Sobriety trend gaining steam? Noticed all last week…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Middle aged 40+ and older affluent men within earshot were asking about 0% beers. These are the type of men who’d be drinking either wine their wife at dinner or a draft IPA, bourbon or scotch.

April is long past dry January.

My DH switched to zero alcohol beers a few years ago and feel better for it. He used to prefer whiskey and IPA.

I think it is just about want to feel as well as possible but also relax somewhat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Now that we know what we know about alcohol and cancer, why is anyone still drinking?

I like the taste and I enjoy a vs little relaxing ritual while making dinner. I’m sure I come in contact with lots of other things that might cause cancer given the right circumstances. Something will get me eventually.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Went to a restaurant last night with 10 people and less than half ordered cocktails and alcohol. But the ones that did definitely made up for the rest of us sober people!

Maybe the drunks missed the recent revelations that there is:

NO safe amount of ALCOHOL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Now that we know what we know about alcohol and cancer, why is anyone still drinking?

I didn't see this so thanks for posting.

We've really minimized drinking alcohol anyhow, it just doesn't feel good at age 40+.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Now that we know what we know about alcohol and cancer, why is anyone still drinking?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now that we know what we know about alcohol and cancer, why is anyone still drinking?

Good question. Im glad i never started.

[Anonymous]

Alcohol has always been subversive. Do people know what triggered the Irish potato famine? The rich land owners were using the potato crop to make booze.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't even plan to give it up completely but once you're sober you realize how cringe drinking is and how the masses are under a spell. I don't even want to be associated with alcohol anymore.

Why do you reflexively need a glass of wine or cocktail right when you sit down at a restaurant? Why do you reflexively need beers at an MLB baseball game? Why do middle aged parents at a travel sports tournament or work conference reflexively need to act like unreformed frat boys and sorority girls?

A hundred million Americans trained to act like Pavlov's dogs. I'm now convinced entire industry is a predatory psyop to ruin lives and dumb the masses down.

Oh you have a lot in store for you when you wake up to Pavlovian training PSYOPs. It's not just the liquor industry, it is everything. Everything.

Turn on, Tune In, Drop Out. <-- General philosophy to break away from the Matrix, not to go wild with acid.

This is such an interesting convo to me! Can you/others recommend some other things to dig into? I definitely am feeling this way about alcohol.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn't even plan to give it up completely but once you're sober you realize how cringe drinking is and how the masses are under a spell. I don't even want to be associated with alcohol anymore.

Why do you reflexively need a glass of wine or cocktail right when you sit down at a restaurant? Why do you reflexively need beers at an MLB baseball game? Why do middle aged parents at a travel sports tournament or work conference reflexively need to act like unreformed frat boys and sorority girls?

A hundred million Americans trained to act like Pavlov's dogs. I'm now convinced entire industry is a predatory psyop to ruin lives and dumb the masses down.

Oh you have a lot in store for you when you wake up to Pavlovian training PSYOPs. It's not just the liquor industry, it is everything. Everything.

Turn on, Tune In, Drop Out. <-- General philosophy to break away from the Matrix, not to go wild with acid.

This is such an interesting convo to me! Can you/others recommend some other things to dig into? I definitely am feeling this way about alcohol.

Look into how much advertising influenced culture in the 20th century. It's easy to see now how many false ideas were promoted in order to sell things. I say this because it's harder to see what the equivalent is today but it's so easy to see it when it's in the past. There were cigarette ads with doctors supposedly promoting certain brands and things and you can see a lot of baloney (pun intended) and emotional manipulation in food ads as well as many cultural norms used or even manipulated in order to sell things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Went to a restaurant last night with 10 people and less than half ordered cocktails and alcohol. But the ones that did definitely made up for the rest of us sober people!

Maybe the drunks missed the recent revelations that there is:

NO safe amount of ALCOHOL.

There is no safe amount of anything. Nothing is "good for you" when you get down to it. Live you life in fear if you want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn't even plan to give it up completely but once you're sober you realize how cringe drinking is and how the masses are under a spell. I don't even want to be associated with alcohol anymore.

Why do you reflexively need a glass of wine or cocktail right when you sit down at a restaurant? Why do you reflexively need beers at an MLB baseball game? Why do middle aged parents at a travel sports tournament or work conference reflexively need to act like unreformed frat boys and sorority girls?

