Gender Ratios are so lop-sided? What is going on?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure I’ll get slammed for this, but as a society we’ve abandoned our boys. They don’t have role models to look up to. We disparage men in general and white men in particular. We cater to those who claim victimhood.

Maybe give some thought to the qualities that your culture lauds as being exemplary, or successful. I’m thinking people like Elon Musk, Charlie Kirk, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos, DOGE. How many of these wealthy, influential white men finished college? How many of them proudly discuss their college experiences as being foundational in their success? So, I wouldn’t slam you for your viewpoint, although I do encourage you to take a deeper look at who you are openly valuing as role models. What many of you actually value is DOGE: Very young white men — with limited education, lots of power, and extravagantly generous paychecks.

Lol: You do get that you’re claiming “ victimhood” for “white men in particular “ — right? Tell the truth, do you REALLY wish that your “boys” had the opportunities that get offered to people who are not white males? You wish that your kid was a target for ICE?

The only person on that list that I might even consider a worthy role model for a young man would have been Charlie Kirk, primarily for his way of speaking with people who disagreed with him. Do you consider the rest of them people our boys should admire or emulate? That to me is a sign of a sick culture.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I noticed that most public flagships have a more even split. Gender imbalance also varies by major. I've read that girls mature earlier and just 'do school' better at this age. But I have a daughter and 2 older boys from a previous marriage. I notice a big difference today in terms of program opportunities for girls vs boys. Across the board from leadership to stem. So many free things for my daughter to join and enhance her skills and resume...and not much for boys. Just my observation.

This isn't actually true. You must mean the top ranked/selective flagships.

If you look at flagships with 70%+ acceptance rates...LSU, Ole Miss, Indiana...they are all now like 60%+ female.

Selective flagships predominantly female (more than selective privates). UVA is 57% women.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure I’ll get slammed for this, but as a society we’ve abandoned our boys. They don’t have role models to look up to. We disparage men in general and white men in particular. We cater to those who claim victimhood.

I tend to agree. I actually have one of the highly mature one, even more than most girls, but even he has felt like in college admissions and the like that you almost have apologize for not having any suffering and being male. He’s never said it, but I see it, and can tell in subtle ways. I’m a democrat, I don’t need to be hated on, but many do feel like they have been pushed aside in some regards. Others have mentioned the issues with schooling and boys on the less mature side and agree with that too. Video games and now p*rn are just terrible for these kids.

I have two sons attending top 20 colleges..and neither felt they had to apologize for anything in college admissions.

I literally have no clue what aspect of the admissions process would cause your kid to feel this way, other than every now and then an essay question asking you about a time you had to overcome adversity. However, you realize AO's don't expect every kid to have to write about coming from abject poverty and a broken home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m sure I’ll get slammed for this, but as a society we’ve abandoned our boys. They don’t have role models to look up to. We disparage men in general and white men in particular. We cater to those who claim victimhood.

I tend to agree. I actually have one of the highly mature one, even more than most girls, but even he has felt like in college admissions and the like that you almost have apologize for not having any suffering and being male. He’s never said it, but I see it, and can tell in subtle ways. I’m a democrat, I don’t need to be hated on, but many do feel like they have been pushed aside in some regards. Others have mentioned the issues with schooling and boys on the less mature side and agree with that too. Video games and now p*rn are just terrible for these kids.

Is he in college now or applying now? I don’t really understand this, to be honest. If anything, I’d think he’d have an easier time getting in just because he’s a boy. My sense is that the imbalance is not so much that the boys can’t get in, but that they don’t want to go to college at all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DD has gone on several tours where the gender ratio is almost 2/3 female to male (BU was a recent one that our tour guide said was close to that). What is going on? [/b]Why aren't colleges at least trying to balance things a bit? [b]My daughter feels like it will be a weird atmosphere for her when it's so female-heavy. She doesn't just want to go to school with guys who got in through recruited sports. She wants to go to college with smart, goal-oriented men.

You want DEI for boys?

our NYC private HS balances gender for incoming class. no one has a problem with it. our kids want even amounts of girls to boys. it makes for a more healthy school environment IMO rather than having too much of any one gender dominating the class.

But this is higher ed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:1. I’m sure I’ll get slammed for this, but as a society we’ve abandoned our boys.
2. They don’t have role models to look up to.
3. We disparage men in general and white men in particular.
4. We cater to those who claim victimhood.

1. Totally agree. We need to be discussing this more.
2. Disagree, it's just that social media noise obscures the role models.
3. This is such a broad statement that it's meaningless.
4. Disagree, because those who claim victimhood aren't getting what they need, either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I noticed that most public flagships have a more even split. Gender imbalance also varies by major. I've read that girls mature earlier and just 'do school' better at this age. But I have a daughter and 2 older boys from a previous marriage. I notice a big difference today in terms of program opportunities for girls vs boys. Across the board from leadership to stem. So many free things for my daughter to join and enhance her skills and resume...and not much for boys. Just my observation.

This isn't actually true. You must mean the top ranked/selective flagships.

If you look at flagships with 70%+ acceptance rates...LSU, Ole Miss, Indiana...they are all now like 60%+ female.

Selective flagships predominantly female (more than selective privates). UVA is 57% women.

