Thursday Nov 20 BOE Discussion on Boundaries and Regional Program Model

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:FYI - the original link posted in the OP is broken. There is a revised PPT and new document on budget and transportation posted in the BOE agenda for today which can be accessed here: https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/goto?open&id=DJMGHC43C32B

Yet they still have the creepy AI images of the students of color who have warped faces when you zoom in.

Here is the link to the presentation: https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DNLJE34CC316/$file/Boundary%20Studies%20Program%20Analysis%20Update%20251120%20PPT%20REV.pdf

And to the budget: https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DNLJXC4F4A19/$file/Regional%20Program%20Model%20FY2027-2031%20Budget%20251120.pdf

Save them now before they take them down.

The transportation stuff at the end of the budget doc makes no sense. There will only be 3 new program buses per school in year 1, even in 5-school regions? But actually it's only 1 additional net bus per school because exactly 78% of kids at every single school used to be a local bus rider and so every local school can cut two local bus routes? And then the transportation costs only increase a little more above that in future years and then by year 5 it becomes cost savings?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here's the ppt
Boundary Studies Program Analysis Update 251120 PPT.pdf https://share.google/M0lQdbx2jTMlewfP9

They seem to be frantically adding programs to address concerns. BCC now getting an interest based engineering program so they can siphon off more wealthy students from Einstein and Northwood, so awesome.

Northwood still screwed. People complained about it not having an academic criteria-based program and so they added.... agroecology, whatever the heck that is?

Meanwhile Whitman still has a criteria-based humanities magnet and BCC still has a criteria-based IB magnet, and they are doubling down on local schools getting extra local set-aside seats (as many as twice their fair share, ie. 15 compared to 30 shared among the other 4 schools or 25 compared to 60 shared among the other 4 schools.). So a humanities kid from the DCC not only has to travel all the way go BCC or Whitman for a magnet, but the BCC and Whitman kids have a much higher chance of getting in.

SMH. This is all so terribly inequitable.

+1 Agroecology is so random and I have no faith that the district has any idea what it is either. The wording in some of these slides is desperate.

What a bizarre program for an urban high school. MCPS must have pulled this off some "Jobs of the Future" website as they cast about for something to put at Northwood. Perhaps MCPS should listen to the community for what it desires.

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Is it bizarre though? How is that any different than kids from DC who go on to major in Petroleum Engineering? Agriculture and ecology are major fields that have a lot of jobs and opportunity. Include working for laboratories, non-profits, and government. Its also worth nothing that MoCo has an whole AgReserve.

I can have issue with this Program Analysis while also being forward thinking, open minded, and strategic.

Northwood had/has the CASE agriculture program so this isn't completely random. I think they would have done better by focusing more on ecology/environment than agriculture, but it's not out of nowhere.

They changed this in the latest slides. It’s now Environmental Science.

The Northwood principal said it is still the same CASE program but they gave it a new name because people kept asking what even is agricultural ecology

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The problem is that even at Northwood no one is interested in CASE. The counselors keep stuffing the CASE classes with random kids who need an elective or CTE credit. Why would they elevate Case to a regional program. They are determined to shove it down peoples throats but they would never dare do that at Whitman or Churchill

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's the ppt
Boundary Studies Program Analysis Update 251120 PPT.pdf https://share.google/M0lQdbx2jTMlewfP9

They seem to be frantically adding programs to address concerns. BCC now getting an interest based engineering program so they can siphon off more wealthy students from Einstein and Northwood, so awesome.

Northwood still screwed. People complained about it not having an academic criteria-based program and so they added.... agroecology, whatever the heck that is?

Meanwhile Whitman still has a criteria-based humanities magnet and BCC still has a criteria-based IB magnet, and they are doubling down on local schools getting extra local set-aside seats (as many as twice their fair share, ie. 15 compared to 30 shared among the other 4 schools or 25 compared to 60 shared among the other 4 schools.). So a humanities kid from the DCC not only has to travel all the way go BCC or Whitman for a magnet, but the BCC and Whitman kids have a much higher chance of getting in.

SMH. This is all so terribly inequitable.

+1 Agroecology is so random and I have no faith that the district has any idea what it is either. The wording in some of these slides is desperate.

What a bizarre program for an urban high school. MCPS must have pulled this off some "Jobs of the Future" website as they cast about for something to put at Northwood. Perhaps MCPS should listen to the community for what it desires.

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Is it bizarre though? How is that any different than kids from DC who go on to major in Petroleum Engineering? Agriculture and ecology are major fields that have a lot of jobs and opportunity. Include working for laboratories, non-profits, and government. Its also worth nothing that MoCo has an whole AgReserve.

I can have issue with this Program Analysis while also being forward thinking, open minded, and strategic.

So perhaps this is a good program for Poolesville HS, with proximity to the ag reserve? Was this a program that Northwood expressed a desire to host?

No. Northwood never asked for this program. Central office forced it on Northwood.

[Anonymous]

This was just added--sample pathways doc.

https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DNLRYN704ACA/$file/WORKING%20DRAFT%20Sample%20Regional%20Programs%20Pathways%20251120.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:This was just added--sample pathways doc.

https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DNLRYN704ACA/$file/WORKING%20DRAFT%20Sample%20Regional%20Programs%20Pathways%20251120.pdf

Giving Northwood Theatre doesn’t make sense when Einstein STAGE is so reputable. Also the Einstein Dance teacher has been working alongside MCPS to better develop their dance programs for years. What a slap in the face.

