How to know a college is safe for POC

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But on the off chance you're not, you need to come to the fast realization that lack of diversity does not make a university "unsafe". Whatever that means.

Also, HBCUs are a thing.

Oh, screw it...you're definitely a troll.

Not a troll. Why can I not be concerned for my child to be an extreme minority in a majority white and Asian institution? It’d be incredibly naive to assume people will be ladidada inclusive.

Are you? Kids tend to not think about race in a way their parents do. They make close friendships and date and create businesses etc. It is the parents who push the need for being with x group. Have your child look at schools and some LAC offer weekend programs for applying students. Reach out to admissions and address your concerns. Maybe they will put you in touch with a current student.

This is also my child’s concerned. My DS wants to have a connection to black students at his school and feel that there’s a community. Thanks to the parents who have responded in good faith and helped. All I’ve asked is for schools that have higher black populations, not ones that are nearly fully black. I’m thankful for those who’ve tried to make this clear.

There are lots of ways to find community.

And race is one of them. I personally adored the BSU at my school and found a different type of community in that sphere that no other on campus community replicated.

I know exactly how you feel op! I was a young Korean student who wanted to feel like she had a voice after years of intolerance at mostly white schools. I went to Berkeley and will never forget making dishes from home with all my friends and being able to speak my language with people who understood and cared. My friends in the Korean student association got me through graduation, I can confidently say.

You sound really aloof and judgmental.

Aw, I hope you can survive hearing a Korean woman talk about her experience online being with Korean students. Must be really hard for you. Want me to drink at a different water fountain too?

Well, clearly they do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Duke, Duke, Duke, duke

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Anonymous wrote:People here are being purposely obtuse. OP, it is a valid concern that your son may not fit in, and he’s clearly bright and should be challenged by peers at his academic level. Follow the suggestions for colleges like Duke and vandy who attract black students and don’t force your child to go to an hbcu if they don’t want to.

Also find black parent forums. This one less than a year ago wanted people like yours systematically rejected from higher Ed and their nasty attitudes come out every time a black parent asks a question.

Why is a 1580 black student clearly bright but don't know anything about a 1580 asian student because...holistic

I think a 1580 asian student is bright too, not sure why you just assumed I'm a racist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a black male (non-AA, biracial if it matters). I applied to the top LACs and a few (lower) ivies a couple of years ago with a 35 ACT, got into basically all of the LACs and an Ivy. Chose the ivy.

Based on the experiences of my friends who attended the LACs, I chose right. LACs' small size and the small towns they're in would've made for a stifling and bland social environment and the student body's wealth doesn't help either. Your son might be more used to this coming from a boarding school but it's something to keep in mind.

The number of black males with top scores is <200/year so your kid has a great chance of getting into an Ivy. I'd strongly recommend it as your son will be able to chart his own course with a larger school/more opportunities.

Good luck!

How so? Race doesn't matter anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids apply and go to colleges they wish to attend. There are multiple efforts to reach out to various communities to entice them to apply and attend. Nevertheless, as your son illustrates, people generally want to be with people who look and act like themselves.

Has your son considered HBCUs? If that's his primary focus, there might be a good fit there. Otherwise, he may need to expand his search and look at data to decide whether there is enough of a critical mass of people like him to make him wish to attend. You only mention one school--I'm quite sure there are others with data more to your liking.

I wish him the best in his search.

No he hasn’t considered hbcus, because he is a top student. He has a 1580 and great course rigor. Hbcus are great, but it’s annoying that it’s assumed black students will just walk to one.

You want more black people for him but then put HBCU’s down because he is too good for them academically.

Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that.

There’s more than a handful of talented black students. The assumption that all the black talent is at HBCUs is just lazy, blatant racism.

"No he hasn’t considered hbcus, because he is a top student. He has a 1580 and great course rigor."

Um, who are you calling racist, exactly? OP wants a college where her child won't stick out racially, but won't consider Ft. Valley State with its 92% black student body because her 1580 child is too good for it. Sounds like she's the one with preconceived notions.

