Thursday Nov 20 BOE Discussion on Boundaries and Regional Program Model

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Anonymous wrote:FYI - the original link posted in the OP is broken. There is a revised PPT and new document on budget and transportation posted in the BOE agenda for today which can be accessed here: https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/goto?open&id=DJMGHC43C32B

Yet they still have the creepy AI images of the students of color who have warped faces when you zoom in.

Here is the link to the presentation: https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DNLJE34CC316/$file/Boundary%20Studies%20Program%20Analysis%20Update%20251120%20PPT%20REV.pdf

And to the budget: https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DNLJXC4F4A19/$file/Regional%20Program%20Model%20FY2027-2031%20Budget%20251120.pdf

Save them now before they take them down.

OMG and the messaging on those slides is just awful. Very tokenistic, and a disingenuous and offensive use of BIPOC kids, even creepy AI kids.

+1000

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Anonymous wrote:Here's the ppt
Boundary Studies Program Analysis Update 251120 PPT.pdf https://share.google/M0lQdbx2jTMlewfP9

They seem to be frantically adding programs to address concerns. BCC now getting an interest based engineering program so they can siphon off more wealthy students from Einstein and Northwood, so awesome.

Northwood still screwed. People complained about it not having an academic criteria-based program and so they added.... agroecology, whatever the heck that is?

Meanwhile Whitman still has a criteria-based humanities magnet and BCC still has a criteria-based IB magnet, and they are doubling down on local schools getting extra local set-aside seats (as many as twice their fair share, ie. 15 compared to 30 shared among the other 4 schools or 25 compared to 60 shared among the other 4 schools.). So a humanities kid from the DCC not only has to travel all the way go BCC or Whitman for a magnet, but the BCC and Whitman kids have a much higher chance of getting in.

SMH. This is all so terribly inequitable.

+1 Agroecology is so random and I have no faith that the district has any idea what it is either. The wording in some of these slides is desperate.

What a bizarre program for an urban high school. MCPS must have pulled this off some "Jobs of the Future" website as they cast about for something to put at Northwood. Perhaps MCPS should listen to the community for what it desires.

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Is it bizarre though? How is that any different than kids from DC who go on to major in Petroleum Engineering? Agriculture and ecology are major fields that have a lot of jobs and opportunity. Include working for laboratories, non-profits, and government. Its also worth nothing that MoCo has an whole AgReserve.

I can have issue with this Program Analysis while also being forward thinking, open minded, and strategic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lots of talk about serving the very top of the top students. What about the bulk of college-bound students who are bright and capable, but won't qualify for the most competitive programs? Why do they always fall by the wayside when they make up the majority of students?

That is included on the presentation. If we're going to complain lets at least review the entire deck.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's the ppt
Boundary Studies Program Analysis Update 251120 PPT.pdf https://share.google/M0lQdbx2jTMlewfP9

They seem to be frantically adding programs to address concerns. BCC now getting an interest based engineering program so they can siphon off more wealthy students from Einstein and Northwood, so awesome.

Northwood still screwed. People complained about it not having an academic criteria-based program and so they added.... agroecology, whatever the heck that is?

Meanwhile Whitman still has a criteria-based humanities magnet and BCC still has a criteria-based IB magnet, and they are doubling down on local schools getting extra local set-aside seats (as many as twice their fair share, ie. 15 compared to 30 shared among the other 4 schools or 25 compared to 60 shared among the other 4 schools.). So a humanities kid from the DCC not only has to travel all the way go BCC or Whitman for a magnet, but the BCC and Whitman kids have a much higher chance of getting in.

SMH. This is all so terribly inequitable.

+1 Agroecology is so random and I have no faith that the district has any idea what it is either. The wording in some of these slides is desperate.

What a bizarre program for an urban high school. MCPS must have pulled this off some "Jobs of the Future" website as they cast about for something to put at Northwood. Perhaps MCPS should listen to the community for what it desires.

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Is it bizarre though? How is that any different than kids from DC who go on to major in Petroleum Engineering? Agriculture and ecology are major fields that have a lot of jobs and opportunity. Include working for laboratories, non-profits, and government. Its also worth nothing that MoCo has an whole AgReserve.