[Anonymous]

Niki Porter and Adnan Mamoon have to answer for those horrifying AI pictures. Seriously, zoom in on them. They are bizarre mangled faces. This shows how little judgement and review went into this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This was just added--sample pathways doc.

https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DNLRYN704ACA/$file/WORKING%20DRAFT%20Sample%20Regional%20Programs%20Pathways%20251120.pdf

I’ll tell you what. They did their homework. I still don’t know that a first semester 8th grader can evaluate some of the trade offs of some of these pathways. Like, yes, you love dance as a 13 year old, but are you sure you’re ok to drop social studies and science senior year and only do one year of world language, and be ok with how that works with college admissions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FYI - the original link posted in the OP is broken. There is a revised PPT and new document on budget and transportation posted in the BOE agenda for today which can be accessed here: https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/goto?open&id=DJMGHC43C32B

Yet they still have the creepy AI images of the students of color who have warped faces when you zoom in.

Here is the link to the presentation: https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DNLJE34CC316/$file/Boundary%20Studies%20Program%20Analysis%20Update%20251120%20PPT%20REV.pdf

And to the budget: https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DNLJXC4F4A19/$file/Regional%20Program%20Model%20FY2027-2031%20Budget%20251120.pdf

Save them now before they take them down.

The transportation stuff at the end of the budget doc makes no sense. There will only be 3 new program buses per school in year 1, even in 5-school regions? But actually it's only 1 additional net bus per school because exactly 78% of kids at every single school used to be a local bus rider and so every local school can cut two local bus routes? And then the transportation costs only increase a little more above that in future years and then by year 5 it becomes cost savings?

It makes sense as the busses will stop at multiple schools and they are only letting maybe 20 kids from each school go to other schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was just added--sample pathways doc.

https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DNLRYN704ACA/$file/WORKING%20DRAFT%20Sample%20Regional%20Programs%20Pathways%20251120.pdf

I’ll tell you what. They did their homework. I still don’t know that a first semester 8th grader can evaluate some of the trade offs of some of these pathways. Like, yes, you love dance as a 13 year old, but are you sure you’re ok to drop social studies and science senior year and only do one year of world language, and be ok with how that works with college admissions?

All colleges want at least two years, but they are probably including foreign language in MS. You can drop social studies and science in 12th if you get your requirements in. Central office has no idea about graduation requirements.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was just added--sample pathways doc.

https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DNLRYN704ACA/$file/WORKING%20DRAFT%20Sample%20Regional%20Programs%20Pathways%20251120.pdf

Giving Northwood Theatre doesn’t make sense when Einstein STAGE is so reputable. Also the Einstein Dance teacher has been working alongside MCPS to better develop their dance programs for years. What a slap in the face.

They weren't going to give either school any good helpful academic programs so this was all that was left to split. Northwood should be stem, Einstein Arts or vice versa.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's the ppt
Boundary Studies Program Analysis Update 251120 PPT.pdf https://share.google/M0lQdbx2jTMlewfP9

They seem to be frantically adding programs to address concerns. BCC now getting an interest based engineering program so they can siphon off more wealthy students from Einstein and Northwood, so awesome.

Northwood still screwed. People complained about it not having an academic criteria-based program and so they added.... agroecology, whatever the heck that is?

Meanwhile Whitman still has a criteria-based humanities magnet and BCC still has a criteria-based IB magnet, and they are doubling down on local schools getting extra local set-aside seats (as many as twice their fair share, ie. 15 compared to 30 shared among the other 4 schools or 25 compared to 60 shared among the other 4 schools.). So a humanities kid from the DCC not only has to travel all the way go BCC or Whitman for a magnet, but the BCC and Whitman kids have a much higher chance of getting in.

SMH. This is all so terribly inequitable.

+1 Agroecology is so random and I have no faith that the district has any idea what it is either. The wording in some of these slides is desperate.

What a bizarre program for an urban high school. MCPS must have pulled this off some "Jobs of the Future" website as they cast about for something to put at Northwood. Perhaps MCPS should listen to the community for what it desires.

/
Is it bizarre though? How is that any different than kids from DC who go on to major in Petroleum Engineering? Agriculture and ecology are major fields that have a lot of jobs and opportunity. Include working for laboratories, non-profits, and government. Its also worth nothing that MoCo has an whole AgReserve.

I can have issue with this Program Analysis while also being forward thinking, open minded, and strategic.

Northwood had/has the CASE agriculture program so this isn't completely random. I think they would have done better by focusing more on ecology/environment than agriculture, but it's not out of nowhere.

That's really random given its in a surburban area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Niki Porter and Adnan Mamoon have to answer for those horrifying AI pictures. Seriously, zoom in on them. They are bizarre mangled faces. This shows how little judgement and review went into this.

It is awful. And they kept it in even after updating the slides. Truly no judgment.

[Anonymous]

And then Porter laughed and said "don't look at that picture too closely"

[Anonymous]

I am really not hearing any concerns from the BoE, other than a bit from Silvestre.