to sacrifice standards in the hopes of catching one or two unicorns. At the very least, if the kids in that situation truly are math gifted and had some bad luck, FCPS could have easily required completion of summer geometry after 8th before starting in algebra II at TJ.

Now, it's a moot point since any reasonably bright kid can take Algebra I in 7th.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's fine to scare future parents/students ... TJ may not let you participate in graduation if you don't fulfill TJ graduation requirements.

I would hope next year and going forward, TJ would actually not allow the student to participate in graduation.

Why? This is not a private school, but a public one. These people are graduating from a public school with a state-issued diploma. Why are you so determined to be vengeful on teenagers? Are you worried that someone might think your precious has the stink on them if you don’t obviously humiliate other kids who are still high school graduates?

Especially for the TJ kids, high school graduation is just a stepping stone to other things. I get when I read posts on national Facebook groups of the people going absolutely nuts over high school graduation and realize for some of these kids this may be the pinnacle of their academic achievement and this might be the best they will ever do, and may be the only time other than when they get married that they will have some kind of public event in their honor.

The real world doesn’t care that your kid went to TJ.

These kids will be graduating at the bottom of the class. They were small fish in a big pond. They would have been better served elsewhere, so why did they want to go there?

They went. Maybe it was the hard grading teacher, maybe they hit a wall with calculus. Maybe they got much further than they would have in their home school because more was asked of them. I still don’t get the nastiness towards these kids.

Nobody hates these kids, we pity them. We are angry with FCPS board for using these kids as props in their diversity virtue signalling and we should do our best to prevent kids finding themselves in this situation going forward.

How is it any of your concern if it’s not your child? Why are you pitying anyone? And are you SURE they’re all the poor/non-Asian ones? You certainly seem to be doing the opposite of virtue signaling.

Your side trots out tax dollars as the reason we should include people from every middle school. Can I trot out the waste of tax dollars as a reason to create a minimum level of objectively demonstrated proficiency for admission?

They may not be my kids but they are somebody's kids and those parents were deceived. They were encouraged to send their unprepared kids to TJ because FCPS wanted their skin. They were encouraged to believe their kids could handle it, when in fact nobody had any idea whether or not they could. Then when their kids floundered, Bonitatibus reassured these families that remedial courses and extra support would get them through because she didn't want to admit that the scheme didn't work. And here we are with these kids failing math in their senior year. at a stem school.

And yes, for the most part the failing kids are who you would expect them to be. Kids that never took the Iowa test and took geometry as freshmen. The last test of cognitive ability they took before admission to TJ was was the COGAT in elementary. But that's not the point. The point is that they were admitted in pursuit of skin color diversity. White admits increased too and it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of unqualified white and asian kids got in as well. But ALL of the unqualified kids got in as a result of the pursuit of skin color.

How do you know who these particular kids are? Is there a list of names and bios of the kids somewhere?

Yes, is mostly the kids taking geometry as freshmen. And we know that some of them are struggling.

How do you know the names of these kids? Is there a list somewhere?

Or are you just going by gossip from kids or parents and assuming you know?

WTF are you talking about?

The kids taking calculus as seniors are mostly the ones that took geometry as freshmen.

We know which schools they come from.

We know how many return. Kids return to almost all schools but especially to those schools.

So you are making assumptions. Got it.

Ooops meant to reply to this one.

I said we know, not we assume.

You sad you know various facts about various groups of kids, but you didn’t say you know who the specific kids were are talking about here are.

It very much sounds as though you are assuming you know who they are. If by some chance you happen to actually know the specific kids involved in this situation, it is extremely inappropriate for you to be talking about them here in this manner.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's fine to scare future parents/students ... TJ may not let you participate in graduation if you don't fulfill TJ graduation requirements.

I would hope next year and going forward, TJ would actually not allow the student to participate in graduation.

Why? This is not a private school, but a public one. These people are graduating from a public school with a state-issued diploma. Why are you so determined to be vengeful on teenagers? Are you worried that someone might think your precious has the stink on them if you don’t obviously humiliate other kids who are still high school graduates?

Especially for the TJ kids, high school graduation is just a stepping stone to other things. I get when I read posts on national Facebook groups of the people going absolutely nuts over high school graduation and realize for some of these kids this may be the pinnacle of their academic achievement and this might be the best they will ever do, and may be the only time other than when they get married that they will have some kind of public event in their honor.

The real world doesn’t care that your kid went to TJ.

These kids will be graduating at the bottom of the class. They were small fish in a big pond. They would have been better served elsewhere, so why did they want to go there?

They went. Maybe it was the hard grading teacher, maybe they hit a wall with calculus. Maybe they got much further than they would have in their home school because more was asked of them. I still don’t get the nastiness towards these kids.

Nobody hates these kids, we pity them. We are angry with FCPS board for using these kids as props in their diversity virtue signalling and we should do our best to prevent kids finding themselves in this situation going forward.

How is it any of your concern if it’s not your child? Why are you pitying anyone? And are you SURE they’re all the poor/non-Asian ones? You certainly seem to be doing the opposite of virtue signaling.

Your side trots out tax dollars as the reason we should include people from every middle school. Can I trot out the waste of tax dollars as a reason to create a minimum level of objectively demonstrated proficiency for admission?

They may not be my kids but they are somebody's kids and those parents were deceived. They were encouraged to send their unprepared kids to TJ because FCPS wanted their skin. They were encouraged to believe their kids could handle it, when in fact nobody had any idea whether or not they could. Then when their kids floundered, Bonitatibus reassured these families that remedial courses and extra support would get them through because she didn't want to admit that the scheme didn't work. And here we are with these kids failing math in their senior year. at a stem school.

