APS School Board Race

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Anonymous wrote:Mary Kadera just endorsed June. That’s wild. I don’t think it will change much of anything since everyone else endorsed Moe, but for the first time, I have to question WTF Mary is thinking.

Anyone who has worked with June knows what a tremendous asset she would be in this role.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This letter links June directly with APE's board. It's not a large step to take to think that she'll be very friendly to them and their views as a SB member.

So agree with getting cell phones out of schools, which is what AEA was fighting for, but think of it as a negative for June because of who she as President of AEA had to work with? Ok, lol.

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Anonymous wrote:This letter links June directly with APE's board. It's not a large step to take to think that she'll be very friendly to them and their views as a SB member.

So she’s willing to work with different groups if the outcome is positive for APS? Sounds like a great candidate. I voted for her because I only vote for people who have worked in the schools.

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Anonymous wrote:This letter links June directly with APE's board. It's not a large step to take to think that she'll be very friendly to them and their views as a SB member.

So she’s willing to work with different groups if the outcome is positive for APS? Sounds like a great candidate. I voted for her because I only vote for people who have worked in the schools.

What other groups has she worked with, and has AEA signed joint advocacy letters with them?

I don’t trust APE, so I don’t trust June.

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Anonymous wrote:This letter links June directly with APE's board. It's not a large step to take to think that she'll be very friendly to them and their views as a SB member.

So she’s willing to work with different groups if the outcome is positive for APS? Sounds like a great candidate. I voted for her because I only vote for people who have worked in the schools.

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Teacher spouse and I voted Moe.

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Anonymous wrote:AEA and APS have both been circling the drain the last few years. Most teachers and staff that cared have jumped ship. June Prakash is a joke, I hope other candidates have more to offer or at least open to a better way forward.

I think I remember seeing some active teachers formed a rival group? Anyone know the story there? If June can't even bring the teachers together, that's not a good sign for leading APS.

IIRC, wasn't the leader of the "rival union" Paul Weiss? And even he had the decency to resign as an APS employee before running. Not sure as an independent if he asked for AEA's endorsement.

Also, I don't know how many teachers actually join AEA and pay dues, but my understanding is that it is a small percentage.

I think Paul started his campaign before he left APS? But yes, he did eventually resign. Does June plan to leave? When? It seems like a huge conflict to run while you're employed by APS. Wouldn't the parents of her students feel pressure to vote for her?

June isn’t currently working at an APS school—surprisingly, being AEA president is her full-time job. While in that role, she’s paid through union dues, not APS. APS “holds” her position, and I believe she still receives APS health insurance and retirement benefits.

I don’t think parents would have felt pressured to vote for her based on her role—she’s not a classroom teacher, she was an assistant. In fact, both the current AEA president and vice president are assistants, not certified teachers. That might help explain why AEA’s advocacy often doesn’t reflect what’s actually happening in classrooms.

Take kindergarten iPads, for example—AEA (and June specifically) wants them gone. Meanwhile, a group of Title I kindergarten teachers has been consistently advocating for a class set of 10 iPads to support Lexia interventions. But to know that, June would need to engage with teachers across APS—not just the small circle of AEA loyalists she spends her time with.

Aren't all students issued their own device? Why would kindergarten teachers need to advocate for class set? That doesn't make any sense at all.

https://www.apsva.us/digital-devices/

Maybe because a vocal parents lobbying group with privileged members wants to get rid of them?

Where are you getting information about Title I kindergarten teachers lobbying for a classroom set of iPads? They would have no reason to ask for 10 more iPads in the class if every kid is currently assigned an ipad. I question the validity of your info.

Oh, for heaven’s sakes. Kids currently have one-to-one devices. APS might get rid of them. Some kindergarten title one teachers are saying at least let us keep 10 per class.

So they’re saying they don’t need one-to-one? They only need a classroom set? That would be fewer iPads than we have currently. That’s not how this little anecdote was presented a few comments up.

In anon forums, things are going to be misinterpreted. So let’s clear things up.

