What are CS majors going to do...

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my kid says there's a big movement to hard and soft skills. so history and data science double major. or Econ and philosophy.

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Anonymous wrote:First off, what is AI doing besides sorting through natural language and patching together words and numbers? Thats it.

I am in CS and the threat of AI is real. It's a different time we are living in

Today I used the latest Codex model to code a music leaning/ear training IOS app that I’ve been looking for for ages. Took about an hour. I can do this work - would have taken me six months of hours here and there on weekends.

I really don’t know what the future holds.

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Anonymous wrote:There are many threads about this on this forum. Please do searches and read. I am a recruiter for a major tech firm. You must not be in the field or from overseas. Many tech giant CEOs are also saying the same thing, they’re hiring more humanities majors with the strong critical thinking, writing, communication skills. There are many examples on this forum of kids graduating over the years with non STEM majors getting high paying jobs at the tech/consulting/banking firms (majors like history, IR, econ, poli sci, etc) wake up. Many many Fortune 500 CEOs have humanities majors.

https://www.fastcompany.com/40440952/why-this-tech-ceo-keeps-hiring-humanities-majors

https://thewayofimprovement.blog/2017/02/18/mark-cuban-dont-go-to-college-to-study-business-study-the-humanities/

Prominent Fortune 500 CEOs with Humanities Degrees:
Brian Moynihan (Bank of America): History
Alex Karp (Palantir): Philosophy
Michael Eisner (Former Disney): English Literature & Theater
Kenneth Chenault (Former American Express): History
Lloyd Blankfein (Former Goldman Sachs): History
Mark Parker (Nike): Political Science
Brian Cornell (Target): Political Science
Gail Boudreaux (Anthem): Psychology/Sociology

Please stop the nonsense. These people would have been successful regardless of the major. Not everyone can become a professional athlete, and not everyone can become CEO. CS major is going through a big shift. https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1314492.page

Listen. These are extreme examples. Read here on this forum or talk to people. I live it as a recruiter and have colleagues at other top firms. They do not hire only CS or STEM majors. Please wake up.

I missed the beginning of this discussion, but interested in your experience. Can you elaborate your comment? My inclination is that firms hire people, not necessarily by major - that’s what graduate school is for - but the AI revolution has apparently led to two camps of parents: 1- avoid all CS and maybe finance etc, majors …. 2- avoid liberal arts degrees such as a language or philosophy etc. ?

It's the same poster(s) who have been banging the CS and Tech thing on this board for months. Sad. Just ignore. Maybe didn't have the aptitude for Tech or Engineering who knows their motivation. So tiresome.

Agree. Just ignore. Posters who think CS and STEM are the golden tickets to success … their kids will sadly learn the hard way. Best to keep this knowledge to ourselves (and the many college counselors/elite privates/publics who have their students major in interdisciplinary subjects - stem and humanities)…don’t waste the energy to change the minds of the delusional an uneducated.

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Anonymous wrote:my kid says there's a big movement to hard and soft skills. so history and data science double major. or Econ and philosophy.

Exactly. Mine was a history and stat major. Got an entry offer at Goldman Sachs.

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Anonymous wrote:What are any major going to do...

I guess some posters think being an English major is the way to go, as if AI can't replace writers faster than it can replace software programmers.

https://www.businessinsider.com/anthropic-president-ai-humanities-majors-more-important-2026-2#:~:text=Follow%20Henry%20Chandonnet,she%20said%20on%20ABC%20News.

Anthropic president Daniela Amodei said that AI was making humanities majors "more important than ever."
Amodei was a literature major. She told ABC News that she prizes "the things that make us human."
"At the end of the day, people still really like interacting with people," she said.

wait, so you have one humanities major in AI saying this, but I posted a link about how some tech companies are growing their entry level, but that doesn't matter? Where's the critical thinking skills here.

