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Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Can someone clarify exactly what happened. Drinking alcohol in front of students is not acceptable. Drinking alcohol privately no one cares.


You think, in theory, one drink in front of kids isn’t acceptable- after hours on a field trip? In other words, modeling responsible drinking is a bad thing?

DP


They were responsible for the children (some as young as 14) in an unfamiliar city overseeing multiple rooms in a hotel. That is not responsible drinking, that is akin to drinking while driving the proverbial bus.

And more than one drink, in front of students.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can someone clarify exactly what happened. Drinking alcohol in front of students is not acceptable. Drinking alcohol privately no one cares.


You think, in theory, one drink in front of kids isn’t acceptable- after hours on a field trip? In other words, modeling responsible drinking is a bad thing?

DP



Depends on the work contract. I am not allowed to drink alcohol inside the work cafeteria.

I would expect teachers to not drink alcohol while taking care of my kids. Even if it’s just having dinner.


Then I’m sure you would agree you shouldn’t have a drink with dinner after hours at a work conference. The conference is an extension of the office, after all.


Are there really so many functional alcoholics that can’t skip drinking for a couple nights?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can someone clarify exactly what happened. Drinking alcohol in front of students is not acceptable. Drinking alcohol privately no one cares.


You think, in theory, one drink in front of kids isn’t acceptable- after hours on a field trip? In other words, modeling responsible drinking is a bad thing?

DP



Depends on the work contract. I am not allowed to drink alcohol inside the work cafeteria.

I would expect teachers to not drink alcohol while taking care of my kids. Even if it’s just having dinner.


Then I’m sure you would agree you shouldn’t have a drink with dinner after hours at a work conference. The conference is an extension of the office, after all.


How many minors attend work conferences? So yes, alcohol in dinner at work conference it’s ok.


You said alcohol in your work place isn’t appropriate, but a conference is an extension of work.

Now you’re changing your story to drinking in the presence of minors. That’s fine.

I’m assuming you never have a drink with dinner around your kids, right? And you don’t dine at restaurants that serve alcohol, right?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can someone clarify exactly what happened. Drinking alcohol in front of students is not acceptable. Drinking alcohol privately no one cares.


You think, in theory, one drink in front of kids isn’t acceptable- after hours on a field trip? In other words, modeling responsible drinking is a bad thing?

DP



Depends on the work contract. I am not allowed to drink alcohol inside the work cafeteria.

I would expect teachers to not drink alcohol while taking care of my kids. Even if it’s just having dinner.


Then I’m sure you would agree you shouldn’t have a drink with dinner after hours at a work conference. The conference is an extension of the office, after all.


Are there really so many functional alcoholics that can’t skip drinking for a couple nights?


Having a drink with dinner makes one a functioning alcoholic?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can someone clarify exactly what happened. Drinking alcohol in front of students is not acceptable. Drinking alcohol privately no one cares.


You think, in theory, one drink in front of kids isn’t acceptable- after hours on a field trip? In other words, modeling responsible drinking is a bad thing?

DP


They were responsible for the children (some as young as 14) in an unfamiliar city overseeing multiple rooms in a hotel. That is not responsible drinking, that is akin to drinking while driving the proverbial bus.

And more than one drink, in front of students.


You think having a drink or two in a hotel is the same as drinking and driving a proverbial bus?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can someone clarify exactly what happened. Drinking alcohol in front of students is not acceptable. Drinking alcohol privately no one cares.


You think, in theory, one drink in front of kids isn’t acceptable- after hours on a field trip? In other words, modeling responsible drinking is a bad thing?

DP


They were responsible for the children (some as young as 14) in an unfamiliar city overseeing multiple rooms in a hotel. That is not responsible drinking, that is akin to drinking while driving the proverbial bus.

And more than one drink, in front of students.


You think having a drink or two in a hotel is the same as drinking and driving a proverbial bus?


You must be drinking now, if you don’t understand the analogy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can someone clarify exactly what happened. Drinking alcohol in front of students is not acceptable. Drinking alcohol privately no one cares.


You think, in theory, one drink in front of kids isn’t acceptable- after hours on a field trip? In other words, modeling responsible drinking is a bad thing?

DP


They were responsible for the children (some as young as 14) in an unfamiliar city overseeing multiple rooms in a hotel. That is not responsible drinking, that is akin to drinking while driving the proverbial bus.