I can have issue with this Program Analysis while also being forward thinking, open minded, and strategic.

It is bizarre to create 6 identical niche programs of anything without any efforts to gauge interest.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's the ppt
Boundary Studies Program Analysis Update 251120 PPT.pdf https://share.google/M0lQdbx2jTMlewfP9

They seem to be frantically adding programs to address concerns. BCC now getting an interest based engineering program so they can siphon off more wealthy students from Einstein and Northwood, so awesome.

Northwood still screwed. People complained about it not having an academic criteria-based program and so they added.... agroecology, whatever the heck that is?

Meanwhile Whitman still has a criteria-based humanities magnet and BCC still has a criteria-based IB magnet, and they are doubling down on local schools getting extra local set-aside seats (as many as twice their fair share, ie. 15 compared to 30 shared among the other 4 schools or 25 compared to 60 shared among the other 4 schools.). So a humanities kid from the DCC not only has to travel all the way go BCC or Whitman for a magnet, but the BCC and Whitman kids have a much higher chance of getting in.

SMH. This is all so terribly inequitable.

+1 Agroecology is so random and I have no faith that the district has any idea what it is either. The wording in some of these slides is desperate.

What a bizarre program for an urban high school. MCPS must have pulled this off some "Jobs of the Future" website as they cast about for something to put at Northwood. Perhaps MCPS should listen to the community for what it desires.

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Is it bizarre though? How is that any different than kids from DC who go on to major in Petroleum Engineering? Agriculture and ecology are major fields that have a lot of jobs and opportunity. Include working for laboratories, non-profits, and government. Its also worth nothing that MoCo has an whole AgReserve.

I can have issue with this Program Analysis while also being forward thinking, open minded, and strategic.

It is bizarre to create 6 identical niche programs of anything without any efforts to gauge interest.

THIS!!!!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's the ppt
Boundary Studies Program Analysis Update 251120 PPT.pdf https://share.google/M0lQdbx2jTMlewfP9

They seem to be frantically adding programs to address concerns. BCC now getting an interest based engineering program so they can siphon off more wealthy students from Einstein and Northwood, so awesome.

Northwood still screwed. People complained about it not having an academic criteria-based program and so they added.... agroecology, whatever the heck that is?

Meanwhile Whitman still has a criteria-based humanities magnet and BCC still has a criteria-based IB magnet, and they are doubling down on local schools getting extra local set-aside seats (as many as twice their fair share, ie. 15 compared to 30 shared among the other 4 schools or 25 compared to 60 shared among the other 4 schools.). So a humanities kid from the DCC not only has to travel all the way go BCC or Whitman for a magnet, but the BCC and Whitman kids have a much higher chance of getting in.

SMH. This is all so terribly inequitable.

+1 Agroecology is so random and I have no faith that the district has any idea what it is either. The wording in some of these slides is desperate.

What a bizarre program for an urban high school. MCPS must have pulled this off some "Jobs of the Future" website as they cast about for something to put at Northwood. Perhaps MCPS should listen to the community for what it desires.

/
Is it bizarre though? How is that any different than kids from DC who go on to major in Petroleum Engineering? Agriculture and ecology are major fields that have a lot of jobs and opportunity. Include working for laboratories, non-profits, and government. Its also worth nothing that MoCo has an whole AgReserve.

I can have issue with this Program Analysis while also being forward thinking, open minded, and strategic.

Northwood had/has the CASE agriculture program so this isn't completely random. I think they would have done better by focusing more on ecology/environment than agriculture, but it's not out of nowhere.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's the ppt
Boundary Studies Program Analysis Update 251120 PPT.pdf https://share.google/M0lQdbx2jTMlewfP9

They seem to be frantically adding programs to address concerns. BCC now getting an interest based engineering program so they can siphon off more wealthy students from Einstein and Northwood, so awesome.

Northwood still screwed. People complained about it not having an academic criteria-based program and so they added.... agroecology, whatever the heck that is?

Meanwhile Whitman still has a criteria-based humanities magnet and BCC still has a criteria-based IB magnet, and they are doubling down on local schools getting extra local set-aside seats (as many as twice their fair share, ie. 15 compared to 30 shared among the other 4 schools or 25 compared to 60 shared among the other 4 schools.). So a humanities kid from the DCC not only has to travel all the way go BCC or Whitman for a magnet, but the BCC and Whitman kids have a much higher chance of getting in.