She doesn't regret her English major because she's now wealthy. How many English majors wish that they had picked a more marketable major compared to CS majors? Granted, I think too many people jumped on the CS bandwagon because they thought that was an easy avenue to get a good paying job, but I bet a lot of these people don't enjoy what they do, and at the end of the day, probably aren't that good at it.

Do you understand what exactly she's saying here? She's saying that humanities majors are still important, not that AI companies want to hire them.

things that make us human will become much more important,.. Amodei listed some things that make us human: understanding ourselves, our history, and what makes us tick.

Sure, we still need humanities majors, but she's not saying those majors will be able to get good paying jobs.

Look at the open jobs out there. How many tech companies are looking for humanities majors?

There are many threads about this on this forum. Please do searches and read. I am a recruiter for a major tech firm. You must not be in the field or from overseas. Many tech giant CEOs are also saying the same thing, they’re hiring more humanities majors with the strong critical thinking, writing, communication skills. There are many examples on this forum of kids graduating over the years with non STEM majors getting high paying jobs at the tech/consulting/banking firms (majors like history, IR, econ, poli sci, etc) wake up. Many many Fortune 500 CEOs have humanities majors.

https://www.fastcompany.com/40440952/why-this-tech-ceo-keeps-hiring-humanities-majors

https://thewayofimprovement.blog/2017/02/18/mark-cuban-dont-go-to-college-to-study-business-study-the-humanities/

Prominent Fortune 500 CEOs with Humanities Degrees:
Brian Moynihan (Bank of America): History
Alex Karp (Palantir): Philosophy
Michael Eisner (Former Disney): English Literature & Theater
Kenneth Chenault (Former American Express): History
Lloyd Blankfein (Former Goldman Sachs): History
Mark Parker (Nike): Political Science
Brian Cornell (Target): Political Science
Gail Boudreaux (Anthem): Psychology/Sociology

I've worked in tech in the SV for 20 years. Tech has its ebbs and flow. I lived through the dotcom bomb when lots of people got laid off. Guess what? New tech emerged, some of which made other jobs pretty much obsolete, and they hired like crazy.

The industry is definitely shifting, and long gone are the days of getting a six figure job in CS right out of college for a large chunk of grads (there are still some of these people,btw), but it's not the doom and gloom you are suggesting.

Do you know what most of those CEOs have in common? They are not CEOs of tech firms (except for one), and they have graduate degrees. No one said you can't be a CEO of a company without a tech degree, btw. Also, how many people do you think make it as CEOs, even people with a tech background. Such nonsense.

Sure, major in PS or English, then pay more $$$ to get an MBA.

You know what the CEO of Nvidia said? Go major in physical sciences because that's the next wave of generative AI.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/18/nvidia-ceo-jensen-huang-study-field-computer-science-software-gpu-alexnet-generative-physical-ai-university.html

Here's what CEO of Open AI Altman said:

The best time to get into computer science is right now...

But obviously, he doesn't mean basic software programming.

https://www.businessinsider.com/sam-altman-openai-best-accidental-career-advice-computer-science-2025-11

And here's what the godfather of AI said:

the “godfather of AI,” Geoffrey Hinton, argues that a CS degree remains uniquely valuable. And you might be making a mistake by skipping it altogether...

Hinton’s core point: a CS degree isn’t only about writing lines of code. It’s about building deep foundations in mathematics, statistics, systems thinking, and conceptual clarity, all of which no AI can replicate (yet).

https://www.interviewquery.com/p/cs-degree-vs-ai-major-geoffrey-hinton

As stated earlier, "entry level" for SWE is changing, and younger people are in a better position to adapt than older people. Colleges are starting to offer AI majors.

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Anonymous wrote:What are any major going to do...

I guess some posters think being an English major is the way to go, as if AI can't replace writers faster than it can replace software programmers.

https://www.businessinsider.com/anthropic-president-ai-humanities-majors-more-important-2026-2#:~:text=Follow%20Henry%20Chandonnet,she%20said%20on%20ABC%20News.

