article in The Atlantic about tracking your kids

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:My kids, husband, and I have location sharing enabled amongst the four of us on Google Maps.

We don't check each other's location very often time, but it's been nice to see where someone is without texting them.

The kids are teenagers now, but before they had cell phones, they would be a local park, on their bikes, or at a friend's place for hours at a time. Oddly, I know more about there whereabouts now than I did before they got cell phones!

I can also see my elderly parent's location. It's been helpful in various scenarios.


This is a problem, I think. Tracking gives a false sense of confidence. My vote is less tracking, more talking.


I know where my child is with a great deal of confidence, which is the entire point.


I guess depending on the age of the kid (14yo is different than hs senior) I would ask why you need to know 24/7.


And I would ask you to mind your own business and worry about raising your own kids. It's not that difficult.
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Anonymous wrote:For those of you who say it’s just for convenience or your kids don’t mind or whatever - what if your kids asked to not be tracked anymore? What would your response be?


Maybe try reading the responses to this same question instead of asking it over and over again.

They can choose not to be tracked when they are adults living on their own. Until then, it's not different than any other rule I choose to have in my house.


It’s a little different, but ok.

Some people are acting like it is no big deal and just for convenience or whatever. My guess is that is not exactly accurate for some of those parents. And they are saying it is not a big deal but it probably would be if the kids asked to not be tracked anymore.


Teens have all kinds of rules they don't like or agree with. If I based every decision on how my kids feels about it, I'd be in a world of pain.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kids, husband, and I have location sharing enabled amongst the four of us on Google Maps.

We don't check each other's location very often time, but it's been nice to see where someone is without texting them.

The kids are teenagers now, but before they had cell phones, they would be a local park, on their bikes, or at a friend's place for hours at a time. Oddly, I know more about there whereabouts now than I did before they got cell phones!

I can also see my elderly parent's location. It's been helpful in various scenarios.


This is a problem, I think. Tracking gives a false sense of confidence. My vote is less tracking, more talking.


I know where my child is with a great deal of confidence, which is the entire point.


I guess depending on the age of the kid (14yo is different than hs senior) I would ask why you need to know 24/7.


You don’t but there is not option for certain hours so it either on or off.

I’m sure your in the same camp where your spouse can look at your phone.
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Anonymous wrote:I have a 15 yo daughter. No tracking at all. Never been a problem


She doesn’t even drive yet. She’s literally wherever you took her.


She has friends that drive. I don’t plan on tracking- without a very compelling reason, as in curfew is 11pm and it’s 1am and she’s not home
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have a 15 yo daughter. No tracking at all. Never been a problem


She doesn’t even drive yet. She’s literally wherever you took her.


She has friends that drive. I don’t plan on tracking- without a very compelling reason, as in curfew is 11pm and it’s 1am and she’s not home


What do you think the rest of us are going? Staring at our phones 24/7, looking at our kids' location? What you described is how the majority of the people "track" their kids.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have a 15 yo daughter. No tracking at all. Never been a problem


She doesn’t even drive yet. She’s literally wherever you took her.


She has friends that drive. I don’t plan on tracking- without a very compelling reason, as in curfew is 11pm and it’s 1am and she’s not home


What do you think the rest of us are going? Staring at our phones 24/7, looking at our kids' location? What you described is how the majority of the people "track" their kids.


No, lots of parents track their kid every time they leave the house
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have a 15 yo daughter. No tracking at all. Never been a problem


She doesn’t even drive yet. She’s literally wherever you took her.


She has friends that drive. I don’t plan on tracking- without a very compelling reason, as in curfew is 11pm and it’s 1am and she’s not home


What do you think the rest of us are going? Staring at our phones 24/7, looking at our kids' location? What you described is how the majority of the people "track" their kids.


No, lots of parents track their kid every time they leave the house


And???? You can choose to track yours or not. Stop worrying about how other parents are choosing to parent.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Given the Trump administration is about to track women

Red states are already trying legit do this why not track your teens maga


There is also a t-rump plan to cancel the credit card of every woman in America. It’s written right in his plan 2025.


It is so Handmaid’s Tale…
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have a 15 yo daughter. No tracking at all. Never been a problem


She doesn’t even drive yet. She’s literally wherever you took her.


She has friends that drive. I don’t plan on tracking- without a very compelling reason, as in curfew is 11pm and it’s 1am and she’s not home


What do you think the rest of us are going? Staring at our phones 24/7, looking at our kids' location? What you described is how the majority of the people "track" their kids.


No, lots of parents track their kid every time they leave the house


No, they don’t.
Anonymous
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If they have nothing to hide they have nothing to worry about.



“Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say.”

― Edward Snowden

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_to_hide_argument

Electronically tracking your kids sets a bad precedent for society, and, even if you and your kids genuinely don't find this creepy, you and/or they might prefer that their tracking data not be sold and/or used for targeted advertsing.

Also, tracking your kids means tracking their friends and associates, none of whom have likely agreed to be tracked. It's an invasion of their privacy, too.


This thread keeps getting dumber. My kids are fully aware that they do not have absolute privacy. No kid should have that. They are still learning, developing, making mistakes. We are responsible for their health, safety and well being. So until they are mature enough to be completely on their own, I will use the technology available to me to make that a success.

So, unless you have something better than "technology BAD" as your argument, I'll do what I deem necessary to keep my kids safe.

