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I agree this has become a point of consideration. When touring schools, it was interesting to note how the schools dealt with this. Some were open about it, some discussed it's more pronounced depending on department (e.g. one tour guide was a Finance major and she said the ratio was overwhelmingly male) and some were squirrely about it (one AO said, "Well, it is known that there are more women in the world than men. My thought was, I asked about your campus, not the world.)
Depending on where your child is coming from, the ratio may be very important to them. I have friends whose daughter went to an all-girls school so is ready for a more balanced student body. I do think the fundamental shift is worrisome, though. Is it temporary? Will something like affirmative action for boys be necessary? |
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i have 3 boys. My 2nd is a (young, based on birthdate) HS Senior. And seems to be on the exact same path as his older brother who was also young for his class year. Poor grades, especially Freshman year, some recovery sophomore/junior year but still a frustrating lack of executive functioning (missing assignments, not being aware that assignments were missing, low motivation, etc.) Good to great standardized test scores way above what you'd expect based on GPA, and then have the best year by far, be his senior year of HS, which most colleges won't even see until they've already made their admissions decision (early days for the current HS senior, but he has all As right now). Which is good news for DS2 in the sense that this indicates he will do just fine in college, as my current college sophomore is doing, but bad news in that he has limited his opportunities for both where he can apply, and where he qualifies for merit aid (at schools where there is automatic merit based on a certain GPA). And it's mostly because, he, and his brother before him, just weren't mature enough earlier in high school, and now they are.
I'm not blaming the education system. This is not all new. 30 years ago the top ten in my high school class ranking was all girls. But, auto-merit based on GPA will favor girls. Test-optional will favor girls. We have local scholarships that are just for girls. There are no such scholarships just for boys. Which also means that girls are going to have to be OK with having fewer options, at many colleges, for dateable men. And they're going to have to be OK being in relationships with men who are not as educated as they are--as me and pretty much all my friends who met our spouses outside of school are. For my current kids' schools of interest, I've actually kept track of the male/female ratio, because even as a boy he does not want to go to a school that's too gender imbalanced. If you need a list, some of the schools include: Belmont University: 66% women Ohio University: 61% Duquesne: 63% San Diego State: 57% Elon: 59% American: 63% UVM: 63% NYU: 59% BU: 58% UCLA: 61% Butler: 60% New School: 77% UT Austin: 59% Pepperdine: 59% Florida St: 57% various SUNYs and SLACs all at ~60% I know College of Charleston and Tulane are also very lopsided. Alot of these don't surprise me (DS is going for music so some of the artier schools make sense, as do the SLACs or a school like Duquesne that has a large nursing program) but UCLA? Texas? Florida State? These are huge state universities. |
There are plenty of great men to look up to... Pete Buttigieg is an exemplary man. He is honest, smart and successful. Yes there are fewer men in power who are good role models. But that is because they are greedy, show no empathy and are liars. They did it to themselves, they chose to not have honor and integrity. perhaps boy need to look at some women for great role models...Dolly Parton and Mackenzie Scott |
Exactly. Take it to Politics. The discussion is off-topic to thread title. |
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As a South Asian origin cis-gender American citizen, my DD and my DS are finding plenty of spouse material dates in college.
Karens and Chads are not finding each other in college? Go to a Greek heavy college then. |
+1, plenty of men everywhere. People are acting like we have a woman president or something. Men still occupy a majority of the positions of power. |
| I think the problem isn’t that there are not enough high stat boys compared to girls but that the boys are all concentrating into engineering, CS, economics, polisci, and business. In these fields girls get a good boost because they are so under represented but the boys , especially white boys, don’t really get a boost for going into humanities, art, languages, area studies etc. Why would you give a boost to a kid who already has white male privilege? |
Let’s be clear boomer and older GenX men hold all the power and behave horribly. GenZ is being punished for the bad behavior of their fathers and grandfathers. |
You can’t come up with one straight man for a boy to look up too? You don’t think this might be a problem? |
There’s more to Pete Buttigieg than him being gay. Concerning that that’s your first “concern” |
No one is punishing anyone. Men are still the dominant property and capital owners. |
It could also be that the arts and liberal arts are dominated by viewpoints that young men are less likely to agree with. Young men are more likely to be conservative, and conservative professors are rare in the humanities these days. |
I have a great deal of affection for gay men, but my daughter doesn’t want to marry one. |
I will consider the job done when one's highest aspiration for one's daughter isn't that she get married. Not married to a successful man, not married AT ALL. Nice if it happens, of course. But not a life goal. |