1.) APE and AEA might collaborate sometimes (cellphone ban), but June is not endorsed by them.

2.) Some K teachers would like an iPad classroom set should 1:1 go away in that grade. Which is a reasonable request.

I'll pick the candidate who didn't team up with APE, thanks.

Which is that? And How did they "team up"?

AEA and APE so June who leads AEA

Are you suggesting that AEA should be partisan and not meet with all constituents, teachers, parents?

How is a LOBBYING GROUP a constituent of a teacher's union? How are parents the constituents of a TEACHER'S union?

Also, AEA didn't just meet with them; they teamed up and I think even wrote a joint position statement.

APE is really shady because it won't disclose it's funding. Because of that and because of its leadership's ties to right wing/conservative Republicans, this leads many to assume APE is funded by right wingers/MAGA. AEA should have stayed for away from APE if they didn't want to be partisan. I lost all respect for AEA when they teamed up with APE. Also its endorsements in the past haven't helped its cause either.

What was the joint statement about?

The letter to the Dr Duran and the Board advocating for a total cellphone ban across APS. I think it was posted to the old AEM if you'd like to fish for it.

AEA could have issued their own statement instead of collaborating with APE. Made me lose a lot of respect for them. APE is divisive.

Exactly. It was really weird for AEA to team up with APE, a lobbying group with right wing ties that won't disclose its funding. I can't support that. There is no reason AEA couldn't have issued a statement alone. The choice to team up with APE was not one I can overlook.

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Anonymous wrote:AEA and APS have both been circling the drain the last few years. Most teachers and staff that cared have jumped ship. June Prakash is a joke, I hope other candidates have more to offer or at least open to a better way forward.

I think I remember seeing some active teachers formed a rival group? Anyone know the story there? If June can't even bring the teachers together, that's not a good sign for leading APS.

IIRC, wasn't the leader of the "rival union" Paul Weiss? And even he had the decency to resign as an APS employee before running. Not sure as an independent if he asked for AEA's endorsement.

Also, I don't know how many teachers actually join AEA and pay dues, but my understanding is that it is a small percentage.

I think Paul started his campaign before he left APS? But yes, he did eventually resign. Does June plan to leave? When? It seems like a huge conflict to run while you're employed by APS. Wouldn't the parents of her students feel pressure to vote for her?

June isn’t currently working at an APS school—surprisingly, being AEA president is her full-time job. While in that role, she’s paid through union dues, not APS. APS “holds” her position, and I believe she still receives APS health insurance and retirement benefits.

I don’t think parents would have felt pressured to vote for her based on her role—she’s not a classroom teacher, she was an assistant. In fact, both the current AEA president and vice president are assistants, not certified teachers. That might help explain why AEA’s advocacy often doesn’t reflect what’s actually happening in classrooms.

Take kindergarten iPads, for example—AEA (and June specifically) wants them gone. Meanwhile, a group of Title I kindergarten teachers has been consistently advocating for a class set of 10 iPads to support Lexia interventions. But to know that, June would need to engage with teachers across APS—not just the small circle of AEA loyalists she spends her time with.

Aren't all students issued their own device? Why would kindergarten teachers need to advocate for class set? That doesn't make any sense at all.

https://www.apsva.us/digital-devices/

Maybe because a vocal parents lobbying group with privileged members wants to get rid of them?

Where are you getting information about Title I kindergarten teachers lobbying for a classroom set of iPads? They would have no reason to ask for 10 more iPads in the class if every kid is currently assigned an ipad. I question the validity of your info.

Oh, for heaven’s sakes. Kids currently have one-to-one devices. APS might get rid of them. Some kindergarten title one teachers are saying at least let us keep 10 per class.

So they’re saying they don’t need one-to-one? They only need a classroom set? That would be fewer iPads than we have currently. That’s not how this little anecdote was presented a few comments up.

In anon forums, things are going to be misinterpreted. So let’s clear things up.

1.) APE and AEA might collaborate sometimes (cellphone ban), but June is not endorsed by them.

2.) Some K teachers would like an iPad classroom set should 1:1 go away in that grade. Which is a reasonable request.