And more than one drink, in front of students.


You think having a drink or two in a hotel is the same as drinking and driving a proverbial bus?


You must be drinking now, if you don’t understand the analogy.


You’re right, I don’t understand your point at all. All I see is hyperbole.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can someone clarify exactly what happened. Drinking alcohol in front of students is not acceptable. Drinking alcohol privately no one cares.


You think, in theory, one drink in front of kids isn’t acceptable- after hours on a field trip? In other words, modeling responsible drinking is a bad thing?

DP



Depends on the work contract. I am not allowed to drink alcohol inside the work cafeteria.

I would expect teachers to not drink alcohol while taking care of my kids. Even if it’s just having dinner.


Then I’m sure you would agree you shouldn’t have a drink with dinner after hours at a work conference. The conference is an extension of the office, after all.


How many minors attend work conferences? So yes, alcohol in dinner at work conference it’s ok.


You said alcohol in your work place isn’t appropriate, but a conference is an extension of work.

Now you’re changing your story to drinking in the presence of minors. That’s fine.

I’m assuming you never have a drink with dinner around your kids, right? And you don’t dine at restaurants that serve alcohol, right?


You can try your arguments in one place: Anonymous Alcoholics. Good luck convincing them.

Following your argument. Drinking alcohol at your home it’s ok, but not so much while you are on duty. For example, I haven’t met doctors drinking while making a diagnostic.

If you don’t like the rule, you can try another school. You might be surprised to learn their views.
Anonymous
As has been hashed out in the other thread, people aren't really questioning the fact that drinking on duty (or after hours) isn't allowed. The issue is the consequence and the repercussions of it on the whole community.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can someone clarify exactly what happened. Drinking alcohol in front of students is not acceptable. Drinking alcohol privately no one cares.


You think, in theory, one drink in front of kids isn’t acceptable- after hours on a field trip? In other words, modeling responsible drinking is a bad thing?

DP



Depends on the work contract. I am not allowed to drink alcohol inside the work cafeteria.

I would expect teachers to not drink alcohol while taking care of my kids. Even if it’s just having dinner.


Then I’m sure you would agree you shouldn’t have a drink with dinner after hours at a work conference. The conference is an extension of the office, after all.


How many minors attend work conferences? So yes, alcohol in dinner at work conference it’s ok.


You said alcohol in your work place isn’t appropriate, but a conference is an extension of work.

Now you’re changing your story to drinking in the presence of minors. That’s fine.

I’m assuming you never have a drink with dinner around your kids, right? And you don’t dine at restaurants that serve alcohol, right?


You can try your arguments in one place: Anonymous Alcoholics. Good luck convincing them.

Following your argument. Drinking alcohol at your home it’s ok, but not so much while you are on duty. For example, I haven’t met doctors drinking while making a diagnostic.

If you don’t like the rule, you can try another school. You might be surprised to learn their views.


If you drink while on duty parenting, which is 24/7, maybe you should take your own advice and head to AA.

But in all seriousness, kids binge drink because of parents like you. You throw a fit over kids being exposed to responsible drinking around role models, then you wonder why they abuse it behind your back. Europeans would laugh at your provincial attitude.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can someone clarify exactly what happened. Drinking alcohol in front of students is not acceptable. Drinking alcohol privately no one cares.


You think, in theory, one drink in front of kids isn’t acceptable- after hours on a field trip? In other words, modeling responsible drinking is a bad thing?

DP



Depends on the work contract. I am not allowed to drink alcohol inside the work cafeteria.

I would expect teachers to not drink alcohol while taking care of my kids. Even if it’s just having dinner.


Then I’m sure you would agree you shouldn’t have a drink with dinner after hours at a work conference. The conference is an extension of the office, after all.


How many minors attend work conferences? So yes, alcohol in dinner at work conference it’s ok.


You said alcohol in your work place isn’t appropriate, but a conference is an extension of work.

Now you’re changing your story to drinking in the presence of minors. That’s fine.

I’m assuming you never have a drink with dinner around your kids, right? And you don’t dine at restaurants that serve alcohol, right?


You can try your arguments in one place: Anonymous Alcoholics. Good luck convincing them.

