APS ending block scheduling?

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Anonymous wrote:There was another thread talking about how outcomes at HB are better, more NMSFs at HB, etc. Could it be that HB has regular length class periods instead of long blocks? APS should look at this. Most kids can't pay attention for 90 minutes of math, so much wasted time in blocks.

The parent population at HB is different than the other schools. They have 100% parental GAF.

Compare behavioral issues and absenteeism between the schools. HB’s success has nothing to do with length of classes.

But how do you know this? You don't. This is just your opinion, which is uninformed. The length of classes might have something to do with it. It's worth looking it, not just dismissing outright.

I am no fan of block schedules but the differences in outcomes between HB and the other schools do not prove that block schedules are worse. They have a very different population, don't have to deal with overcrowding or students starting half way through high school after moving from another country (and not speaking the language).

It's something to look at. We won't know if they prove something or not without even looking at it. APS has a school without block scheduling and schools with it. So they have the data and they should look at it. Also, it is false that HB does not have students who moved from another county and don't know the language. Clearly you don't know what you're talking about.

If they want to look at the data, they could compare the SOL scores for the one class that is not block scheduled to the other classes. that would not be perfect but I would be interested to see the data.

Let’s compare SOL scores between classes with high absenteeism and those with low absenteeism.

Block scheduling or not… doesn’t matter when kids aren’t showing up to class.

Absenteeism may be linked to block scheduling (or not) if students skip because they are unable to deal with the longer classes.

That’s not true. You are making things up now.

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Anonymous wrote:There was another thread talking about how outcomes at HB are better, more NMSFs at HB, etc. Could it be that HB has regular length class periods instead of long blocks? APS should look at this. Most kids can't pay attention for 90 minutes of math, so much wasted time in blocks.

The parent population at HB is different than the other schools. They have 100% parental GAF.

Compare behavioral issues and absenteeism between the schools. HB’s success has nothing to do with length of classes.

A lot of slackers and also sped at HB.

There is no way to know that because APS tracks the sped, FERS, and demographics at their assigned neighborhood school, it’s not reported for HBW. It’s a complete black box.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is in college now and found that the block scheduling prepared them well for the long twice a week classes. Their friends who never had block have more of an adjustment. The 50 minute 3x a week classes actually felt like breeze in college.

+1. My kids loved block scheduling too. It prepared them well for college and also helped them figure out how to manage their time regarding homework and assignments.

But it’s nothing like college. That’s a fake equivalency. College classes are not as long, you can get up and go the bathroom easily or go get a breath of fresh air, you don’t have 4 classes a day.

Who gets up to go to the bathroom or for fresh air in college outside of an actual break? Is that some new zoomer thing because most of the profs I had would've been a bit peeved with the frequent interruptions.

Oh I went to an Ivy, and we had a lot of autonomy and they treated us like adults. Was it really different at other schools?

Literally the antithesis of adult if you don't know the difference between can and should. It's literally only 50-80 mins of sitting. Are you really that pathetic?

I did not mean to upset you, I’m sorry this causes such strong emotion for you. I was referring to how some schools still act somewhat in loco parentis, with more rules and conventions.

Are you a different pp — your post doesn’t say “should”, so perhaps you have mixed up threads.

Anyways, a profrssor knew we were serious students so if you needed to excuse yourself for a moment they just proceeded as normal.

Far different than high school block where it’s a negotiation every time if you need to use the restroom or get some water, and it’s block schedule from 8am - 3pm every day.

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Anonymous wrote:There was another thread talking about how outcomes at HB are better, more NMSFs at HB, etc. Could it be that HB has regular length class periods instead of long blocks? APS should look at this. Most kids can't pay attention for 90 minutes of math, so much wasted time in blocks.

The parent population at HB is different than the other schools. They have 100% parental GAF.

Compare behavioral issues and absenteeism between the schools. HB’s success has nothing to do with length of classes.

But how do you know this? You don't. This is just your opinion, which is uninformed. The length of classes might have something to do with it. It's worth looking it, not just dismissing outright.

I am no fan of block schedules but the differences in outcomes between HB and the other schools do not prove that block schedules are worse. They have a very different population, don't have to deal with overcrowding or students starting half way through high school after moving from another country (and not speaking the language).

It's something to look at. We won't know if they prove something or not without even looking at it. APS has a school without block scheduling and schools with it. So they have the data and they should look at it. Also, it is false that HB does not have students who moved from another county and don't know the language. Clearly you don't know what you're talking about.

If they want to look at the data, they could compare the SOL scores for the one class that is not block scheduled to the other classes. that would not be perfect but I would be interested to see the data.

Let’s compare SOL scores between classes with high absenteeism and those with low absenteeism.

Block scheduling or not… doesn’t matter when kids aren’t showing up to class.

Absenteeism may be linked to block scheduling (or not) if students skip because they are unable to deal with the longer classes.

That’s not true. You are making things up now.

That is hard to track. But it can mean you essentially miss two days of instruction for a class with block scheduling, which in some ways can be worse than missing 1 day in more classes for many cumulative subjects.