SMH. This is all so terribly inequitable.

+1 Agroecology is so random and I have no faith that the district has any idea what it is either. The wording in some of these slides is desperate.

What a bizarre program for an urban high school. MCPS must have pulled this off some "Jobs of the Future" website as they cast about for something to put at Northwood. Perhaps MCPS should listen to the community for what it desires.

/
Is it bizarre though? How is that any different than kids from DC who go on to major in Petroleum Engineering? Agriculture and ecology are major fields that have a lot of jobs and opportunity. Include working for laboratories, non-profits, and government. Its also worth nothing that MoCo has an whole AgReserve.

I can have issue with this Program Analysis while also being forward thinking, open minded, and strategic.

Northwood had/has the CASE agriculture program so this isn't completely random. I think they would have done better by focusing more on ecology/environment than agriculture, but it's not out of nowhere.

Is that a criteria-based program that draws top students from throughout the DCC? Genuinely asking.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here's the ppt
Boundary Studies Program Analysis Update 251120 PPT.pdf https://share.google/M0lQdbx2jTMlewfP9

They seem to be frantically adding programs to address concerns. BCC now getting an interest based engineering program so they can siphon off more wealthy students from Einstein and Northwood, so awesome.

Northwood still screwed. People complained about it not having an academic criteria-based program and so they added.... agroecology, whatever the heck that is?

Meanwhile Whitman still has a criteria-based humanities magnet and BCC still has a criteria-based IB magnet, and they are doubling down on local schools getting extra local set-aside seats (as many as twice their fair share, ie. 15 compared to 30 shared among the other 4 schools or 25 compared to 60 shared among the other 4 schools.). So a humanities kid from the DCC not only has to travel all the way go BCC or Whitman for a magnet, but the BCC and Whitman kids have a much higher chance of getting in.

SMH. This is all so terribly inequitable.

+1 Agroecology is so random and I have no faith that the district has any idea what it is either. The wording in some of these slides is desperate.

What a bizarre program for an urban high school. MCPS must have pulled this off some "Jobs of the Future" website as they cast about for something to put at Northwood. Perhaps MCPS should listen to the community for what it desires.

/
Is it bizarre though? How is that any different than kids from DC who go on to major in Petroleum Engineering? Agriculture and ecology are major fields that have a lot of jobs and opportunity. Include working for laboratories, non-profits, and government. Its also worth nothing that MoCo has an whole AgReserve.

I can have issue with this Program Analysis while also being forward thinking, open minded, and strategic.

Northwood had/has the CASE agriculture program so this isn't completely random. I think they would have done better by focusing more on ecology/environment than agriculture, but it's not out of nowhere.

Is that a criteria-based program that draws top students from throughout the DCC? Genuinely asking.

haha no. Why would Northwood have gotten anything good since it reopened? Northwood students are supposed to be satisfied with crumbs and unfulfilled promises. And to put up with long bus rides to a school without playing field or an auditorium. Because who gives a darn about what Black and brown kids experience?

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Getting an error message with the slide link shared in post 1. Is there an updated link?

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Anonymous wrote:Getting an error message with the slide link shared in post 1. Is there an updated link?

It is posted on page 7 of the thread

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Anonymous wrote:Here's the ppt
Boundary Studies Program Analysis Update 251120 PPT.pdf https://share.google/M0lQdbx2jTMlewfP9

They seem to be frantically adding programs to address concerns. BCC now getting an interest based engineering program so they can siphon off more wealthy students from Einstein and Northwood, so awesome.

Northwood still screwed. People complained about it not having an academic criteria-based program and so they added.... agroecology, whatever the heck that is?

Meanwhile Whitman still has a criteria-based humanities magnet and BCC still has a criteria-based IB magnet, and they are doubling down on local schools getting extra local set-aside seats (as many as twice their fair share, ie. 15 compared to 30 shared among the other 4 schools or 25 compared to 60 shared among the other 4 schools.). So a humanities kid from the DCC not only has to travel all the way go BCC or Whitman for a magnet, but the BCC and Whitman kids have a much higher chance of getting in.