I don't even know how to respond do the insane "their friends didn't consent to being tracked." I guess I'd need to obtain their permission to know that they are with my child, even if I didn't track their phone. Do you see how ridiculous that sounds?



DP

Reread what you wrote. Actually, you sound ridiculous.

And the ability to track people via app which can be hacked makes them unsafe. Imagine your kid on a hike with their friends out of state. A hacker calls you with a zip code from that area telling you that Larlo has been in an accident and you need to wire money to the hospital. Larlo is hiking and doesn't have mobile service, but you see he's in the same area. Your hacker has his insurance, location details, friends, photographs, etc. Does this make you feel safer about your child? This is just one of billions of scenarios. If your kid has videos online they can deep fake photos of the accident with his voice asking for money.

I work in ai and there is not a chance on Earth I'm making it easy for these people. But hey, you do you. Ignorance is bliss. Actually if you make it easy for them to hack you all, then they won't go for the difficult targets, so yeah, for you, it's a great idea.


What hospital needs money by wire transfer mid-treatment?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kids, husband, and I have location sharing enabled amongst the four of us on Google Maps.

We don't check each other's location very often time, but it's been nice to see where someone is without texting them.

The kids are teenagers now, but before they had cell phones, they would be a local park, on their bikes, or at a friend's place for hours at a time. Oddly, I know more about there whereabouts now than I did before they got cell phones!

I can also see my elderly parent's location. It's been helpful in various scenarios.


This is a problem, I think. Tracking gives a false sense of confidence. My vote is less tracking, more talking.


I know where my child is with a great deal of confidence, which is the entire point.


I guess depending on the age of the kid (14yo is different than hs senior) I would ask why you need to know 24/7.


And I would ask you to mind your own business and worry about raising your own kids. It's not that difficult.



You don’t have to answer, but maybe somebody else would.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For those of you who say it’s just for convenience or your kids don’t mind or whatever - what if your kids asked to not be tracked anymore? What would your response be?


Maybe try reading the responses to this same question instead of asking it over and over again.

They can choose not to be tracked when they are adults living on their own. Until then, it's not different than any other rule I choose to have in my house.


It’s a little different, but ok.

Some people are acting like it is no big deal and just for convenience or whatever. My guess is that is not exactly accurate for some of those parents. And they are saying it is not a big deal but it probably would be if the kids asked to not be tracked anymore.


Teens have all kinds of rules they don't like or agree with. If I based every decision on how my kids feels about it, I'd be in a world of pain.



Right, but you’re missing my point. It’s likely a bigger deal to their kids than some parents here think it is and/or the tracking is not just for convenience.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For those of you who say it’s just for convenience or your kids don’t mind or whatever - what if your kids asked to not be tracked anymore? What would your response be?


Maybe try reading the responses to this same question instead of asking it over and over again.

They can choose not to be tracked when they are adults living on their own. Until then, it's not different than any other rule I choose to have in my house.


It’s a little different, but ok.

Some people are acting like it is no big deal and just for convenience or whatever. My guess is that is not exactly accurate for some of those parents. And they are saying it is not a big deal but it probably would be if the kids asked to not be tracked anymore.


Teens have all kinds of rules they don't like or agree with. If I based every decision on how my kids feels about it, I'd be in a world of pain.



Right, but you’re missing my point. It’s likely a bigger deal to their kids than some parents here think it is and/or the tracking is not just for convenience.


I disagree that it is a big deal to my kids. If it was, they'd ask me to stop. To the contrary, when they got to an age where I told them they were free to opt out, they didn't.

Digital natives are used to be tracked. Have you ever seen a Snapmap? They know where their friends are at all time and vice versa. This is just normal life to them.

If you're getting parenting advice from at Atlantic clickbait article, you're doing something very, very wrong.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kids, husband, and I have location sharing enabled amongst the four of us on Google Maps.

We don't check each other's location very often time, but it's been nice to see where someone is without texting them.

The kids are teenagers now, but before they had cell phones, they would be a local park, on their bikes, or at a friend's place for hours at a time. Oddly, I know more about there whereabouts now than I did before they got cell phones!

I can also see my elderly parent's location. It's been helpful in various scenarios.


This is a problem, I think. Tracking gives a false sense of confidence. My vote is less tracking, more talking.


I know where my child is with a great deal of confidence, which is the entire point.


I guess depending on the age of the kid (14yo is different than hs senior) I would ask why you need to know 24/7.


And I would ask you to mind your own business and worry about raising your own kids. It's not that difficult.



You don’t have to answer, but maybe somebody else would.


Sure, sort of like you don't need to ask questions that are none of your business.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For those of you who say it’s just for convenience or your kids don’t mind or whatever - what if your kids asked to not be tracked anymore? What would your response be?


Maybe try reading the responses to this same question instead of asking it over and over again.

They can choose not to be tracked when they are adults living on their own. Until then, it's not different than any other rule I choose to have in my house.


It’s a little different, but ok.

Some people are acting like it is no big deal and just for convenience or whatever. My guess is that is not exactly accurate for some of those parents. And they are saying it is not a big deal but it probably would be if the kids asked to not be tracked anymore.


Teens have all kinds of rules they don't like or agree with. If I based every decision on how my kids feels about it, I'd be in a world of pain.



Right, but you’re missing my point. It’s likely a bigger deal to their kids than some parents here think it is and/or the tracking is not just for convenience.


Parents who want to abuse and control their kids will do it without the help of any technology. It's not going to stop me from using it for my convenience.
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