DOGE access--Please explain to me like I'm five...

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Anonymous wrote:We have the receipts now. Isn’t life grand?!

https://doge.gov/savings

Ok let’s break it down. This is certainly not in my wheelhouse, but I try to look at the big picture instead of basing everything off a scary-looking screen grab.

So, I went to a pearl-clutch-inducing contract for $25m with USDA for DEIA assessment/training. Upon closer look, the contract is *up to* $25m over a 5-year period. I think that this does not mean that they have or will get paid the whole amount. It is a blanket purchase agreement. Looking at the “receipts” it appears that maybe none of it has been paid out..?

Again, I am no expert on this, so hopefully someone better qualified than I am will come along and explain.

I did not see the receipts for Elon’s $20 billion in government contracts. Did I miss that? Can you share that link?

You’re not reading this wrong. They are posting things like this because they know lots of people will FAIL to do their necessary research to see what each of these contracts really are. And when people ask substantive questions and in depth investigation (like what is done in a real audit) then they will deflect.

Simple put all they are doing is cancelling contracts that haven’t started payment yet, or using some truly questionable criteria to put others on the chopping block.

Lucky for you the DOGE website dumbs it downfor you and separates by savings and total contract amount.

No that’s dumbing it down for you, because us smart folks understand how audits work so know to ask questions. Like, what services was this organization actually supposed to provide? Like, if we kill the news subscriptions, what impact will that have on our Foriegn Service staff and others who are charged with keeping up with this sort of thing? When was the decision made to shutter certain lease and property agreements?

Details matter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We have the receipts now. Isn’t life grand?!

https://doge.gov/savings

Ok let’s break it down. This is certainly not in my wheelhouse, but I try to look at the big picture instead of basing everything off a scary-looking screen grab.

So, I went to a pearl-clutch-inducing contract for $25m with USDA for DEIA assessment/training. Upon closer look, the contract is *up to* $25m over a 5-year period. I think that this does not mean that they have or will get paid the whole amount. It is a blanket purchase agreement. Looking at the “receipts” it appears that maybe none of it has been paid out..?

Again, I am no expert on this, so hopefully someone better qualified than I am will come along and explain.

I did not see the receipts for Elon’s $20 billion in government contracts. Did I miss that? Can you share that link?

You’re not reading this wrong. They are posting things like this because they know lots of people will FAIL to do their necessary research to see what each of these contracts really are. And when people ask substantive questions and in depth investigation (like what is done in a real audit) then they will deflect.

Simple put all they are doing is cancelling contracts that haven’t started payment yet, or using some truly questionable criteria to put others on the chopping block.

Lucky for you the DOGE website dumbs it downfor you and separates by savings and total contract amount.

No that’s dumbing it down for you, because us smart folks understand how audits work so know to ask questions. Like, what services was this organization actually supposed to provide? Like, if we kill the news subscriptions, what impact will that have on our Foriegn Service staff and others who are charged with keeping up with this sort of thing? When was the decision made to shutter certain lease and property agreements?

Details matter.

Ok you went from whining about actual savings to now whining about magazine subscriptions? You’re not as smart as you think troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’d like to know this too. If I sauntered into a government building demanding access to classified information, I’m sure I’d be escorted out by security. For the initial onslaughts, Musk had zero official government position and still has no clearances. Is being known as a friend of Trump somehow magically enough to open doors? And to allow him to fire people?

Clearly he’s getting his money’s worth — at the expense of citizens and taxpayers.

Is the argument that Musk was purportedly granted permission for DOGE to look at things like IRS data, as he was granted permission by Trump, who is operating under the Unitary Executive theory that essentially states the president can do whatever he wants in his “official capacity”? I’m trying to boil this down to the essentials. Thanks.

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Anonymous wrote:DOGE works for The President of the United States of America, you know, the person who WON the last election.

Why aren’t you finding anyone who can win NEXT time?

Ok so you just think the potus is always right and can do whatever they want? Was this your response every time someone criticized Biden?

The president works for us. We do not work for him.

If you work in the Executive Branch of Federal Government he’s kind of your boss. The American People elected him to do the very job he’s doing. If you didn’t like him you should’ve found someone better than a unintelligent Boomer to run against him.

So…again…is this how you felt over the past four years?

I wasn’t the person you asked that question to, you should ask them, I don’t even know what you’re talking about.

During the Biden admin, did you say things like, “If you are a fed, he is your boss and he is doing what the American people elected him to do. If you don’t like it, you should have found someone other than an unintelligent boomer to run against him.”

For the record, I don’t recall him saying that he was going to give Musk and a bunch of college kids untethered access to all of our data. I don’t recall him saying that Musk could decide which government funding was ok and could cancel all the rest. I don’t recall any warning that government firings would be so extraordinarily indiscriminate that they might accidentally fire very crucial nuclear personnel so carelessly that they have no way to contact them to ask them to return. I don’t recall a warning that planes might start falling out of the sky and that he would respond to this by cutting hundreds from FAA. Yeah…I don’t think this is what America voted for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DOGE works for The President of the United States of America, you know, the person who WON the last election.

Why aren’t you finding anyone who can win NEXT time?

