Fatal Stabbing in Charlotte on a train. Iryna Zarutska

[Anonymous]

Arrested 14 times on cashless bail since January? Why even bother? No wonder cops give up. Why would judges continually release him after six or seven times??? He obviously felt no consequences could affect him.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, not buying it. There were several big men on that train. They could have jumped him so others could have helped her. He didn’t have a gun.

This reminded me of the killing on the red line a few years ago, midday, 4th of July. That killer was even smaller, yet none of the large men present acted. Someone died then, too.

Exactly. Is this is how we’re going to react now as a society we are truly lost.

The bystander effect is real.

And considering how someone defending another subway victim in NY was prosecuted for his actions , I would be hesitant to jump in also.

[Anonymous]

I disagree with most of what I'm seeing on social media and here.

1) you can't actually tell what happened.

2) Everyone was aware he was dangerous or acting strange.

3) Based on the blood it wasn't clear whether he or she was injured

4) everyone there was in danger and needed to GTFO

Lessons: if you are injured make it clear to others that you need assistance/ help

Rip your clothing off if needed so people can stop the bleeding

I've BTDT on a train with a guy with a knife and people acted really stupid. Also there is no way for any of us to stop him even if it's a group. No one else was armed and if that guy is on PCPs he's stronger than all of us combined.

[Anonymous]

Incidents. like this one is why Trump won.

Thanks, Progressives.

A beautiful young girl who fled war in her country is viciously attacked and murdered in the country where she sought refuge.

And y'all are concerned about the occupy D.C. thing? I guess you'd rather have feral kids or lunatics roaming looking for victims.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:One thing I don’t understand from watching the video is how calm everybody else was. They have zero reactions. Did they not realize what happened?

one guy reacted (by making a video of her bleeding to death, so he could later post it to TikTok)

I want to qualify my original question because there is one man in a green shirt who went to help her. Everybody else stood around like nothing had happened, and the ones right next to her just picked up and ignored her. Didn’t even look back at her. It’s just so chilling.

[Anonymous]

I was on the metro once, blue line, when some kids started fighting and pushing and an elderly lady tried to move and fell, splitting her shin wide open and blood just everywhere. People reacted immediately and someone pushed the button in the back to call the driver and by the time we arrived at the next station there were cops waiting on the platform and the EMT soon arrived. I will never forget it, was about 10 years ago.

People helped the woman, someone got extra clothes out of a bag and applied pressure to her leg, people moved so she could sit down and hold her leg up and some other people corralled the kids to the back and got them to sit down. It was an accident, although they shouldn't have been pushing and fighting. Thinking back they could have had a weapon but it all happened so fast people just reacted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Arrested 14 times on cashless bail since January? Why even bother? No wonder cops give up. Why would judges continually release him after six or seven times??? He obviously felt no consequences could affect him.

Commonwealth’s attorney Steve Descano (D), in FFX county instituted “cashless bail.”

The DC City Council instituted “cashless bail.”

Montgomery County pushed through cashless bail.

Cashless bail is a major way in which democrats are making our communities LESS SAFE for your children and for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I disagree with most of what I'm seeing on social media and here.

1) you can't actually tell what happened.

2) Everyone was aware he was dangerous or acting strange.

3) Based on the blood it wasn't clear whether he or she was injured

4) everyone there was in danger and needed to GTFO

Lessons: if you are injured make it clear to others that you need assistance/ help

Rip your clothing off if needed so people can stop the bleeding

I've BTDT on a train with a guy with a knife and people acted really stupid. Also there is no way for any of us to stop him even if it's a group. No one else was armed and if that guy is on PCPs he's stronger than all of us combined.

Did anyone even die? I need to see the death certificate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, not buying it. There were several big men on that train. They could have jumped him so others could have helped her. He didn’t have a gun.

This reminded me of the killing on the red line a few years ago, midday, 4th of July. That killer was even smaller, yet none of the large men present acted. Someone died then, too.

Exactly. Is this is how we’re going to react now as a society we are truly lost.

The bystander effect is real.

And considering how someone defending another subway victim in NY was prosecuted for his actions , I would be hesitant to jump in also.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t blame the others on the train - I’d be sacred out of my mind in this situation.

The more important question is why was this career criminal allowed to walk the streets?

And did he pay for the ride? This may sound silly in context but many cities in the world have systems that make fare jumping impossible, and it keeps people off the trains and platforms who only cause trouble.


To the second note: I would like to know what happened next! They must have called help, because the killer was arrested very quickly? How do we know that nobody came to her aid at all? When he left that's when things needed to happen quickly; pull emergency brake in train, help try stop the bleeding, call police and EMS etc.

He did not pay for the ride, and Charlotte doesn't have enough employees working to check riders or protect them.

So then install fare gates that cannot be jumped, like in other (non-US) cities.

PP here. I agree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t blame the others on the train - I’d be sacred out of my mind in this situation.

The more important question is why was this career criminal allowed to walk the streets?

He’s homeless and like many homeless people, likely has serious mental illness.

Rs love to say we need better mental health access in this country after mass shootings by white men. Well, the same applies here.

Republicans say it for all of the mentally ill, too. They also say, with good reason, that we need to bring back longterm institutional care for the severely mentally ill.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t blame the others on the train - I’d be sacred out of my mind in this situation.

The more important question is why was this career criminal allowed to walk the streets?

And did he pay for the ride? This may sound silly in context but many cities in the world have systems that make fare jumping impossible, and it keeps people off the trains and platforms who only cause trouble.


To the second note: I would like to know what happened next! They must have called help, because the killer was arrested very quickly? How do we know that nobody came to her aid at all? When he left that's when things needed to happen quickly; pull emergency brake in train, help try stop the bleeding, call police and EMS etc.

He did not pay for the ride, and Charlotte doesn't have enough employees working to check riders or protect them.

So then install fare gates that cannot be jumped, like in other (non-US) cities.

PP here. I agree.

NG could help ensure the non payers stayed out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yep

Oh this picture is absolutely heartbreaking.

Yes. Just imagine if she were your daughter, granddaughter, or wife dying from a brutal throat stabbing in fear and pain all alone. Tragic. Horrific.

[Anonymous]

The man in the tan shirt who is sitting directly behind the attacker never leaves the scene. He watched the guy stab the woman and walk away. Then one by one the other people around walk away (in the direction of the attacker, if he is so dangerous why are they walking towards in the same direction) except for that one guy.

I have read he eventually stands up and over the victim in the aisle. At this point the victim has fallen to the floor. He says nothing, he does nothing, he doesn’t call out to anyone, he doesn’t say anything to her, he doesn’t call 912. He just looks at her. It takes another minute for another person (the man who eventually takes off his shirt to help) to come over.

This guy watched it all go down and just watched this woman bleed out. Did nothing, absolutely nothing. He saw it. He was right there the entire time. Plenty of footage to prove it. I am stunned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Incidents. like this one is why Trump won.

Thanks, Progressives.

A beautiful young girl who fled war in her country is viciously attacked and murdered in the country where she sought refuge.

And y'all are concerned about the occupy D.C. thing? I guess you'd rather have feral kids or lunatics roaming looking for victims.

Really? The guy is a paranoid schizophrenic. The ENTIRE system failed.