Crown boundary study Option H

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Looks like Wootton becomes the new Crown HS (+ Rosemont ES?)

Crystal ball: does Wootton stay in the proposed Region 4 or become Region 5?

Now if Wootton goes to Region 5, that is the best thing that can happen to Region 5.

The board should seriously consider this to improve everything in Region 5. Right now region 5 is the dump in MCPS.

This will not only improve diversity (instead of just URM, the region will now have Asians too), it will give access to good cohorts for STEM in that region. A lot of Wootton kids go to Blair, now Wootton could be the STEM magnet for region 5. They could put Humanities in Gaithersburg.

[Anonymous]

And where does that leave Wootton students? With nothing. Region 5 is NOT a good deal for Wootton students. Beware.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like Wootton becomes the new Crown HS (+ Rosemont ES?)

Crystal ball: does Wootton stay in the proposed Region 4 or become Region 5?

Now if Wootton goes to Region 5, that is the best thing that can happen to Region 5.

The board should seriously consider this to improve everything in Region 5. Right now region 5 is the dump in MCPS.

This will not only improve diversity (instead of just URM, the region will now have Asians too), it will give access to good cohorts for STEM in that region. A lot of Wootton kids go to Blair, now Wootton could be the STEM magnet for region 5. They could put Humanities in Gaithersburg.

100 percent agree

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And where does that leave Wootton students? With nothing. Region 5 is NOT a good deal for Wootton students. Beware.

No, its not nothing if Wootton keeps the Stem magnet.

[Anonymous]

Either Poolesville or Wootton should be in Region 5 to improve that region. Anything other than that is segregating the region. Just because the parents in that area are poor does not mean the smart kids in that region should not have access to better cohorts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: Lmao. What a load of garbage to say “MCPS is looking at things holistically.”

We wouldn’t have been in this discussion if they are competent and professional! Bunch of politicians care about their own political agenda more than getting everyone prepared for college!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Idk, this makes a lot of sense to me.

+1 MCPS is looking at things holistically. Parents are looking at this as it impacts them directly, which is understandable. But, closing Wootton and moving them to Crown makes total sense given the declining enrollment overall and budgetary constraints.

And how does building 2 new HS, expanding some existing HS, and fixing up a crumbling HS in a cluster that is under capacity, all with declining enrollment and budget cuts a smart move?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:RM has 10 portables in use. There is still overcrowding at RM unless a plan addresses moving some students out of the RM cluster.

If you look at their projections, RM is capacity would be under 100% in the future.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FlFkN1iSGBikRuYzg7Q36XpHb4p2qc9P/view

I don't know if these projections are accurate (I'm very suspect of any numbers MCPS puts out), but if it is accurate, then it makes total sense to not redraw the RM boundary, and move Wootton to Crown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:RM has 10 portables in use. There is still overcrowding at RM unless a plan addresses moving some students out of the RM cluster.

If you look at their projections, RM is capacity would be under 100% in the future.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FlFkN1iSGBikRuYzg7Q36XpHb4p2qc9P/view

I don't know if these projections are accurate (I'm very suspect of any numbers MCPS puts out), but if it is accurate, then it makes total sense to not redraw the RM boundary, and move Wootton to Crown.

I sort of question the effects tables.

For Option H, it's saying moving the Crown/Decloverly/Rio area that currently goes to Rosemont to the new Crown School won't really change Gaithersburg HS's numbers:

2031-32 projection: 2497->2456
FARMS: 49.6 pct->49.5 pct
EML: 27.8 pct->28.5 pct

Then for Wootton/Crown absorbing that area:
2031-32 projection: 1937->1999
FARMS: 14 pct->14.8 pct
EML: 3.1 pct->3.3 pct

Are there really that little amount of students in the Crown/Decloverly/Rio area?

Then the current Rosemont boundaries looks like it's a couple of islands and the school has 62.4 percent FARMS.

If the resulting FARMS numbers don't change that much for the high schools, are they pulling from the nonFARMS population of Rosemont to send them to the new Crown school? Or are the numbers so small that they just get absorbed by the larger high school numbers/population? According to mdreportcard at Rosemont 354 out of the 567 students are eligible for FARMS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:RM has 10 portables in use. There is still overcrowding at RM unless a plan addresses moving some students out of the RM cluster.

If you look at their projections, RM is capacity would be under 100% in the future.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FlFkN1iSGBikRuYzg7Q36XpHb4p2qc9P/view

I don't know if these projections are accurate (I'm very suspect of any numbers MCPS puts out), but if it is accurate, then it makes total sense to not redraw the RM boundary, and move Wootton to Crown.

I sort of question the effects tables.