A hundred million Americans trained to act like Pavlov's dogs. I'm now convinced entire industry is a predatory psyop to ruin lives and dumb the masses down.

Oh you have a lot in store for you when you wake up to Pavlovian training PSYOPs. It's not just the liquor industry, it is everything. Everything.

Turn on, Tune In, Drop Out. <-- General philosophy to break away from the Matrix, not to go wild with acid.

This is such an interesting convo to me! Can you/others recommend some other things to dig into? I definitely am feeling this way about alcohol.

Not sure you are understanding what I was referring to though.

But look behind the curtain on any topic, and you will learn a lot about how much you are lied to by the media, culture, people, advertising, politics, etc. etc.

Everything is a con of some sort, and everything is manipulated and spun a certain way for various reasons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Now that we know what we know about alcohol and cancer, why is anyone still drinking?

Now do carbs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now that we know what we know about alcohol and cancer, why is anyone still drinking?

Now do carbs.

Carbs are fine if you work an exhausting job. But most Americans are crushing carbs and sitting on their ass all day with an email/zoom/spreadsheet laptop job.

Kind of dovetails on the boozing. A lot of these remote workers and people with cush jobs are boozing the hardest. Like I can understand a construction worker wanting an ice cold beer after clocking out. I don’t really get laptop job people who yearn for wine or hard alcohol at 5 pm (if not earlier).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn't even plan to give it up completely but once you're sober you realize how cringe drinking is and how the masses are under a spell. I don't even want to be associated with alcohol anymore.

Why do you reflexively need a glass of wine or cocktail right when you sit down at a restaurant? Why do you reflexively need beers at an MLB baseball game? Why do middle aged parents at a travel sports tournament or work conference reflexively need to act like unreformed frat boys and sorority girls?

A hundred million Americans trained to act like Pavlov's dogs. I'm now convinced entire industry is a predatory psyop to ruin lives and dumb the masses down.

Oh you have a lot in store for you when you wake up to Pavlovian training PSYOPs. It's not just the liquor industry, it is everything. Everything.

Turn on, Tune In, Drop Out. <-- General philosophy to break away from the Matrix, not to go wild with acid.

This is such an interesting convo to me! Can you/others recommend some other things to dig into? I definitely am feeling this way about alcohol.

Look into how much advertising influenced culture in the 20th century. It's easy to see now how many false ideas were promoted in order to sell things. I say this because it's harder to see what the equivalent is today but it's so easy to see it when it's in the past. There were cigarette ads with doctors supposedly promoting certain brands and things and you can see a lot of baloney (pun intended) and emotional manipulation in food ads as well as many cultural norms used or even manipulated in order to sell things.

For one version today, see: Meta trying to pretend they actually care about teen mental health. I am bombarded with their ads for teen accounts, which...hard pass.

I think at some point we may - but I can't guarantee it - find that those advertising AI were also lying through their teeth in advertising. Even now you'll find breathless accounts of how perfect AI and then a few days later contradictions about how it BSes all the time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn't even plan to give it up completely but once you're sober you realize how cringe drinking is and how the masses are under a spell. I don't even want to be associated with alcohol anymore.

Why do you reflexively need a glass of wine or cocktail right when you sit down at a restaurant? Why do you reflexively need beers at an MLB baseball game? Why do middle aged parents at a travel sports tournament or work conference reflexively need to act like unreformed frat boys and sorority girls?

A hundred million Americans trained to act like Pavlov's dogs. I'm now convinced entire industry is a predatory psyop to ruin lives and dumb the masses down.

Oh you have a lot in store for you when you wake up to Pavlovian training PSYOPs. It's not just the liquor industry, it is everything. Everything.

Turn on, Tune In, Drop Out. <-- General philosophy to break away from the Matrix, not to go wild with acid.

This is such an interesting convo to me! Can you/others recommend some other things to dig into? I definitely am feeling this way about alcohol.

Not sure you are understanding what I was referring to though.

But look behind the curtain on any topic, and you will learn a lot about how much you are lied to by the media, culture, people, advertising, politics, etc. etc.

Everything is a con of some sort, and everything is manipulated and spun a certain way for various reasons.

Profit, profit, profit. I also remember when physicians were promoting cigarettes. They’re a callous bunch, at least most of them. Buyer beware.

“A healthy person is lost revenue.”