In the US we have the Rule of Law. NOT the Rule of Man.

[Anonymous]

Here’s another one!

H R PUFF & STUFF LLC
$25,000,000
DIVERSITY, EQUITY, INCLUSION AND ACCESSIBILITY (DEIA) ASSESSMENT AND TRAINING SERVICES

[Anonymous]

The insanity, this is why we're bankrupt.

HUGH JASS GROUP LLC
$25,000,000
DIVERSITY, EQUITY, INCLUSION AND ACCESSIBILITY (DEIA) ASSESSMENT AND TRAINING SERVICES

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here’s another one!

H R PUFF & STUFF LLC
$25,000,000
DIVERSITY, EQUITY, INCLUSION AND ACCESSIBILITY (DEIA) ASSESSMENT AND TRAINING SERVICES

Proof?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DOGE works for The President of the United States of America, you know, the person who WON the last election.

Why aren’t you finding anyone who can win NEXT time?

Ok so you just think the potus is always right and can do whatever they want? Was this your response every time someone criticized Biden?

The president works for us. We do not work for him.

If you work in the Executive Branch of Federal Government he’s kind of your boss. The American People elected him to do the very job he’s doing. If you didn’t like him you should’ve found someone better than a unintelligent Boomer to run against him.

So…again…is this how you felt over the past four years?

I wasn’t the person you asked that question to, you should ask them, I don’t even know what you’re talking about.

During the Biden admin, did you say things like, “If you are a fed, he is your boss and he is doing what the American people elected him to do. If you don’t like it, you should have found someone other than an unintelligent boomer to run against him.”

For the record, I don’t recall him saying that he was going to give Musk and a bunch of college kids untethered access to all of our data. I don’t recall him saying that Musk could decide which government funding was ok and could cancel all the rest. I don’t recall any warning that government firings would be so extraordinarily indiscriminate that they might accidentally fire very crucial nuclear personnel so carelessly that they have no way to contact them to ask them to return. I don’t recall a warning that planes might start falling out of the sky and that he would respond to this by cutting hundreds from FAA. Yeah…I don’t think this is what America voted for.

+100

People are dying and getting hurt in plane crashes after years of no domestic commercial air crashes. Now we've had two or three in a few weeks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fun fAct: Doge recommends and Agency head makes cuts

Another fUn facT: Elon has had a top secret clearance for over a decade

No, Elon's clearance was about to be revoked due to his drug addictions and usage. That's one reason he's firing everyone and attacking agencies and people.

He hates USAID after earning buttloads of $$ from contracts with them for Starlink. He didn't like they were investigating how the Russians got access to Starlink, so she fired the people doing the investigation.

We all now think that Musk gave Starlink to the Russians and that would break the law.

See how this works?

Musk is attacking people who would have put him jail. He doesn't give a shiz about saving money.

It's amazing. I'm wondering why I can't just break the law and then fire anyone who could get me in trouble.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump just confirmed that Elon has no authority to speak for him, and is only an advisor to Trump himself.
Nothing he says has any legal weight or Presidential endorsement. Elon and his coterie of goons can lie all we wants, and government employees should ignore them.

https://www.axios.com/2025/02/18/musk-doge-authority-trump-white-house

Ohhhhh, look who is still scared of the courts then. Look who is not totally ignoring the courts...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We have the receipts now. Isn’t life grand?!

https://doge.gov/savings

$55 BB saved. According to Musk's website.

So where does that savings go?

It buys Musk another plane or another compound for his concubines.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DOGE employees are federal employees with security clearances. Hopefully you understand what that means. In short, it means they passed security clearance checks.

Is this true?

Musk's clearance was in the process of being taken away due to his drug use, so I doubt it. That's one reason he's gone crazy trying to fire everyone.

Elon Musk has clearances you don’t even know exist.

Hilarious! And from Republican FOX of all places!!

Guess he has too much interaction with foreigners for his clearance to be increased. Look how scared they were to ask for a higher clearance...

"SpaceX CEO Elon Musk's knowledge of the work the space exploration company does for the U.S. military and intelligence community is limited by his security clearance level, but the company reportedly has not sought to secure a higher clearance for Musk over concerns about disclosures that could jeopardize his current clearance.

The Wall Street Journal reported citing people familiar with the matter that SpaceX lawyers recommended that the company's leadership not pursue a higher security clearance for Musk because he would have been asked about contacts with foreign officials as well as his prior drug use."

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/why-elon-musk-doesnt-have-access-all-spacexs-top-secret-work-report

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump just confirmed that Elon has no authority to speak for him, and is only an advisor to Trump himself.
Nothing he says has any legal weight or Presidential endorsement. Elon and his coterie of goons can lie all we wants, and government employees should ignore them.

https://www.axios.com/2025/02/18/musk-doge-authority-trump-white-house

LOL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s another one!

H R PUFF & STUFF LLC
$25,000,000
DIVERSITY, EQUITY, INCLUSION AND ACCESSIBILITY (DEIA) ASSESSMENT AND TRAINING SERVICES

Proof?

Huh? I am not even sure what side that poster is on...look at the names...obvi a joke but 🤦🏻‍♂️