Errors in the new MCPS program website

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Anonymous wrote:Wanna have some fun? Look through the new regional program website for all the errors MCPS didn't catch before taking it live. My favorite is the front page on the button for regions where they left template text in so it says "This is a wider card with supporting text below as a natural lead-in to additional content. This card has even longer content than the first to show that equal height action."

"AP Enrollment in Music Theory junior year" is another good one.



https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/regional-programs-and-themes/program-themes/

Wow. The M.ad M.omm.ies of M.oC.o are really deranged. Imagine being so unbalanced that you would post something like this and expect people to guffaw knowingly.

You’re replying on Page 5 of the thread so…

Taylor and crew just got into work. They had a tough day yesterday getting berated at the Council. Attacking parents is how he relieves stress.

They were berated by the Council? Oh I've got to watch that.

So MCPS and Board President Grace Rivera-Oven had to defend their CIP to the Council. Watching now to see how hard the Council went in on them.

Ok. So the confrontational part seemed to start when Friedson challenged Taylor on whether he'd been transparent and engaged with the public about the relocation of the bus sites.

Taylor looked like he wanted to get up and punch Friedson. He was very spicy and feisty. Essie appeared flustered as she always does. What a horrible chief of staff pick.

If Friedson were to become County Exec, it'd be interesting to see how he and Taylor would work together....

I can see why Taylor would be irritated as MCPS is trying to find places for the bus depot because the Council wants the land the current depot is on for developers. Maybe Taylor was expecting them to back him up on this since they are the ones that want the bus depot moved.

I don't know much about the sites Taylor is proposing, but I agree with the councilmembers that it was weird for Taylor to propose such sites without real outreach to the impacted communities. I might be wrong, but I do not think I am allowed to lease my house's driveway to a taxi company because my property is a residential property. Changing a site that was intended to be for a school to a bus depot seems like a pretty significant change in the use of the property. Maybe our zoning ordinance allows this. But it seems like kind of a dick move.

And I thought his response to the concerns about community outreach was really dismissive and dishonest. I'm looking at the BOE's adopted CIP now and it is quite hard to identify where the sites are (they aren't even listed in the Superintendent's CIP or in the Project Description Form - just in a table called: Expected Facility Use Schedule for Fiscal Years 2027-2032)

If the county council is annexing the land from MCPS, they should either pay out MCPS or find land, and pay for the new facilities. This is a county council issue, not MCPS.

One Montgomery County. It's everyone's issue and MCPS has a track record of not playing well with other county agencies.

Agree, but if this is MCPS land, they should say no, or sell it at a cost that they can purchase another property.

Where did you hear MCPS is donating the land to a developer? They aren't.

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Anonymous wrote:Wanna have some fun? Look through the new regional program website for all the errors MCPS didn't catch before taking it live. My favorite is the front page on the button for regions where they left template text in so it says "This is a wider card with supporting text below as a natural lead-in to additional content. This card has even longer content than the first to show that equal height action."

"AP Enrollment in Music Theory junior year" is another good one.



https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/regional-programs-and-themes/program-themes/

Wow. The M.ad M.omm.ies of M.oC.o are really deranged. Imagine being so unbalanced that you would post something like this and expect people to guffaw knowingly.

You’re replying on Page 5 of the thread so…

Taylor and crew just got into work. They had a tough day yesterday getting berated at the Council. Attacking parents is how he relieves stress.

They were berated by the Council? Oh I've got to watch that.

So MCPS and Board President Grace Rivera-Oven had to defend their CIP to the Council. Watching now to see how hard the Council went in on them.

Ok. So the confrontational part seemed to start when Friedson challenged Taylor on whether he'd been transparent and engaged with the public about the relocation of the bus sites.

Taylor looked like he wanted to get up and punch Friedson. He was very spicy and feisty. Essie appeared flustered as she always does. What a horrible chief of staff pick.

If Friedson were to become County Exec, it'd be interesting to see how he and Taylor would work together....