SMH. This is all so terribly inequitable.

+1 Agroecology is so random and I have no faith that the district has any idea what it is either. The wording in some of these slides is desperate.

What a bizarre program for an urban high school. MCPS must have pulled this off some "Jobs of the Future" website as they cast about for something to put at Northwood. Perhaps MCPS should listen to the community for what it desires.

/
Is it bizarre though? How is that any different than kids from DC who go on to major in Petroleum Engineering? Agriculture and ecology are major fields that have a lot of jobs and opportunity. Include working for laboratories, non-profits, and government. Its also worth nothing that MoCo has an whole AgReserve.

I can have issue with this Program Analysis while also being forward thinking, open minded, and strategic.

Northwood had/has the CASE agriculture program so this isn't completely random. I think they would have done better by focusing more on ecology/environment than agriculture, but it's not out of nowhere.

They changed this in the latest slides. It’s now Environmental Science.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's the ppt
Boundary Studies Program Analysis Update 251120 PPT.pdf https://share.google/M0lQdbx2jTMlewfP9

They seem to be frantically adding programs to address concerns. BCC now getting an interest based engineering program so they can siphon off more wealthy students from Einstein and Northwood, so awesome.

Northwood still screwed. People complained about it not having an academic criteria-based program and so they added.... agroecology, whatever the heck that is?

Meanwhile Whitman still has a criteria-based humanities magnet and BCC still has a criteria-based IB magnet, and they are doubling down on local schools getting extra local set-aside seats (as many as twice their fair share, ie. 15 compared to 30 shared among the other 4 schools or 25 compared to 60 shared among the other 4 schools.). So a humanities kid from the DCC not only has to travel all the way go BCC or Whitman for a magnet, but the BCC and Whitman kids have a much higher chance of getting in.

SMH. This is all so terribly inequitable.

+1 Agroecology is so random and I have no faith that the district has any idea what it is either. The wording in some of these slides is desperate.

What a bizarre program for an urban high school. MCPS must have pulled this off some "Jobs of the Future" website as they cast about for something to put at Northwood. Perhaps MCPS should listen to the community for what it desires.

/
Is it bizarre though? How is that any different than kids from DC who go on to major in Petroleum Engineering? Agriculture and ecology are major fields that have a lot of jobs and opportunity. Include working for laboratories, non-profits, and government. Its also worth nothing that MoCo has an whole AgReserve.

I can have issue with this Program Analysis while also being forward thinking, open minded, and strategic.

Northwood had/has the CASE agriculture program so this isn't completely random. I think they would have done better by focusing more on ecology/environment than agriculture, but it's not out of nowhere.

Is that a criteria-based program that draws top students from throughout the DCC? Genuinely asking.

Yes, there are multiple criteria based programs for DCC students

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/school-info/downcounty/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here's the ppt
Boundary Studies Program Analysis Update 251120 PPT.pdf https://share.google/M0lQdbx2jTMlewfP9

They seem to be frantically adding programs to address concerns. BCC now getting an interest based engineering program so they can siphon off more wealthy students from Einstein and Northwood, so awesome.

Northwood still screwed. People complained about it not having an academic criteria-based program and so they added.... agroecology, whatever the heck that is?

Meanwhile Whitman still has a criteria-based humanities magnet and BCC still has a criteria-based IB magnet, and they are doubling down on local schools getting extra local set-aside seats (as many as twice their fair share, ie. 15 compared to 30 shared among the other 4 schools or 25 compared to 60 shared among the other 4 schools.). So a humanities kid from the DCC not only has to travel all the way go BCC or Whitman for a magnet, but the BCC and Whitman kids have a much higher chance of getting in.

SMH. This is all so terribly inequitable.

+1 Agroecology is so random and I have no faith that the district has any idea what it is either. The wording in some of these slides is desperate.

What a bizarre program for an urban high school. MCPS must have pulled this off some "Jobs of the Future" website as they cast about for something to put at Northwood. Perhaps MCPS should listen to the community for what it desires.