For Option H, it's saying moving the Crown/Decloverly/Rio area that currently goes to Rosemont to the new Crown School won't really change Gaithersburg HS's numbers:

2031-32 projection: 2497->2456
FARMS: 49.6 pct->49.5 pct
EML: 27.8 pct->28.5 pct

Then for Wootton/Crown absorbing that area:
2031-32 projection: 1937->1999
FARMS: 14 pct->14.8 pct
EML: 3.1 pct->3.3 pct

Are there really that little amount of students in the Crown/Decloverly/Rio area?

Then the current Rosemont boundaries looks like it's a couple of islands and the school has 62.4 percent FARMS.

If the resulting FARMS numbers don't change that much for the high schools, are they pulling from the nonFARMS population of Rosemont to send them to the new Crown school? Or are the numbers so small that they just get absorbed by the larger high school numbers/population? According to mdreportcard at Rosemont 354 out of the 567 students are eligible for FARMS.

Under option H, the area for Fields ES would go to Gaithersburg HS. Fields Road ES has 52.7 percent FARMS and might explain why Gaitherburg HS's FARMS numbers won't change much if swapping out the Crown area for Fields Road ES. QO's FARMS rate goes down by 10 percent with having the Fields Road ES area get reassigned to another high school.

[Anonymous]

How is Washingtonian Woods feeling about possibly going to Gaithersburg? They thought they’d be going to Crown, but now Gaithersburg seems more likely.

[Anonymous]

Do their projections include the development that is supposed to happen along Research Blvd? That would be a route many Wootton kids would take to Crown. Before these new options came along, I was wondering if the future Research Blvd students were being into the boundary study and if so, which schools...

[Anonymous]

Former admin in Moco. For all those saying great things about Churchill- you should spend a day there. That school is not what it used to be and it’s gone down hill significantly. I can’t see why the Potomac parents wouldn’t have loved their kids at wootton which ranks higher now

[Anonymous]

Honestly, MCPS could do a mini-renovation at Wootton to fix many of the more egregious issues. If there are classrooms that are problematic, then temporary classrooms for a few years is the answer until permanent fixes can be made. Based on what a PP indicated about the age of all of the other high schools in the area, Wootton doesn't seem like an outlier at all.

The idea that Wootton has been crumbling for years (more than a decade), yet MCPS now can't find the money to do a full scale renovation until 2035 appears intentional. The Wootton -> Crown -> rename Crown to Wootton seems like a transparent attempt to transplant all of the high-achieving kids from Wootton to Crown (by dangling a new building), then steal the reputation of Wootton as a high-achieving school. FYI, Wootton gained significant national recognition in the early 2000s, particularly when it was named a National Blue Ribbon School of Excellence in 2002.

Option H - MCPS creates a high-achieving school without the 20-30 years that it takes to develop one organically. Pats itself on the back for meeting its goals....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, MCPS could do a mini-renovation at Wootton to fix many of the more egregious issues. If there are classrooms that are problematic, then temporary classrooms for a few years is the answer until permanent fixes can be made. Based on what a PP indicated about the age of all of the other high schools in the area, Wootton doesn't seem like an outlier at all.

The idea that Wootton has been crumbling for years (more than a decade), yet MCPS now can't find the money to do a full scale renovation until 2035 appears intentional. The Wootton -> Crown -> rename Crown to Wootton seems like a transparent attempt to transplant all of the high-achieving kids from Wootton to Crown (by dangling a new building), then steal the reputation of Wootton as a high-achieving school. FYI, Wootton gained significant national recognition in the early 2000s, particularly when it was named a National Blue Ribbon School of Excellence in 2002.

Option H - MCPS creates a high-achieving school without the 20-30 years that it takes to develop one organically. Pats itself on the back for meeting its goals....

I mean, it would basically be the same school in a different location/building? I don't see how it would be stealing another school's reputation-- how do you steal from yourself?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, MCPS could do a mini-renovation at Wootton to fix many of the more egregious issues. If there are classrooms that are problematic, then temporary classrooms for a few years is the answer until permanent fixes can be made. Based on what a PP indicated about the age of all of the other high schools in the area, Wootton doesn't seem like an outlier at all.

The idea that Wootton has been crumbling for years (more than a decade), yet MCPS now can't find the money to do a full scale renovation until 2035 appears intentional. The Wootton -> Crown -> rename Crown to Wootton seems like a transparent attempt to transplant all of the high-achieving kids from Wootton to Crown (by dangling a new building), then steal the reputation of Wootton as a high-achieving school. FYI, Wootton gained significant national recognition in the early 2000s, particularly when it was named a National Blue Ribbon School of Excellence in 2002.

Option H - MCPS creates a high-achieving school without the 20-30 years that it takes to develop one organically. Pats itself on the back for meeting its goals....

I mean, it would basically be the same school in a different location/building? I don't see how it would be stealing another school's reputation-- how do you steal from yourself?

Nope. The new Wootton would be a mix of the old Wootton and the kids that would have gone to Crown.