Sobriety trend gaining steam? Noticed all last week…

[Anonymous]

People drink out of loneliness, depression, and boredom. Truly fulfilled people don't need it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I didn't even plan to give it up completely but once you're sober you realize how cringe drinking is and how the masses are under a spell. I don't even want to be associated with alcohol anymore.

Why do you reflexively need a glass of wine or cocktail right when you sit down at a restaurant? Why do you reflexively need beers at an MLB baseball game? Why do middle aged parents at a travel sports tournament or work conference reflexively need to act like unreformed frat boys and sorority girls?

A hundred million Americans trained to act like Pavlov's dogs. I'm now convinced entire industry is a predatory psyop to ruin lives and dumb the masses down.

I agree with this. I remember about 20 years ago there were all these cutsie tchotzkes for wine drinking aimed at women, and watching actors in movies (whose bodies don't look like drinkers' bodies) blithely drink glasses of wine at every dinner, as if wine drinking isn't really drinking alcohol, and has no ill effects. It's a cruel joke.

[Anonymous]

^^adding to above: plus all the beer ads aimed at men during sports. It's like brainwashing.

[Anonymous]

We've given up alcohol to save money as well as for health reasons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^adding to above: plus all the beer ads aimed at men during sports. It's like brainwashing.

It’s not like brainwashing, it is brainwashing. Every show, movie, song, talk show dialogue, print and TV ads, everything for decades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People drink out of loneliness, depression, and boredom. Truly fulfilled people don't need it.

I know you're a troll, but you're not far off.

I've got enough stuff going on in my life I don't have much time to have a drink, the things I do enjoy would rarely be enhanced by drinking and the things I dont' like would almost universally be made worse by drinking.

I've got no problem with casually having a drink with a friend if I'm at their house, or if I'm out to dinner having wine with dinner or meeting someone at a bar for some cocktails, but it's just not part of my daily life. And I really can't fathom the lives of people who it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People drink out of loneliness, depression, and boredom. Truly fulfilled people don't need it.

Your opinion is insightful, and you kind of sound like an addict, perhaps not just alcohol, but of other things? Food or OCD activities perhaps?

People drink, eat, etc. for enjoyment, not as a crutch.

" Addicts" drink, binge eat, etc. for the reasons you give.

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Anonymous wrote:As the wife of an alcoholic, this would be good news. We all know prohibition doesn't work, but alcohol use disorder is a terrible disease.

This. Women specifically were lied to that a glass of wine a day was good for us and we'd live longer. Nope. You're more likely to have breast cancer because of that glass of wine. I remember a study that made big news that said pregnant women could consume moderate amounts of alcohol during their pregnancies with no ill effects. We all know that was bs and I have a friend who followed this bs and had a child with fetal alcohol syndrome.

I learned very quickly in my 30s that drunk people are no fun to be around. When my children were small I was stunned by the friends/neighbors who would get trashed at lunches and then drive their kids to various activities all evening. I lost a family member to a drunk driver so I hate people who are so casual about drunk driving.

Wine is the worst alcoholic drink to have for any "health" benefits, due to the preservatives in it, the sulfites.

Natural beer, that is unfiltered and un-pasteurized, with live yeast still, is healthy and still used by monks for fasting periods. You either have to find bottle conditioned unpasteurized or else real fresh kegged beer for that. The American pilsner light adjunct garbage doesn't cut it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I didn't even plan to give it up completely but once you're sober you realize how cringe drinking is and how the masses are under a spell. I don't even want to be associated with alcohol anymore.

Why do you reflexively need a glass of wine or cocktail right when you sit down at a restaurant? Why do you reflexively need beers at an MLB baseball game? Why do middle aged parents at a travel sports tournament or work conference reflexively need to act like unreformed frat boys and sorority girls?

A hundred million Americans trained to act like Pavlov's dogs. I'm now convinced entire industry is a predatory psyop to ruin lives and dumb the masses down.

Oh you have a lot in store for you when you wake up to Pavlovian training PSYOPs. It's not just the liquor industry, it is everything. Everything.

Turn on, Tune In, Drop Out. <-- General philosophy to break away from the Matrix, not to go wild with acid.

[Anonymous]

I am 50 and stopped drinking a few years ago because of an unrelated health condition. I don’t care if other people drink. I enjoy mocktails when I am at work functions because it feels more social to have something to drink when others are too. And I honestly like them. It’s a little treat. However, as a non drinker I am still in the minority at these work functions.

My college age son does not drink and neither do any of his friends. He is very health conscious and in a health major and he says alcohol is pure poison for the body. He is not wrong.

I don’t know anyone who does weed. Doesn’t mean nobody does but no one talks about it or does it in front of me. I would never touch the stuff and my son says no one he knows smokes either.

[Anonymous]

Now that we know what we know about alcohol and cancer, why is anyone still drinking?

[Anonymous]

Lent. Lots of folks give up alcohol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People drink out of loneliness, depression, and boredom. Truly fulfilled people don't need it.

I know you're a troll, but you're not far off.

I've got enough stuff going on in my life I don't have much time to have a drink, the things I do enjoy would rarely be enhanced by drinking and the things I dont' like would almost universally be made worse by drinking.

I've got no problem with casually having a drink with a friend if I'm at their house, or if I'm out to dinner having wine with dinner or meeting someone at a bar for some cocktails, but it's just not part of my daily life. And I really can't fathom the lives of people who it is.

That's not trolling, that's straight from a Billy Graham sermon, which I heard last week on his Sirius XM station, which just replays his sermons all day.

"Are you lonely? One of the principle causes of loneliness is alcoholism and drug use. Alcohol and drugs are efforts to escape loneliness. Drugs take you on a trip and being drunk makes you feel that you've got somebody with you. On the other hand, going with Christ is a trip in which you really, always have Jesus with you as your Lord and companion. You cannot drink your way out of loneliness. Most young people turn to drugs for kicks and get hooked, or peer pressure. But thousands turn to drugs because of loneliness." - Billy Graham, 1987 in Denver, Colorado

Graham's life and ministry were marked by a strong emphasis on abstinence from alcohol and a focus on personal moral integrity. He actively preached against the dangers of alcoholism, viewing it as a sin and a societal problem. His close relationships with other prominent figures, like US presidents and other religious leaders, also reinforce his commitment to a sober and principled lifestyle. Graham consistently condemned alcoholism in his sermons and writings, presenting it as a sin and a destructive force.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn't even plan to give it up completely but once you're sober you realize how cringe drinking is and how the masses are under a spell. I don't even want to be associated with alcohol anymore.

Why do you reflexively need a glass of wine or cocktail right when you sit down at a restaurant? Why do you reflexively need beers at an MLB baseball game? Why do middle aged parents at a travel sports tournament or work conference reflexively need to act like unreformed frat boys and sorority girls?

A hundred million Americans trained to act like Pavlov's dogs. I'm now convinced entire industry is a predatory psyop to ruin lives and dumb the masses down.

I agree with this. I remember about 20 years ago there were all these cutsie tchotzkes for wine drinking aimed at women, and watching actors in movies (whose bodies don't look like drinkers' bodies) blithely drink glasses of wine at every dinner, as if wine drinking isn't really drinking alcohol, and has no ill effects. It's a cruel joke.

Really pay attention to people around you in a restaurant. The way they sit down and immediately order drinks. How their voice raises and they have some cutesy way to frame it. It's honestly pathetic.

[Anonymous]

Billy Graham is not someone I'd take life advice from, but I'm glad he's helped you