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Anonymous wrote:There was another thread talking about how outcomes at HB are better, more NMSFs at HB, etc. Could it be that HB has regular length class periods instead of long blocks? APS should look at this. Most kids can't pay attention for 90 minutes of math, so much wasted time in blocks.

The parent population at HB is different than the other schools. They have 100% parental GAF.

Compare behavioral issues and absenteeism between the schools. HB’s success has nothing to do with length of classes.

But how do you know this? You don't. This is just your opinion, which is uninformed. The length of classes might have something to do with it. It's worth looking it, not just dismissing outright.

I am no fan of block schedules but the differences in outcomes between HB and the other schools do not prove that block schedules are worse. They have a very different population, don't have to deal with overcrowding or students starting half way through high school after moving from another country (and not speaking the language).

It's something to look at. We won't know if they prove something or not without even looking at it. APS has a school without block scheduling and schools with it. So they have the data and they should look at it. Also, it is false that HB does not have students who moved from another county and don't know the language. Clearly you don't know what you're talking about.

If they want to look at the data, they could compare the SOL scores for the one class that is not block scheduled to the other classes. that would not be perfect but I would be interested to see the data.

Let’s compare SOL scores between classes with high absenteeism and those with low absenteeism.

Block scheduling or not… doesn’t matter when kids aren’t showing up to class.

Absenteeism may be linked to block scheduling (or not) if students skip because they are unable to deal with the longer classes.

That’s not true. You are making things up now.

How do you know it's not? We should look at all angles. People have made wild claims about the cause of absenteeism, why is this one any less valid?

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Anonymous wrote:There are many kids at HB who come not knowing English at all. The big difference in my experience (have 1 at HB, 1 at a countywide) is that the teachers care more. A lot of teachers at countywide don’t care or are overworked and checked out.

Sure, but they don’t enter HB in February of 10th/11th/12th grade. What part of that don’t you understand?

Yes they do! What part of this don't YOU understand?

They do not. In the event a spot opens up it goes to someone on the waitlist

You just don't know what you don't know. Keep spewing your ignorance.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is in college now and found that the block scheduling prepared them well for the long twice a week classes. Their friends who never had block have more of an adjustment. The 50 minute 3x a week classes actually felt like breeze in college.

+1. My kids loved block scheduling too. It prepared them well for college and also helped them figure out how to manage their time regarding homework and assignments.

But it’s nothing like college. That’s a fake equivalency. College classes are not as long, you can get up and go the bathroom easily or go get a breath of fresh air, you don’t have 4 classes a day.

Who gets up to go to the bathroom or for fresh air in college outside of an actual break? Is that some new zoomer thing because most of the profs I had would've been a bit peeved with the frequent interruptions.

Oh I went to an Ivy, and we had a lot of autonomy and they treated us like adults. Was it really different at other schools?

+1 this was my experience too, not sure who this person is or where they went to college.

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Anonymous wrote:There was another thread talking about how outcomes at HB are better, more NMSFs at HB, etc. Could it be that HB has regular length class periods instead of long blocks? APS should look at this. Most kids can't pay attention for 90 minutes of math, so much wasted time in blocks.

The parent population at HB is different than the other schools. They have 100% parental GAF.

Compare behavioral issues and absenteeism between the schools. HB’s success has nothing to do with length of classes.

But how do you know this? You don't. This is just your opinion, which is uninformed. The length of classes might have something to do with it. It's worth looking it, not just dismissing outright.

I am no fan of block schedules but the differences in outcomes between HB and the other schools do not prove that block schedules are worse. They have a very different population, don't have to deal with overcrowding or students starting half way through high school after moving from another country (and not speaking the language).

It's something to look at. We won't know if they prove something or not without even looking at it. APS has a school without block scheduling and schools with it. So they have the data and they should look at it. Also, it is false that HB does not have students who moved from another county and don't know the language. Clearly you don't know what you're talking about.

PP said they don’t have anyone starting halfway through HS after moving from another country and not knowing the language. Which is true.

You keep spewing untruths.
HB has a lot of English learners.

HB really doesn’t have anyone starting mid year or mid -HS career. The waitlist doesn’t really move, and won’t have ANYONE who just moved from another country, because they would be at bottom of waitlist.

wrong

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is in college now and found that the block scheduling prepared them well for the long twice a week classes. Their friends who never had block have more of an adjustment. The 50 minute 3x a week classes actually felt like breeze in college.

+1. My kids loved block scheduling too. It prepared them well for college and also helped them figure out how to manage their time regarding homework and assignments.

But it’s nothing like college. That’s a fake equivalency. College classes are not as long, you can get up and go the bathroom easily or go get a breath of fresh air, you don’t have 4 classes a day.

Who gets up to go to the bathroom or for fresh air in college outside of an actual break? Is that some new zoomer thing because most of the profs I had would've been a bit peeved with the frequent interruptions.

Oh I went to an Ivy, and we had a lot of autonomy and they treated us like adults. Was it really different at other schools?