Anthropic president Daniela Amodei said that AI was making humanities majors "more important than ever."
Amodei was a literature major. She told ABC News that she prizes "the things that make us human."
"At the end of the day, people still really like interacting with people," she said.

wait, so you have one humanities major in AI saying this, but I posted a link about how some tech companies are growing their entry level, but that doesn't matter? Where's the critical thinking skills here.

She doesn't regret her English major because she's now wealthy. How many English majors wish that they had picked a more marketable major compared to CS majors? Granted, I think too many people jumped on the CS bandwagon because they thought that was an easy avenue to get a good paying job, but I bet a lot of these people don't enjoy what they do, and at the end of the day, probably aren't that good at it.

Do you understand what exactly she's saying here? She's saying that humanities majors are still important, not that AI companies want to hire them.

things that make us human will become much more important,.. Amodei listed some things that make us human: understanding ourselves, our history, and what makes us tick.

Sure, we still need humanities majors, but she's not saying those majors will be able to get good paying jobs.

Look at the open jobs out there. How many tech companies are looking for humanities majors?

There are many threads about this on this forum. Please do searches and read. I am a recruiter for a major tech firm. You must not be in the field or from overseas. Many tech giant CEOs are also saying the same thing, they’re hiring more humanities majors with the strong critical thinking, writing, communication skills. There are many examples on this forum of kids graduating over the years with non STEM majors getting high paying jobs at the tech/consulting/banking firms (majors like history, IR, econ, poli sci, etc) wake up. Many many Fortune 500 CEOs have humanities majors.

https://www.fastcompany.com/40440952/why-this-tech-ceo-keeps-hiring-humanities-majors

https://thewayofimprovement.blog/2017/02/18/mark-cuban-dont-go-to-college-to-study-business-study-the-humanities/

Prominent Fortune 500 CEOs with Humanities Degrees:
Brian Moynihan (Bank of America): History
Alex Karp (Palantir): Philosophy
Michael Eisner (Former Disney): English Literature & Theater
Kenneth Chenault (Former American Express): History
Lloyd Blankfein (Former Goldman Sachs): History
Mark Parker (Nike): Political Science
Brian Cornell (Target): Political Science
Gail Boudreaux (Anthem): Psychology/Sociology

I've worked in tech in the SV for 20 years. Tech has its ebbs and flow. I lived through the dotcom bomb when lots of people got laid off. Guess what? New tech emerged, some of which made other jobs pretty much obsolete, and they hired like crazy.

The industry is definitely shifting, and long gone are the days of getting a six figure job in CS right out of college for a large chunk of grads (there are still some of these people,btw), but it's not the doom and gloom you are suggesting.

Do you know what most of those CEOs have in common? They are not CEOs of tech firms (except for one), and they have graduate degrees. No one said you can't be a CEO of a company without a tech degree, btw. Also, how many people do you think make it as CEOs, even people with a tech background. Such nonsense.

Sure, major in PS or English, then pay more $$$ to get an MBA.

You know what the CEO of Nvidia said? Go major in physical sciences because that's the next wave of generative AI.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/18/nvidia-ceo-jensen-huang-study-field-computer-science-software-gpu-alexnet-generative-physical-ai-university.html

Here's what CEO of Open AI Altman said:

The best time to get into computer science is right now...

But obviously, he doesn't mean basic software programming.

https://www.businessinsider.com/sam-altman-openai-best-accidental-career-advice-computer-science-2025-11

And here's what the godfather of AI said:

the “godfather of AI,” Geoffrey Hinton, argues that a CS degree remains uniquely valuable. And you might be making a mistake by skipping it altogether...

Hinton’s core point: a CS degree isn’t only about writing lines of code. It’s about building deep foundations in mathematics, statistics, systems thinking, and conceptual clarity, all of which no AI can replicate (yet).

https://www.interviewquery.com/p/cs-degree-vs-ai-major-geoffrey-hinton

As stated earlier, "entry level" for SWE is changing, and younger people are in a better position to adapt than older people. Colleges are starting to offer AI majors.