And yes, for the most part the failing kids are who you would expect them to be. Kids that never took the Iowa test and took geometry as freshmen. The last test of cognitive ability they took before admission to TJ was was the COGAT in elementary. But that's not the point. The point is that they were admitted in pursuit of skin color diversity. White admits increased too and it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of unqualified white and asian kids got in as well. But ALL of the unqualified kids got in as a result of the pursuit of skin color.

How do you know who these particular kids are? Is there a list of names and bios of the kids somewhere?

Yes, is mostly the kids taking geometry as freshmen. And we know that some of them are struggling.

How do you know the names of these kids? Is there a list somewhere?

Or are you just going by gossip from kids or parents and assuming you know?

WTF are you talking about?

The kids taking calculus as seniors are mostly the ones that took geometry as freshmen.

We know which schools they come from.

We know how many return. Kids return to almost all schools but especially to those schools.

So you are making assumptions. Got it.

Ooops meant to reply to this one.

I said we know, not we assume.

You sad you know various facts about various groups of kids, but you didn’t say you know who the specific kids were are talking about here are.

It very much sounds as though you are assuming you know who they are. If by some chance you happen to actually know the specific kids involved in this situation, it is extremely inappropriate for you to be talking about them here in this manner.

Wow, should have proofread. Fixing it here:

You said you know various facts about various groups of kids, but you didn’t say you know who the specific kids being talked about here are.

It very much sounds as though you are assuming you know who they are. If by some chance you happen to actually know the specific kids involved in this situation, it is extremely inappropriate for you to be talking about them here in this manner.

[Anonymous]

If anyone had bothered to read what OP posted, they would know the two students filed an appeal and were allowed to walk.

“Critical Next Step: If you wish to request an exemption so that [redacted Jefferson student name] may participate and walk with their class in the TJHSST graduation ceremony, you must submit a formal written request immediately via email to the Director of Student Services, Sara Wright, at [e-mail],” the letter says.

Both students we contacted asked for an exemption from Ms. Wright and were approved, and will be allowed to walk at graduation.

[Anonymous]

I couldn't walk the Golden Globe 2026 red carpet. So unfair. Is there any way I can appeal?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I couldn't walk the Golden Globe 2026 red carpet. So unfair. Is there any way I can appeal?

Swing and a miss.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's fine to scare future parents/students ... TJ may not let you participate in graduation if you don't fulfill TJ graduation requirements.

I would hope next year and going forward, TJ would actually not allow the student to participate in graduation.

Why? This is not a private school, but a public one. These people are graduating from a public school with a state-issued diploma. Why are you so determined to be vengeful on teenagers? Are you worried that someone might think your precious has the stink on them if you don’t obviously humiliate other kids who are still high school graduates?

Especially for the TJ kids, high school graduation is just a stepping stone to other things. I get when I read posts on national Facebook groups of the people going absolutely nuts over high school graduation and realize for some of these kids this may be the pinnacle of their academic achievement and this might be the best they will ever do, and may be the only time other than when they get married that they will have some kind of public event in their honor.

The real world doesn’t care that your kid went to TJ.

These kids will be graduating at the bottom of the class. They were small fish in a big pond. They would have been better served elsewhere, so why did they want to go there?

They went. Maybe it was the hard grading teacher, maybe they hit a wall with calculus. Maybe they got much further than they would have in their home school because more was asked of them. I still don’t get the nastiness towards these kids.

Nobody hates these kids, we pity them. We are angry with FCPS board for using these kids as props in their diversity virtue signalling and we should do our best to prevent kids finding themselves in this situation going forward.

How is it any of your concern if it’s not your child? Why are you pitying anyone? And are you SURE they’re all the poor/non-Asian ones? You certainly seem to be doing the opposite of virtue signaling.

Your side trots out tax dollars as the reason we should include people from every middle school. Can I trot out the waste of tax dollars as a reason to create a minimum level of objectively demonstrated proficiency for admission?

They may not be my kids but they are somebody's kids and those parents were deceived. They were encouraged to send their unprepared kids to TJ because FCPS wanted their skin. They were encouraged to believe their kids could handle it, when in fact nobody had any idea whether or not they could. Then when their kids floundered, Bonitatibus reassured these families that remedial courses and extra support would get them through because she didn't want to admit that the scheme didn't work. And here we are with these kids failing math in their senior year. at a stem school.

And yes, for the most part the failing kids are who you would expect them to be. Kids that never took the Iowa test and took geometry as freshmen. The last test of cognitive ability they took before admission to TJ was was the COGAT in elementary. But that's not the point. The point is that they were admitted in pursuit of skin color diversity. White admits increased too and it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of unqualified white and asian kids got in as well. But ALL of the unqualified kids got in as a result of the pursuit of skin color.

How do you know who these particular kids are? Is there a list of names and bios of the kids somewhere?

Yes, is mostly the kids taking geometry as freshmen. And we know that some of them are struggling.

How do you know the names of these kids? Is there a list somewhere?

Or are you just going by gossip from kids or parents and assuming you know?

WTF are you talking about?

The kids taking calculus as seniors are mostly the ones that took geometry as freshmen.

We know which schools they come from.

We know how many return. Kids return to almost all schools but especially to those schools.

So you are making assumptions. Got it.

Ooops meant to reply to this one.

I said we know, not we assume.

You sad you know various facts about various groups of kids, but you didn’t say you know who the specific kids were are talking about here are.

It very much sounds as though you are assuming you know who they are. If by some chance you happen to actually know the specific kids involved in this situation, it is extremely inappropriate for you to be talking about them here in this manner.

Why would I need to know the specific kid?