Following your argument. Drinking alcohol at your home it’s ok, but not so much while you are on duty. For example, I haven’t met doctors drinking while making a diagnostic.

If you don’t like the rule, you can try another school. You might be surprised to learn their views.


If you drink while on duty parenting, which is 24/7, maybe you should take your own advice and head to AA.

But in all seriousness, kids binge drink because of parents like you. You throw a fit over kids being exposed to responsible drinking around role models, then you wonder why they abuse it behind your back. Europeans would laugh at your provincial attitude.


I am sorry but you are a bit confused. At home is up the parents to decide if they drink or don’t drink. At school is not up to teacher to decide if it’s fine to drink or not in front of the students. If you like to drink in front of the students then go to Europe and you will be happier.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can someone clarify exactly what happened. Drinking alcohol in front of students is not acceptable. Drinking alcohol privately no one cares.


You think, in theory, one drink in front of kids isn’t acceptable- after hours on a field trip? In other words, modeling responsible drinking is a bad thing?

DP



Depends on the work contract. I am not allowed to drink alcohol inside the work cafeteria.

I would expect teachers to not drink alcohol while taking care of my kids. Even if it’s just having dinner.


Then I’m sure you would agree you shouldn’t have a drink with dinner after hours at a work conference. The conference is an extension of the office, after all.


How many minors attend work conferences? So yes, alcohol in dinner at work conference it’s ok.


You said alcohol in your work place isn’t appropriate, but a conference is an extension of work.

Now you’re changing your story to drinking in the presence of minors. That’s fine.

I’m assuming you never have a drink with dinner around your kids, right? And you don’t dine at restaurants that serve alcohol, right?


You can try your arguments in one place: Anonymous Alcoholics. Good luck convincing them.

Following your argument. Drinking alcohol at your home it’s ok, but not so much while you are on duty. For example, I haven’t met doctors drinking while making a diagnostic.

If you don’t like the rule, you can try another school. You might be surprised to learn their views.


If you drink while on duty parenting, which is 24/7, maybe you should take your own advice and head to AA.

But in all seriousness, kids binge drink because of parents like you. You throw a fit over kids being exposed to responsible drinking around role models, then you wonder why they abuse it behind your back. Europeans would laugh at your provincial attitude.


I am sorry but you are a bit confused. At home is up the parents to decide if they drink or don’t drink. At school is not up to teacher to decide if it’s fine to drink or not in front of the students. If you like to drink in front of the students then go to Europe and you will be happier.


Why is this such a problem for you? Are you seriously offended if your kid is exposed to alcohol? Do you truly think your kid was in danger? Seriously, explain yourself.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can someone clarify exactly what happened. Drinking alcohol in front of students is not acceptable. Drinking alcohol privately no one cares.


You think, in theory, one drink in front of kids isn’t acceptable- after hours on a field trip? In other words, modeling responsible drinking is a bad thing?

DP



Depends on the work contract. I am not allowed to drink alcohol inside the work cafeteria.

I would expect teachers to not drink alcohol while taking care of my kids. Even if it’s just having dinner.


Then I’m sure you would agree you shouldn’t have a drink with dinner after hours at a work conference. The conference is an extension of the office, after all.


How many minors attend work conferences? So yes, alcohol in dinner at work conference it’s ok.


You said alcohol in your work place isn’t appropriate, but a conference is an extension of work.

Now you’re changing your story to drinking in the presence of minors. That’s fine.

I’m assuming you never have a drink with dinner around your kids, right? And you don’t dine at restaurants that serve alcohol, right?


You can try your arguments in one place: Anonymous Alcoholics. Good luck convincing them.

Following your argument. Drinking alcohol at your home it’s ok, but not so much while you are on duty. For example, I haven’t met doctors drinking while making a diagnostic.

If you don’t like the rule, you can try another school. You might be surprised to learn their views.


If you drink while on duty parenting, which is 24/7, maybe you should take your own advice and head to AA.

But in all seriousness, kids binge drink because of parents like you. You throw a fit over kids being exposed to responsible drinking around role models, then you wonder why they abuse it behind your back. Europeans would laugh at your provincial attitude.


I am sorry but you are a bit confused. At home is up the parents to decide if they drink or don’t drink. At school is not up to teacher to decide if it’s fine to drink or not in front of the students. If you like to drink in front of the students then go to Europe and you will be happier.


