How to know a college is safe for POC

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Anonymous wrote:The concept of POC doesn't exist. No such thing, especially after the 2924 election. No solidarity or commonality.

Doesn’t have to mean solidarity. There are people who are non-white

So what is the point of using the term then? Using it means it conveys some advantage to you. Freedom of claiming to be a "minority" when when crying "I am oppressed" but leaving the freedom to drop the label when wanting to be seen as American only (don't ask me what country I am from!)?

You just have a very inflexible definition and use of the term, but that doesn’t mean I do. Poc are just non white people- doesn’t mean they’re best friends.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a black male (non-AA, biracial if it matters). I applied to the top LACs and a few (lower) ivies a couple of years ago with a 35 ACT, got into basically all of the LACs and an Ivy. Chose the ivy.

Based on the experiences of my friends who attended the LACs, I chose right. LACs' small size and the small towns they're in would've made for a stifling and bland social environment and the student body's wealth doesn't help either. Your son might be more used to this coming from a boarding school but it's something to keep in mind.

The number of black males with top scores is <200/year so your kid has a great chance of getting into an Ivy. I'd strongly recommend it as your son will be able to chart his own course with a larger school/more opportunities.

Good luck!

Ah yes the cosmopolitan epicenters of Providence, Hanover, Princeton, and Ithaca.!

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Op this thread is long and I've only read a few posts. I understand your son has a very high SAT

I would suggest all the Ivy League colleges, Oxford and Cambridge, Howard, Spellman plus UCLA and Berkeley.

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Anonymous wrote:Op this thread is long and I've only read a few posts. I understand your son has a very high SAT

I would suggest all the Ivy League colleges, Oxford and Cambridge, Howard, Spellman plus UCLA and Berkeley.

DP but why Berkeley?

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Anonymous wrote:Op this thread is long and I've only read a few posts. I understand your son has a very high SAT

I would suggest all the Ivy League colleges, Oxford and Cambridge, Howard, Spellman plus UCLA and Berkeley.

UCLA and Berkeley are test blind

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OP: Encourage Ivy as well as Vandy, Duke etc.

The stats support that direction.

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Anonymous wrote:Op this thread is long and I've only read a few posts. I understand your son has a very high SAT

I would suggest all the Ivy League colleges, Oxford and Cambridge, Howard, Spellman plus UCLA and Berkeley.

you mean Morehouse

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Anonymous wrote:With the way parents are defending hbcus, you’d think there’d be more white kids at these schools! I didn’t know they were so elite

Not all of them are, but the networking opportunities at the large ones (Howard, Florida A&M, NC A&T, Morehouse/Spelman) are immaculate.

Don’t discount this OP. I went to a top 20 school while my DH attended one mentioned by the pp. The alumni connections and networking opportunities he had far exceed mine (even after 25+ years)

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I'm not sure if this would be in the right vein but there's a small Residential (liberal arts) College within University of Michigan for you to take a look at. There's a video at the link below.

https://lsa.umich.edu/rc/about-us.html

It's a bit 1960s-ish but the courses look pretty interesting to me. I think the dorm/classroom building is neat. My freshman lives in it, though he's not part of the RC. There's a stage theater in the basement and a nice cafeteria.

I got an MBA at U of M and was friends with some of the black students in my class. Several were from HBCUs, some were former officers in the U.S. military, one was a former USPTO patent examiner from DC, one was from the UK. My observation was that they felt good about the program and had friends in different social and racial groups that they moved fluidly between. There clearly were some black Greek connections in play, etc.

I will say the recent NYT article about DEI featured some disappointment by black student leaders with the University's admissions record. I have some objections to parts of that article but I would of course always recommend checking out the situation firsthand. Maybe there's a University of Michigan Black Alumni group near you that you could get some answers from.

https://www.umbagoblue.org/get-involved

Worth a look.

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A black male scoring above 1580 is a unicorn. If he is uncomfortable attending school in the United States, have him look at overseas universities which value abnormally high test scores, such as the Oxbridge schools.

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Thread is long but Emory, Georgetown, Rice, UChicago, NYU, Columbia top schools in Black or very diverse cities.

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Anonymous wrote:A black male scoring above 1580 is a unicorn. If he is uncomfortable attending school in the United States, have him look at overseas universities which value abnormally high test scores, such as the Oxbridge schools.

Oxford also wants to see three APs at grade 5. The application process is more about demonstrating interest and ability to read in a certain subject which is proven in a difficult interview. Finally, if you think US is racist, wait until your kids gets to Oxbridge. Think that through very carefully

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Anonymous wrote:DC is interested in a top LAC, but, after checking the CDS, there were only 22 black students in a class of 436 accepted this most recent cycle- 1/3 of past cycles.

DS currently goes to a boarding school that isn’t racist, but he also wouldn’t call tolerant. He was really hoping to be able to go to a college of his choice but also find community, so this has been very disappointing. Should we throw in the towel?

It’s understandable to feel concerned, but I would encourage you not to dismiss the possibility of applying to this school just yet. There’s no indication that Pomona—or other similar colleges—is discriminatory; in fact, previous years’ data show fluctuations in enrollment numbers, with Pomona admitting 41 Black students out of 408 the year prior. A one-year dip may not reflect a long-term trend.

It’s also worth noting that many colleges have experienced shifts in Black and Latino enrollment since the end of affirmative action. This landscape may continue to evolve, so it’s important not to let recent data discourage you from considering an excellent school.

Your child’s strong academic performance is a testament to their hard work and resilience, and you should be proud of their ability to thrive without the need for preferential admissions policies. Applying Regular Decision keeps all options open, and ultimately, the choice to enroll—if admitted—will be entirely yours.

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Anonymous wrote:Op this thread is long and I've only read a few posts. I understand your son has a very high SAT

I would suggest all the Ivy League colleges, Oxford and Cambridge, Howard, Spellman plus UCLA and Berkeley.

UCLA and Berkeley are test blind

Why would a kid with a 1580 care about test blind schools? And why would a high scoring black student even look at Berkeley? Only 3.5 percent of students are black. And UCLA is not much better. Ivy League and southern elite schools - Vanderbilt, Duke, Rice, Emory - would be a better fit for smart POC.

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You also might want to look at the percentage of black faculty members, if you are concerned about implicit bias and networking. These data are for universities. You might need to check individual webpages for NESCAC and similar.

https://www.newamerica.org/education-policy/edcentral/a-snapshot-of-faculty-diversity-at-top-public-research-universities/