I can see why Taylor would be irritated as MCPS is trying to find places for the bus depot because the Council wants the land the current depot is on for developers. Maybe Taylor was expecting them to back him up on this since they are the ones that want the bus depot moved.

I don't know much about the sites Taylor is proposing, but I agree with the councilmembers that it was weird for Taylor to propose such sites without real outreach to the impacted communities. I might be wrong, but I do not think I am allowed to lease my house's driveway to a taxi company because my property is a residential property. Changing a site that was intended to be for a school to a bus depot seems like a pretty significant change in the use of the property. Maybe our zoning ordinance allows this. But it seems like kind of a dick move.

And I thought his response to the concerns about community outreach was really dismissive and dishonest. I'm looking at the BOE's adopted CIP now and it is quite hard to identify where the sites are (they aren't even listed in the Superintendent's CIP or in the Project Description Form - just in a table called: Expected Facility Use Schedule for Fiscal Years 2027-2032)

Take a look at Parents' Coalition - Janis has done the research and identified the new bus sites.

As for Taylor not conducting community engagement on the new bus depots, well, that is how he operates on everything. The regional programming outreach was faux, with staff gaslighting the community on a regular basis.

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Anonymous wrote:Wanna have some fun? Look through the new regional program website for all the errors MCPS didn't catch before taking it live. My favorite is the front page on the button for regions where they left template text in so it says "This is a wider card with supporting text below as a natural lead-in to additional content. This card has even longer content than the first to show that equal height action."

"AP Enrollment in Music Theory junior year" is another good one.



https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/regional-programs-and-themes/program-themes/

Wow. The M.ad M.omm.ies of M.oC.o are really deranged. Imagine being so unbalanced that you would post something like this and expect people to guffaw knowingly.

You’re replying on Page 5 of the thread so…

Taylor and crew just got into work. They had a tough day yesterday getting berated at the Council. Attacking parents is how he relieves stress.

They were berated by the Council? Oh I've got to watch that.

So MCPS and Board President Grace Rivera-Oven had to defend their CIP to the Council. Watching now to see how hard the Council went in on them.

Ok. So the confrontational part seemed to start when Friedson challenged Taylor on whether he'd been transparent and engaged with the public about the relocation of the bus sites.

Taylor looked like he wanted to get up and punch Friedson. He was very spicy and feisty. Essie appeared flustered as she always does. What a horrible chief of staff pick.

If Friedson were to become County Exec, it'd be interesting to see how he and Taylor would work together....

I can see why Taylor would be irritated as MCPS is trying to find places for the bus depot because the Council wants the land the current depot is on for developers. Maybe Taylor was expecting them to back him up on this since they are the ones that want the bus depot moved.

I don't know much about the sites Taylor is proposing, but I agree with the councilmembers that it was weird for Taylor to propose such sites without real outreach to the impacted communities. I might be wrong, but I do not think I am allowed to lease my house's driveway to a taxi company because my property is a residential property. Changing a site that was intended to be for a school to a bus depot seems like a pretty significant change in the use of the property. Maybe our zoning ordinance allows this. But it seems like kind of a dick move.

And I thought his response to the concerns about community outreach was really dismissive and dishonest. I'm looking at the BOE's adopted CIP now and it is quite hard to identify where the sites are (they aren't even listed in the Superintendent's CIP or in the Project Description Form - just in a table called: Expected Facility Use Schedule for Fiscal Years 2027-2032)

If the county council is annexing the land from MCPS, they should either pay out MCPS or find land, and pay for the new facilities. This is a county council issue, not MCPS.

One Montgomery County. It's everyone's issue and MCPS has a track record of not playing well with other county agencies.

Agree, but if this is MCPS land, they should say no, or sell it at a cost that they can purchase another property.

The county has been trying to find a property for a bus depot for decades. As it turns out, the only place MoCo residents want a bus depot is called Nimby. You can guess where that is.