/
Is it bizarre though? How is that any different than kids from DC who go on to major in Petroleum Engineering? Agriculture and ecology are major fields that have a lot of jobs and opportunity. Include working for laboratories, non-profits, and government. Its also worth nothing that MoCo has an whole AgReserve.

I can have issue with this Program Analysis while also being forward thinking, open minded, and strategic.

Northwood had/has the CASE agriculture program so this isn't completely random. I think they would have done better by focusing more on ecology/environment than agriculture, but it's not out of nowhere.

They changed this in the latest slides. It’s now Environmental Science.

MCPS: We can definitely have 96 new programs completed and ready to operate by 2027!
Also MCPS: Hang on, wait, there is in error in the slideshow we submitted for a meeting. Whoops! Our bad! Let’s just fix that and try again. But don’t worry, we won’t make dumb mistakes with your kids, LOL!

This is why they need to slow their error-prone asses down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's the ppt
Boundary Studies Program Analysis Update 251120 PPT.pdf https://share.google/M0lQdbx2jTMlewfP9

They seem to be frantically adding programs to address concerns. BCC now getting an interest based engineering program so they can siphon off more wealthy students from Einstein and Northwood, so awesome.

Northwood still screwed. People complained about it not having an academic criteria-based program and so they added.... agroecology, whatever the heck that is?

Meanwhile Whitman still has a criteria-based humanities magnet and BCC still has a criteria-based IB magnet, and they are doubling down on local schools getting extra local set-aside seats (as many as twice their fair share, ie. 15 compared to 30 shared among the other 4 schools or 25 compared to 60 shared among the other 4 schools.). So a humanities kid from the DCC not only has to travel all the way go BCC or Whitman for a magnet, but the BCC and Whitman kids have a much higher chance of getting in.

SMH. This is all so terribly inequitable.

+1 Agroecology is so random and I have no faith that the district has any idea what it is either. The wording in some of these slides is desperate.

What a bizarre program for an urban high school. MCPS must have pulled this off some "Jobs of the Future" website as they cast about for something to put at Northwood. Perhaps MCPS should listen to the community for what it desires.

/
Is it bizarre though? How is that any different than kids from DC who go on to major in Petroleum Engineering? Agriculture and ecology are major fields that have a lot of jobs and opportunity. Include working for laboratories, non-profits, and government. Its also worth nothing that MoCo has an whole AgReserve.

I can have issue with this Program Analysis while also being forward thinking, open minded, and strategic.

So perhaps this is a good program for Poolesville HS, with proximity to the ag reserve? Was this a program that Northwood expressed a desire to host?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's the ppt
Boundary Studies Program Analysis Update 251120 PPT.pdf https://share.google/M0lQdbx2jTMlewfP9

They seem to be frantically adding programs to address concerns. BCC now getting an interest based engineering program so they can siphon off more wealthy students from Einstein and Northwood, so awesome.

Northwood still screwed. People complained about it not having an academic criteria-based program and so they added.... agroecology, whatever the heck that is?

Meanwhile Whitman still has a criteria-based humanities magnet and BCC still has a criteria-based IB magnet, and they are doubling down on local schools getting extra local set-aside seats (as many as twice their fair share, ie. 15 compared to 30 shared among the other 4 schools or 25 compared to 60 shared among the other 4 schools.). So a humanities kid from the DCC not only has to travel all the way go BCC or Whitman for a magnet, but the BCC and Whitman kids have a much higher chance of getting in.

SMH. This is all so terribly inequitable.

+1 Agroecology is so random and I have no faith that the district has any idea what it is either. The wording in some of these slides is desperate.

What a bizarre program for an urban high school. MCPS must have pulled this off some "Jobs of the Future" website as they cast about for something to put at Northwood. Perhaps MCPS should listen to the community for what it desires.

/
Is it bizarre though? How is that any different than kids from DC who go on to major in Petroleum Engineering? Agriculture and ecology are major fields that have a lot of jobs and opportunity. Include working for laboratories, non-profits, and government. Its also worth nothing that MoCo has an whole AgReserve.

I can have issue with this Program Analysis while also being forward thinking, open minded, and strategic.

So perhaps this is a good program for Poolesville HS, with proximity to the ag reserve? Was this a program that Northwood expressed a desire to host?

I heard it's just some program Northwood already has.