Literally the antithesis of adult if you don't know the difference between can and should. It's literally only 50-80 mins of sitting. Are you really that pathetic?

Gosh, you can't have a conversation without hurling insults. What is wrong with you?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are many kids at HB who come not knowing English at all. The big difference in my experience (have 1 at HB, 1 at a countywide) is that the teachers care more. A lot of teachers at countywide don’t care or are overworked and checked out.

Sure, but they don’t enter HB in February of 10th/11th/12th grade. What part of that don’t you understand?

Yes they do! What part of this don't YOU understand?

They do not. In the event a spot opens up it goes to someone on the waitlist

You just don't know what you don't know. Keep spewing your ignorance.

So you are suggesting a family moves to the US and into APS, and they transfer to HBW by bypassing the hundreds long waitlist?? So there are HBW back doors, which has been hinted at before?

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Anonymous wrote:There are many kids at HB who come not knowing English at all. The big difference in my experience (have 1 at HB, 1 at a countywide) is that the teachers care more. A lot of teachers at countywide don’t care or are overworked and checked out.

Sure, but they don’t enter HB in February of 10th/11th/12th grade. What part of that don’t you understand?

Yes they do! What part of this don't YOU understand?

They do not. In the event a spot opens up it goes to someone on the waitlist

You just don't know what you don't know. Keep spewing your ignorance.

So you are suggesting a family moves to the US and into APS, and they transfer to HBW by bypassing the hundreds long waitlist?? So there are HBW back doors, which has been hinted at before?

Not a backdoor at all, there is a program for English learners. Unless you consider that a backdoor, I don't.

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Anonymous wrote:There are many kids at HB who come not knowing English at all. The big difference in my experience (have 1 at HB, 1 at a countywide) is that the teachers care more. A lot of teachers at countywide don’t care or are overworked and checked out.

Sure, but they don’t enter HB in February of 10th/11th/12th grade. What part of that don’t you understand?

Yes they do! What part of this don't YOU understand?

They do not. In the event a spot opens up it goes to someone on the waitlist

You just don't know what you don't know. Keep spewing your ignorance.

So you are suggesting a family moves to the US and into APS, and they transfer to HBW by bypassing the hundreds long waitlist?? So there are HBW back doors, which has been hinted at before?

there is a program for English learners but if a new refugee family moves here in March, those kids are not going to show up at the doorstep of HB in March and get a seat.

Not a backdoor at all, there is a program for English learners. Unless you consider that a backdoor, I don't.

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Anonymous wrote:There are many kids at HB who come not knowing English at all. The big difference in my experience (have 1 at HB, 1 at a countywide) is that the teachers care more. A lot of teachers at countywide don’t care or are overworked and checked out.

Sure, but they don’t enter HB in February of 10th/11th/12th grade. What part of that don’t you understand?

Yes they do! What part of this don't YOU understand?

They do not. In the event a spot opens up it goes to someone on the waitlist

You just don't know what you don't know. Keep spewing your ignorance.

So you are suggesting a family moves to the US and into APS, and they transfer to HBW by bypassing the hundreds long waitlist?? So there are HBW back doors, which has been hinted at before?

there is a program for English learners but if a new refugee family moves here in March, those kids are not going to show up at the doorstep of HB in March and get a seat.

Not a backdoor at all, there is a program for English learners. Unless you consider that a backdoor, I don't.

Oh so a moment ago you didn't even know this program exists and now you're an expert on what they don't do? Give me a break! Go have a seat and let the adults who have a clue talk.

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I’m a teacher. Learning to teach blocks was hard. Takes a lot of creativity to keep them engaged and keep it moving, and it’s important to do so- 90 minutes is long. As a parent, there are advantages and disadvantages to both. Would love math and language every day. Also like that my kid can focus on homework and prep for 3-4 classes a day instead of 7. I think I could go back, but I do wish we’d pick a lane.

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Anonymous wrote:There are many kids at HB who come not knowing English at all. The big difference in my experience (have 1 at HB, 1 at a countywide) is that the teachers care more. A lot of teachers at countywide don’t care or are overworked and checked out.

Sure, but they don’t enter HB in February of 10th/11th/12th grade. What part of that don’t you understand?

Yes they do! What part of this don't YOU understand?

They do not. In the event a spot opens up it goes to someone on the waitlist

You just don't know what you don't know. Keep spewing your ignorance.

So you are suggesting a family moves to the US and into APS, and they transfer to HBW by bypassing the hundreds long waitlist?? So there are HBW back doors, which has been hinted at before?

there is a program for English learners but if a new refugee family moves here in March, those kids are not going to show up at the doorstep of HB in March and get a seat.

Not a backdoor at all, there is a program for English learners. Unless you consider that a backdoor, I don't.

Oh so a moment ago you didn't even know this program exists and now you're an expert on what they don't do? Give me a break! Go have a seat and let the adults who have a clue talk.

That is a different poster. So the scenario you describe is someone leaves HBW who is part of this programs and that same month, a new family immigrates and takes their spot and there is no waitlist for English language learners? Can you link to this program? I actually have trouble with my English too all of a sudden.