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Anonymous wrote:Wanna have some fun? Look through the new regional program website for all the errors MCPS didn't catch before taking it live. My favorite is the front page on the button for regions where they left template text in so it says "This is a wider card with supporting text below as a natural lead-in to additional content. This card has even longer content than the first to show that equal height action."

"AP Enrollment in Music Theory junior year" is another good one.



https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/regional-programs-and-themes/program-themes/

Wow. The M.ad M.omm.ies of M.oC.o are really deranged. Imagine being so unbalanced that you would post something like this and expect people to guffaw knowingly.

You’re replying on Page 5 of the thread so…

Taylor and crew just got into work. They had a tough day yesterday getting berated at the Council. Attacking parents is how he relieves stress.

They were berated by the Council? Oh I've got to watch that.

So MCPS and Board President Grace Rivera-Oven had to defend their CIP to the Council. Watching now to see how hard the Council went in on them.

Ok. So the confrontational part seemed to start when Friedson challenged Taylor on whether he'd been transparent and engaged with the public about the relocation of the bus sites.

Taylor looked like he wanted to get up and punch Friedson. He was very spicy and feisty. Essie appeared flustered as she always does. What a horrible chief of staff pick.

If Friedson were to become County Exec, it'd be interesting to see how he and Taylor would work together....

I can see why Taylor would be irritated as MCPS is trying to find places for the bus depot because the Council wants the land the current depot is on for developers. Maybe Taylor was expecting them to back him up on this since they are the ones that want the bus depot moved.

I don't know much about the sites Taylor is proposing, but I agree with the councilmembers that it was weird for Taylor to propose such sites without real outreach to the impacted communities. I might be wrong, but I do not think I am allowed to lease my house's driveway to a taxi company because my property is a residential property. Changing a site that was intended to be for a school to a bus depot seems like a pretty significant change in the use of the property. Maybe our zoning ordinance allows this. But it seems like kind of a dick move.

And I thought his response to the concerns about community outreach was really dismissive and dishonest. I'm looking at the BOE's adopted CIP now and it is quite hard to identify where the sites are (they aren't even listed in the Superintendent's CIP or in the Project Description Form - just in a table called: Expected Facility Use Schedule for Fiscal Years 2027-2032)

Take a look at Parents' Coalition - Janis has done the research and identified the new bus sites.

As for Taylor not conducting community engagement on the new bus depots, well, that is how he operates on everything. The regional programming outreach was faux, with staff gaslighting the community on a regular basis.

You lost me as soon as you cited Parents’ Coalition as a source. Also, it should be Parent’s Coalition. It’s a one-person shop.

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Anonymous wrote:can someone clarify whether a student has to select one of these programs? Can they enroll in their home school and take a variety of classes including APs but not specialize in anything?

For example, I think my kid would like a humanities program but Whitman is a treacherous commute. Could he just do humanities and AP english classes at Einstein?

Of course students can stay in their home schools and not specialize in anything. The majority of students will be like that.

The fact that people are confused about this shows just how bad MCPS comms are.

Thanks, I'm the poster of that question and felt gaslit that the answer wasn't on the MCPS website- the ParentVue/Email we got yesterday made it seem like you had to pick a program!

The email yesterday was incredibly confusing and did make it seem like everyone was supposed to pick a program like a Harry Potter sorting. Their comms are so unclear.

And yet the email also simultaneously made it sound like no one will have to leave their home school to be in their preferred programs. Do they not even proofread their AI-written emails anymore? "Students can choose to apply to a specialized pathway in areas, such as healthcare, technology, leadership, languages or the arts. Regardless of the pathway, students will continue to attend their home high school and take part in strong academics, athletics, arts and activities."

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Anonymous wrote:Wanna have some fun? Look through the new regional program website for all the errors MCPS didn't catch before taking it live. My favorite is the front page on the button for regions where they left template text in so it says "This is a wider card with supporting text below as a natural lead-in to additional content. This card has even longer content than the first to show that equal height action."