I'll pick the candidate who didn't team up with APE, thanks.

Which is that? And How did they "team up"?

AEA and APE so June who leads AEA

Are you suggesting that AEA should be partisan and not meet with all constituents, teachers, parents?

How is a LOBBYING GROUP a constituent of a teacher's union? How are parents the constituents of a TEACHER'S union?

Also, AEA didn't just meet with them; they teamed up and I think even wrote a joint position statement.

APE is really shady because it won't disclose it's funding. Because of that and because of its leadership's ties to right wing/conservative Republicans, this leads many to assume APE is funded by right wingers/MAGA. AEA should have stayed for away from APE if they didn't want to be partisan. I lost all respect for AEA when they teamed up with APE. Also its endorsements in the past haven't helped its cause either.

What was the joint statement about?

The letter to the Dr Duran and the Board advocating for a total cellphone ban across APS. I think it was posted to the old AEM if you'd like to fish for it.

AEA could have issued their own statement instead of collaborating with APE. Made me lose a lot of respect for them. APE is divisive.

Exactly. It was really weird for AEA to team up with APE, a lobbying group with right wing ties that won't disclose its funding. I can't support that. There is no reason AEA couldn't have issued a statement alone. The choice to team up with APE was not one I can overlook.

+1

At a minimum, it shows poor judgment.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This letter links June directly with APE's board. It's not a large step to take to think that she'll be very friendly to them and their views as a SB member.

So agree with getting cell phones out of schools, which is what AEA was fighting for, but think of it as a negative for June because of who she as President of AEA had to work with? Ok, lol.

HAD to work with, lol? How exactly was June forced to work with APE? Please explain.

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Anonymous wrote:AEA and APS have both been circling the drain the last few years. Most teachers and staff that cared have jumped ship. June Prakash is a joke, I hope other candidates have more to offer or at least open to a better way forward.

I think I remember seeing some active teachers formed a rival group? Anyone know the story there? If June can't even bring the teachers together, that's not a good sign for leading APS.

IIRC, wasn't the leader of the "rival union" Paul Weiss? And even he had the decency to resign as an APS employee before running. Not sure as an independent if he asked for AEA's endorsement.

Also, I don't know how many teachers actually join AEA and pay dues, but my understanding is that it is a small percentage.

I think Paul started his campaign before he left APS? But yes, he did eventually resign. Does June plan to leave? When? It seems like a huge conflict to run while you're employed by APS. Wouldn't the parents of her students feel pressure to vote for her?

June isn’t currently working at an APS school—surprisingly, being AEA president is her full-time job. While in that role, she’s paid through union dues, not APS. APS “holds” her position, and I believe she still receives APS health insurance and retirement benefits.

I don’t think parents would have felt pressured to vote for her based on her role—she’s not a classroom teacher, she was an assistant. In fact, both the current AEA president and vice president are assistants, not certified teachers. That might help explain why AEA’s advocacy often doesn’t reflect what’s actually happening in classrooms.

Take kindergarten iPads, for example—AEA (and June specifically) wants them gone. Meanwhile, a group of Title I kindergarten teachers has been consistently advocating for a class set of 10 iPads to support Lexia interventions. But to know that, June would need to engage with teachers across APS—not just the small circle of AEA loyalists she spends her time with.

Aren't all students issued their own device? Why would kindergarten teachers need to advocate for class set? That doesn't make any sense at all.

https://www.apsva.us/digital-devices/

Maybe because a vocal parents lobbying group with privileged members wants to get rid of them?

Where are you getting information about Title I kindergarten teachers lobbying for a classroom set of iPads? They would have no reason to ask for 10 more iPads in the class if every kid is currently assigned an ipad. I question the validity of your info.

Oh, for heaven’s sakes. Kids currently have one-to-one devices. APS might get rid of them. Some kindergarten title one teachers are saying at least let us keep 10 per class.

So they’re saying they don’t need one-to-one? They only need a classroom set? That would be fewer iPads than we have currently. That’s not how this little anecdote was presented a few comments up.

