You can't over the long haul, so please keep us updated for the next 10-15 years. I'm not worried. |
You should be. The Fed can't print oil this time. |
And crappy jokes aside, that was the entire point of why are you moving RETIREMENT funds around. Don't trade that ****, if you think you are the next Buffet, GL! A speculative investment account after all your basic funds are met SURE. The hate comes from trading your actual retirement like a coked up day trader. All I can say is we warned you. |
Go buy some 3x inverse funds then |
. I put money in G after I had made a ton in I fund. Now the gains are safe. The I fund has dropped 15%. Therefore, I times the market correctly. Guess what? The market is going to keep dropping? Why? Because anyone with a brain can read the news and see how shtty conditions actually are. Jobs, inflation reports, CPI, gas, turmoil. I was right. I’ll buy back in when it’s another 20% down. |
Why can’t I? I just did. |
DP. I'm the other poster who made money in I before moving to G. I think we're actually ripe for a bounce here in the next week or so. Maybe a cease fire is announced for real or whatever. But high oil prices persist over time as infrastructure has been damaged, which ultimately leads to a recession and drop in stocks later in the year. |
| Amazing that nobody here has ever lost money attempting to time the market. Best and brightest! |
If anyone needs to understand how dumb market timing is, please see here. One person predicting another 20% drop. Another person predicting an up market “in the next week” and a recession “later in the year.” And both adjusting entire retirement portfolios in the hopes that they can time BOTH when to sell and buy. |
Both agree the ultimate direction is down. Just a matter of if you want to play a bounce or not. |
The “ultimate direction is down.” What does this even mean. So the market is not going back up? Just an insane position to take. You’re not a reasonable person if you believe this. |
+1 The pp will never admit defeat. Just like Trump, always winning
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op here. You aren’t getting what we are saying. Of course “the ultimate direction is up” in the broader long term context of the stock market. However, in terms of cyclical downturns, we are headed for one. Or thar it is is okay to be cautious and act defensively whwn there are many reports of bad jobs numbers, persistent inflation, and scary global events in the news like oil rising up to $118 at its highest. There is no clear resolution to that. Also, we had a good decade plus of massive returns and anyone who studies history can assume a pull back will be coming at some point. So yeah I was 100% I fund for a while and I was 100% C before that for years. But not I get a really shtty feeling and put it in G and I was right. And now, depending on what happens soon might slowly starting moving out of G, but am not sure. Either way, I preserved my gains and if magically all goes well with a peace plan or whatever I am going back to C fund or I fund. But I was right. Technically, my intuition was correct and I timed the market perfectly where I wasn’t part of that drop. So again my point is that you can sort of time it well sometimes. Mix drop. |
How am I admitting defeat? I called for a bounce and poof a bounce appeared. Did I get lucky again? I don't think things are magically fixed overnight however so I don't think this was the bottom. That's all I'm saying. |
This is all extremely scattered as a strategy. I find it very hard to believe you have timed the last few weeks perfectly and transferred between G/C/I to the point where your returns are really all that much meaningfully higher than just leaving them in C. And I find it much harder to believe that you could beat the S&P over time employing a “gut feeling”’ strategy. You are going to miss out on huge days like yesterday. Miss enough, and you’re killing your long term returns. You can go back every single year on this forum and see people predicting a recession or massive stock market drops. Every single year. No one knows anything. And the recoveries tend to happen quick and in chunks like we saw yesterday. |