"AP Enrollment in Music Theory junior year" is another good one.



https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/regional-programs-and-themes/program-themes/

Wow. The M.ad M.omm.ies of M.oC.o are really deranged. Imagine being so unbalanced that you would post something like this and expect people to guffaw knowingly.

You’re replying on Page 5 of the thread so…

Taylor and crew just got into work. They had a tough day yesterday getting berated at the Council. Attacking parents is how he relieves stress.

They were berated by the Council? Oh I've got to watch that.

So MCPS and Board President Grace Rivera-Oven had to defend their CIP to the Council. Watching now to see how hard the Council went in on them.

Ok. So the confrontational part seemed to start when Friedson challenged Taylor on whether he'd been transparent and engaged with the public about the relocation of the bus sites.

Taylor looked like he wanted to get up and punch Friedson. He was very spicy and feisty. Essie appeared flustered as she always does. What a horrible chief of staff pick.

If Friedson were to become County Exec, it'd be interesting to see how he and Taylor would work together....

I can see why Taylor would be irritated as MCPS is trying to find places for the bus depot because the Council wants the land the current depot is on for developers. Maybe Taylor was expecting them to back him up on this since they are the ones that want the bus depot moved.

I don't know much about the sites Taylor is proposing, but I agree with the councilmembers that it was weird for Taylor to propose such sites without real outreach to the impacted communities. I might be wrong, but I do not think I am allowed to lease my house's driveway to a taxi company because my property is a residential property. Changing a site that was intended to be for a school to a bus depot seems like a pretty significant change in the use of the property. Maybe our zoning ordinance allows this. But it seems like kind of a dick move.

And I thought his response to the concerns about community outreach was really dismissive and dishonest. I'm looking at the BOE's adopted CIP now and it is quite hard to identify where the sites are (they aren't even listed in the Superintendent's CIP or in the Project Description Form - just in a table called: Expected Facility Use Schedule for Fiscal Years 2027-2032)

Take a look at Parents' Coalition - Janis has done the research and identified the new bus sites.

As for Taylor not conducting community engagement on the new bus depots, well, that is how he operates on everything. The regional programming outreach was faux, with staff gaslighting the community on a regular basis.

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[Anonymous]

This is so much worse than the current system where everyone can apply to any program they’re interested in. Now we have crappy, watered down programs in the different regions (see engineering everywhere but Wheaton). This is not equity; it’s just an illusion of equity.

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Anonymous wrote:This is so much worse than the current system where everyone can apply to any program they’re interested in. Now we have crappy, watered down programs in the different regions (see engineering everywhere but Wheaton). This is not equity; it’s just an illusion of equity.

The only ones that will be watered down are the same ones as now that have principals who don't make things a priority. These programs aren't going to work at some schools. How do you put a program into a school that doesn't offer the classes or resources already when there is no dedicated funding?

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Anonymous wrote:can someone clarify whether a student has to select one of these programs? Can they enroll in their home school and take a variety of classes including APs but not specialize in anything?

For example, I think my kid would like a humanities program but Whitman is a treacherous commute. Could he just do humanities and AP english classes at Einstein?

Of course students can stay in their home schools and not specialize in anything. The majority of students will be like that.

The fact that people are confused about this shows just how bad MCPS comms are.

Thanks, I'm the poster of that question and felt gaslit that the answer wasn't on the MCPS website- the ParentVue/Email we got yesterday made it seem like you had to pick a program!

The email yesterday was incredibly confusing and did make it seem like everyone was supposed to pick a program like a Harry Potter sorting. Their comms are so unclear.

And yet the email also simultaneously made it sound like no one will have to leave their home school to be in their preferred programs. Do they not even proofread their AI-written emails anymore? "Students can choose to apply to a specialized pathway in areas, such as healthcare, technology, leadership, languages or the arts. Regardless of the pathway, students will continue to attend their home high school and take part in strong academics, athletics, arts and activities."

That is AWFUL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:After looking at so many half-baked pathways on that site, I am beginning to see the strategy.