Jensen also included liberal arts in his comments.

Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang advises that the future of AI requires skills beyond coding, often recommending the study of physical sciences, engineering, and the liberal arts to foster critical thinking, creativity, and systems understanding. He argues that as AI automates programming, expertise in "how the world works" is more valuable.

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Anonymous wrote:In recruiting sessions, my CS major is told over and over, we don't care what you majored in, we don't even look at that, we are going to trian you anyway. They just want smart, educated people who can think and work hard.

Recruiting sessions for what?

1000000000+. DCUM parents with their STEM only mindset need to freaking wake up.

Asian parents…..because they wouldn’t be here otherwise. It is all that they know and understand.

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Anonymous wrote:In recruiting sessions, my CS major is told over and over, we don't care what you majored in, we don't even look at that, we are going to trian you anyway. They just want smart, educated people who can think and work hard.

Recruiting sessions for what?

1000000000+. DCUM parents with their STEM only mindset need to freaking wake up.

Asian parents…..because they wouldn’t be here otherwise. It is all that they know and understand.

Many first gen immigrant families. Mine included (Asian). I know that’s the mindset they bring from their home country but this is not the reality here nor in most of the world.

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Anonymous wrote:In recruiting sessions, my CS major is told over and over, we don't care what you majored in, we don't even look at that, we are going to trian you anyway. They just want smart, educated people who can think and work hard.

Recruiting sessions for what?

1000000000+. DCUM parents with their STEM only mindset need to freaking wake up.

Asian parents…..because they wouldn’t be here otherwise. It is all that they know and understand.

Well, at least they know something, unlike white people here who only know to BS, talking for hours with no substance or any sign of cognition. No wonder the U.S. is falling apart to a shithole.

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Anonymous wrote:In recruiting sessions, my CS major is told over and over, we don't care what you majored in, we don't even look at that, we are going to trian you anyway. They just want smart, educated people who can think and work hard.

Recruiting sessions for what?

1000000000+. DCUM parents with their STEM only mindset need to freaking wake up.

Asian parents…..because they wouldn’t be here otherwise. It is all that they know and understand.

Some people just aren’t intelligent enough to do STEM. In fact, people good at STEM understand the world much better than their counterpart because it’s positively correlated with general intelligence.

[Anonymous]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP89KVLQY/

The hierarchy of hot tech jobs has flipped. You can now make close to a million dollars a year without a technical degree.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP89KVLQY/

The hierarchy of hot tech jobs has flipped. You can now make close to a million dollars a year without a technical degree.

Source: TikTok. The overall intelligence of DCUM posters really worries me.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP89KVLQY/

The hierarchy of hot tech jobs has flipped. You can now make close to a million dollars a year without a technical degree.

Source: TikTok. The overall intelligence of DCUM posters really worries me.

Yet again an outlier and you ascribe to all of DCUM. And targeting the platform is a red herring. What the guy is saying is sound and he’s only quoting legit articles.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP89KVLQY/

The hierarchy of hot tech jobs has flipped. You can now make close to a million dollars a year without a technical degree.

Source: TikTok. The overall intelligence of DCUM posters really worries me.

Yet again an outlier and you ascribe to all of DCUM. And targeting the platform is a red herring. What the guy is saying is sound and he’s only quoting legit articles.

Not an outlier of DCUM behavior.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP89KVLQY/

The hierarchy of hot tech jobs has flipped. You can now make close to a million dollars a year without a technical degree.

Source: TikTok. The overall intelligence of DCUM posters really worries me.

Yet again an outlier and you ascribe to all of DCUM. And targeting the platform is a red herring. What the guy is saying is sound and he’s only quoting legit articles.

Not an outlier of DCUM behavior.

Point still stands. Comment on the substance and not the platform.