UGA is majority female.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m sure I’ll get slammed for this, but as a society we’ve abandoned our boys. They don’t have role models to look up to. We disparage men in general and white men in particular. We cater to those who claim victimhood.

Agree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I noticed that most public flagships have a more even split. Gender imbalance also varies by major. I've read that girls mature earlier and just 'do school' better at this age. But I have a daughter and 2 older boys from a previous marriage. I notice a big difference today in terms of program opportunities for girls vs boys. Across the board from leadership to stem. So many free things for my daughter to join and enhance her skills and resume...and not much for boys. Just my observation.

This isn't actually true. You must mean the top ranked/selective flagships.

If you look at flagships with 70%+ acceptance rates...LSU, Ole Miss, Indiana...they are all now like 60%+ female.

Selective flagships predominantly female (more than selective privates). UVA is 57% women.

So is Michigan these days too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m sure I’ll get slammed for this, but as a society we’ve abandoned our boys. They don’t have role models to look up to. We disparage men in general and white men in particular. We cater to those who claim victimhood.

I tend to agree. I actually have one of the highly mature one, even more than most girls, but even he has felt like in college admissions and the like that you almost have apologize for not having any suffering and being male. He’s never said it, but I see it, and can tell in subtle ways. I’m a democrat, I don’t need to be hated on, but many do feel like they have been pushed aside in some regards. Others have mentioned the issues with schooling and boys on the less mature side and agree with that too. Video games and now p*rn are just terrible for these kids.

I have two sons attending top 20 colleges..and neither felt they had to apologize for anything in college admissions.

I literally have no clue what aspect of the admissions process would cause your kid to feel this way, other than every now and then an essay question asking you about a time you had to overcome adversity. However, you realize AO's don't expect every kid to have to write about coming from abject poverty and a broken home.

DP. Mine were just themselves. They are kind, smart, funny. They didn’t have any trauma to speak to and it was fine. They did well in admissions

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m sure I’ll get slammed for this, but as a society we’ve abandoned our boys. They don’t have role models to look up to. We disparage men in general and white men in particular. We cater to those who claim victimhood.

Maybe give some thought to the qualities that your culture lauds as being exemplary, or successful. I’m thinking people like Elon Musk, Charlie Kirk, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos, DOGE. How many of these wealthy, influential white men finished college? How many of them proudly discuss their college experiences as being foundational in their success? So, I wouldn’t slam you for your viewpoint, although I do encourage you to take a deeper look at who you are openly valuing as role models. What many of you actually value is DOGE: Very young white men — with limited education, lots of power, and extravagantly generous paychecks.

Lol: You do get that you’re claiming “ victimhood” for “white men in particular “ — right? Tell the truth, do you REALLY wish that your “boys” had the opportunities that get offered to people who are not white males? You wish that your kid was a target for ICE?

The only person on that list that I might even consider a worthy role model for a young man would have been Charlie Kirk, primarily for his way of speaking with people who disagreed with him. Do you consider the rest of them people our boys should admire or emulate? That to me is a sign of a sick culture.

Can you provide some examples of this? I have never seen him speak with those who disagreed with him in any way that I would find admirable.

[Anonymous]

UNC is almost 70% female and UCLA is 65% female.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m sure I’ll get slammed for this, but as a society we’ve abandoned our boys. They don’t have role models to look up to. We disparage men in general and white men in particular. We cater to those who claim victimhood.

I really don’t get it. American society is still very much ruled by men. From top government leadership, to Congress, to the vast majority of boardrooms. Educational leadership, be it K-12 or higher ed, tends to be split about 50/50. So who exactly is abandoning the boys?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. I’m sure I’ll get slammed for this, but as a society we’ve abandoned our boys.
2. They don’t have role models to look up to.
3. We disparage men in general and white men in particular.
4. We cater to those who claim victimhood.

1. Totally agree. We need to be discussing this more.
2. Disagree, it's just that social media noise obscures the role models.
3. This is such a broad statement that it's meaningless.
4. Disagree, because those who claim victimhood aren't getting what they need, either.

Historically, white males have been able to succeed by virtue of their status as white males. This is no longer true and men are having trouble adjusting to the reality then they must work hard to compete against other qualified people.

~Mom to two white men

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m sure I’ll get slammed for this, but as a society we’ve abandoned our boys. They don’t have role models to look up to. We disparage men in general and white men in particular. We cater to those who claim victimhood.

I tend to agree. I actually have one of the highly mature one, even more than most girls, but even he has felt like in college admissions and the like that you almost have apologize for not having any suffering and being male. He’s never said it, but I see it, and can tell in subtle ways. I’m a democrat, I don’t need to be hated on, but many do feel like they have been pushed aside in some regards. Others have mentioned the issues with schooling and boys on the less mature side and agree with that too. Video games and now p*rn are just terrible for these kids.

I have two sons attending top 20 colleges..and neither felt they had to apologize for anything in college admissions.

I literally have no clue what aspect of the admissions process would cause your kid to feel this way, other than every now and then an essay question asking you about a time you had to overcome adversity. However, you realize AO's don't expect every kid to have to write about coming from abject poverty and a broken home.

At an Ivy, applied a couple years ago. That supplement and some others, a bit harder to answer. I do understand that AO’s don’t expect that, but it still felt awkward at times for lack of better words.