Classes, teachers, that is all secondary. The idea is to create many mini cohorts of students with similar interests and hope that they will lift each other up. That is why they are adding random magnets with no vision on how to execute them whatsoever. They expect that kids will figure it out.

So people trying to nitpick about specific classes, and why is physics going before calculus, and why is business class in the art magnet, are just wasting their time. The architects of this model don't believe that is important at this stage and expect that kids will figure it out over time and that programs will evolve accordingly.

It is ironic that this approach is what some equity advocates resent the most. Their belief is that their kids are capable but don't have access to right resources. If only they had access to some class with a fancy name, like MVC, the sky would be limit. This model is telling them - the only resource you are gonna get is other smart kids; observe them and learn from them.

It is actually not a bad concept. However, it will not help introvert kids, and parents with no resources, nor energy and time, to supplement weak curriculums through extra activities (AoPS, RSM, ...) will stay frustrated.

Except they're actually killing the cohorts of advanced kids at home schools (except the richest high schools that aren't going to have large numbers of kids leave for programs and would still have enough advanced kids left behind even if they did.) And the advanced kids who'll be left at these weakened home schools will be disproportionately poorer ones whose parents can't drive them to programs at other schools. That's the inequitable part.

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Anonymous wrote:After looking at so many half-baked pathways on that site, I am beginning to see the strategy.

Classes, teachers, that is all secondary. The idea is to create many mini cohorts of students with similar interests and hope that they will lift each other up. That is why they are adding random magnets with no vision on how to execute them whatsoever. They expect that kids will figure it out.

So people trying to nitpick about specific classes, and why is physics going before calculus, and why is business class in the art magnet, are just wasting their time. The architects of this model don't believe that is important at this stage and expect that kids will figure it out over time and that programs will evolve accordingly.

It is ironic that this approach is what some equity advocates resent the most. Their belief is that their kids are capable but don't have access to right resources. If only they had access to some class with a fancy name, like MVC, the sky would be limit. This model is telling them - the only resource you are gonna get is other smart kids; observe them and learn from them.

It is actually not a bad concept. However, it will not help introvert kids, and parents with no resources, nor energy and time, to supplement weak curriculums through extra activities (AoPS, RSM, ...) will stay frustrated.

Except they're actually killing the cohorts of advanced kids at home schools (except the richest high schools that aren't going to have large numbers of kids leave for programs and would still have enough advanced kids left behind even if they did.) And the advanced kids who'll be left at these weakened home schools will be disproportionately poorer ones whose parents can't drive them to programs at other schools. That's the inequitable part.

There aren't big cohorts now as many in the DCC leave for Blair, Wheaton or Private because of the lack of school offerings. These families will have to move or make do, like the current ones have to and there is going to be a bigger divide, especially when some schools could, but refuse to provide opportunities for all students. Farms rates will go up at these schools as families leave.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous]I think they missed an opportunity with SMCS
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/regional-programs-and-themes/science-math--computer-science-smcs/

Kids are already required to do Research. Why not wrap it up with a pretty bow and offer AP Sem Eng 10 and AP Research.[/quote]

These existing research program is better than AP Research.

English is up to the school not the magnet program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are Chinese family, but our kids are not interested in learning chinese culture & languages. They cannot speak or understand them. May I ask why is there an introduction of chinese program in the HS region? Is there an increase demand from parents? I am considering to put them back in weekend chinese school.

You answered your own question.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think they missed an opportunity with SMCS
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/regional-programs-and-themes/science-math--computer-science-smcs/

Kids are already required to do Research. Why not wrap it up with a pretty bow and offer AP Sem Eng 10 and AP Research.[/quote]

These existing research program is better than AP Research.

English is up to the school not the magnet program. [/quote]

Not all schools have ap research and sem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Critical Languages, Cultures, and Global Connections (Chinese)"

So really just one critical language, not languages plural.

It's aiming at the US "Critical Languages" program.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_Language_Scholarship_Program.



https://exchanges.state.gov/non-us/program/teachers-critical-languages-program