Why is this such a problem for you? Are you seriously offended if your kid is exposed to alcohol? Do you truly think your kid was in danger? Seriously, explain yourself.


This is likely a Penny defender, not a parent directly affected.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can someone clarify exactly what happened. Drinking alcohol in front of students is not acceptable. Drinking alcohol privately no one cares.


You think, in theory, one drink in front of kids isn’t acceptable- after hours on a field trip? In other words, modeling responsible drinking is a bad thing?

DP



Depends on the work contract. I am not allowed to drink alcohol inside the work cafeteria.

I would expect teachers to not drink alcohol while taking care of my kids. Even if it’s just having dinner.


Then I’m sure you would agree you shouldn’t have a drink with dinner after hours at a work conference. The conference is an extension of the office, after all.


How many minors attend work conferences? So yes, alcohol in dinner at work conference it’s ok.


You said alcohol in your work place isn’t appropriate, but a conference is an extension of work.

Now you’re changing your story to drinking in the presence of minors. That’s fine.

I’m assuming you never have a drink with dinner around your kids, right? And you don’t dine at restaurants that serve alcohol, right?


You can try your arguments in one place: Anonymous Alcoholics. Good luck convincing them.

Following your argument. Drinking alcohol at your home it’s ok, but not so much while you are on duty. For example, I haven’t met doctors drinking while making a diagnostic.

If you don’t like the rule, you can try another school. You might be surprised to learn their views.


If you drink while on duty parenting, which is 24/7, maybe you should take your own advice and head to AA.

But in all seriousness, kids binge drink because of parents like you. You throw a fit over kids being exposed to responsible drinking around role models, then you wonder why they abuse it behind your back. Europeans would laugh at your provincial attitude.


I am sorry but you are a bit confused. At home is up the parents to decide if they drink or don’t drink. At school is not up to teacher to decide if it’s fine to drink or not in front of the students. If you like to drink in front of the students then go to Europe and you will be happier.


Why is this such a problem for you? Are you seriously offended if your kid is exposed to alcohol? Do you truly think your kid was in danger? Seriously, explain yourself.


This is likely a Penny defender, not a parent directly affected.


Good point.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can someone clarify exactly what happened. Drinking alcohol in front of students is not acceptable. Drinking alcohol privately no one cares.


You think, in theory, one drink in front of kids isn’t acceptable- after hours on a field trip? In other words, modeling responsible drinking is a bad thing?

DP



Depends on the work contract. I am not allowed to drink alcohol inside the work cafeteria.

I would expect teachers to not drink alcohol while taking care of my kids. Even if it’s just having dinner.


Then I’m sure you would agree you shouldn’t have a drink with dinner after hours at a work conference. The conference is an extension of the office, after all.


How many minors attend work conferences? So yes, alcohol in dinner at work conference it’s ok.


You said alcohol in your work place isn’t appropriate, but a conference is an extension of work.

Now you’re changing your story to drinking in the presence of minors. That’s fine.

I’m assuming you never have a drink with dinner around your kids, right? And you don’t dine at restaurants that serve alcohol, right?


You can try your arguments in one place: Anonymous Alcoholics. Good luck convincing them.

Following your argument. Drinking alcohol at your home it’s ok, but not so much while you are on duty. For example, I haven’t met doctors drinking while making a diagnostic.

If you don’t like the rule, you can try another school. You might be surprised to learn their views.


If you drink while on duty parenting, which is 24/7, maybe you should take your own advice and head to AA.

But in all seriousness, kids binge drink because of parents like you. You throw a fit over kids being exposed to responsible drinking around role models, then you wonder why they abuse it behind your back. Europeans would laugh at your provincial attitude.


I am sorry but you are a bit confused. At home is up the parents to decide if they drink or don’t drink. At school is not up to teacher to decide if it’s fine to drink or not in front of the students. If you like to drink in front of the students then go to Europe and you will be happier.


Why is this such a problem for you? Are you seriously offended if your kid is exposed to alcohol? Do you truly think your kid was in danger? Seriously, explain yourself.


But you agree with me that is not up to teacher to decide whether to drink or not in front of a kid, right? Or the opinion of the parents is irrelevant and the only thing that matters is what the teacher wants to do? Please tell me.
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