In anon forums, things are going to be misinterpreted. So let’s clear things up.

1.) APE and AEA might collaborate sometimes (cellphone ban), but June is not endorsed by them.

2.) Some K teachers would like an iPad classroom set should 1:1 go away in that grade. Which is a reasonable request.

I'll pick the candidate who didn't team up with APE, thanks.

Which is that? And How did they "team up"?

AEA and APE so June who leads AEA

Are you suggesting that AEA should be partisan and not meet with all constituents, teachers, parents?

How is a LOBBYING GROUP a constituent of a teacher's union? How are parents the constituents of a TEACHER'S union?

Also, AEA didn't just meet with them; they teamed up and I think even wrote a joint position statement.

APE is really shady because it won't disclose it's funding. Because of that and because of its leadership's ties to right wing/conservative Republicans, this leads many to assume APE is funded by right wingers/MAGA. AEA should have stayed for away from APE if they didn't want to be partisan. I lost all respect for AEA when they teamed up with APE. Also its endorsements in the past haven't helped its cause either.

What was the joint statement about?

The letter to the Dr Duran and the Board advocating for a total cellphone ban across APS. I think it was posted to the old AEM if you'd like to fish for it.

AEA could have issued their own statement instead of collaborating with APE. Made me lose a lot of respect for them. APE is divisive.

Exactly. It was really weird for AEA to team up with APE, a lobbying group with right wing ties that won't disclose its funding. I can't support that. There is no reason AEA couldn't have issued a statement alone. The choice to team up with APE was not one I can overlook.

+1

At a minimum, it shows poor judgment.

Way too cozy with APE

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This letter links June directly with APE's board. It's not a large step to take to think that she'll be very friendly to them and their views as a SB member.

So agree with getting cell phones out of schools, which is what AEA was fighting for, but think of it as a negative for June because of who she as President of AEA had to work with? Ok, lol.

HAD to work with, lol? How exactly was June forced to work with APE? Please explain.

Are you going to keep responding over and over? We get it- you're cool with who's who instead of what's what.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This letter links June directly with APE's board. It's not a large step to take to think that she'll be very friendly to them and their views as a SB member.

So agree with getting cell phones out of schools, which is what AEA was fighting for, but think of it as a negative for June because of who she as President of AEA had to work with? Ok, lol.

HAD to work with, lol? How exactly was June forced to work with APE? Please explain.

Are you going to keep responding over and over? We get it- you're cool with who's who instead of what's what.

DP. APE trashed our community and fellates Youngkin on the regular.

It's not like we are going to forget their actions or allegiances.

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Anonymous wrote:This letter links June directly with APE's board. It's not a large step to take to think that she'll be very friendly to them and their views as a SB member.

So agree with getting cell phones out of schools, which is what AEA was fighting for, but think of it as a negative for June because of who she as President of AEA had to work with? Ok, lol.

HAD to work with, lol? How exactly was June forced to work with APE? Please explain.

Are you going to keep responding over and over? We get it- you're cool with who's who instead of what's what.

DP. APE trashed our community and fellates Youngkin on the regular.

It's not like we are going to forget their actions or allegiances.

^and I am definitely not voting for any candidate who partners with them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This letter links June directly with APE's board. It's not a large step to take to think that she'll be very friendly to them and their views as a SB member.

So agree with getting cell phones out of schools, which is what AEA was fighting for, but think of it as a negative for June because of who she as President of AEA had to work with? Ok, lol.

HAD to work with, lol? How exactly was June forced to work with APE? Please explain.

Are you going to keep responding over and over? We get it- you're cool with who's who instead of what's what.

Actually, no, lol. There are multiple people responding.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This letter links June directly with APE's board. It's not a large step to take to think that she'll be very friendly to them and their views as a SB member.

So agree with getting cell phones out of schools, which is what AEA was fighting for, but think of it as a negative for June because of who she as President of AEA had to work with? Ok, lol.

HAD to work with, lol? How exactly was June forced to work with APE? Please explain.

still waaaaitting for an answer here, not a deflection.