…Because he is a pretty good student. I’m confused on what’s being argued. It’s just factual that the average 1500 student isn’t an academic match at Ft Valley state.

Or really, any HBCU.

And the 1400 black student isn't an academic match for harvard... or really any ivy+

But there's luckily a bunch of schools in between Harvard and colleges with an SAT average in the 900s. Apparently, we only can choose between the ivy league and community college these days.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Troll.

But on the off chance you're not, you need to come to the fast realization that lack of diversity does not make a university "unsafe". Whatever that means.

Also, HBCUs are a thing.

Oh, screw it...you're definitely a troll.

Not a troll. Why can I not be concerned for my child to be an extreme minority in a majority white and Asian institution? It’d be incredibly naive to assume people will be ladidada inclusive.

Are you? Kids tend to not think about race in a way their parents do. They make close friendships and date and create businesses etc. It is the parents who push the need for being with x group. Have your child look at schools and some LAC offer weekend programs for applying students. Reach out to admissions and address your concerns. Maybe they will put you in touch with a current student.

This is also my child’s concerned. My DS wants to have a connection to black students at his school and feel that there’s a community. Thanks to the parents who have responded in good faith and helped. All I’ve asked is for schools that have higher black populations, not ones that are nearly fully black. I’m thankful for those who’ve tried to make this clear.

There are lots of ways to find community.

And race is one of them. I personally adored the BSU at my school and found a different type of community in that sphere that no other on campus community replicated.

I know exactly how you feel op! I was a young Korean student who wanted to feel like she had a voice after years of intolerance at mostly white schools. I went to Berkeley and will never forget making dishes from home with all my friends and being able to speak my language with people who understood and cared. My friends in the Korean student association got me through graduation, I can confidently say.

You sound really aloof and judgmental.

Aw, I hope you can survive hearing a Korean woman talk about her experience online being with Korean students. Must be really hard for you. Want me to drink at a different water fountain too?

I can see why white students were intolerant of you. hint: it's not your race.

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Anonymous wrote:OP: Pomona College is an outstanding school with access to four other great colleges. If you are concerned that black students represent less than 10% of the incoming class, then you should have not applied if that was a primary concern.

This was news that trickled out slowly. Other than the freshman class, Pomona has a representative black population.

Also, this was just the first post-SFFA cycle. Some schools like Yale and Williams were seemingly unaffected; others like MIT and Pomona were more affected. But I wouldn't expect MIT and Pomona's Black student intake for future classes to remain the as low as the c/o 2028.

I wouldn't expect Yale to remain as high as c/o 2028

[Anonymous]

DCUM has a lot more "color blind" racists than you'd expect for a liberal forum. Disappointing.

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Anonymous wrote:People here are being purposely obtuse. OP, it is a valid concern that your son may not fit in, and he’s clearly bright and should be challenged by peers at his academic level. Follow the suggestions for colleges like Duke and vandy who attract black students and don’t force your child to go to an hbcu if they don’t want to.

Also find black parent forums. This one less than a year ago wanted people like yours systematically rejected from higher Ed and their nasty attitudes come out every time a black parent asks a question.

Why is a 1580 black student clearly bright but don't know anything about a 1580 asian student because...holistic

I think a 1580 asian student is bright too, not sure why you just assumed I'm a racist.

Because we are on DCUM and about 90% of the posters here can tell you that we don't know anything about an asian student by their test score. They're probably boring

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Anonymous wrote:Kids apply and go to colleges they wish to attend. There are multiple efforts to reach out to various communities to entice them to apply and attend. Nevertheless, as your son illustrates, people generally want to be with people who look and act like themselves.

Has your son considered HBCUs? If that's his primary focus, there might be a good fit there. Otherwise, he may need to expand his search and look at data to decide whether there is enough of a critical mass of people like him to make him wish to attend. You only mention one school--I'm quite sure there are others with data more to your liking.

I wish him the best in his search.

No he hasn’t considered hbcus, because he is a top student. He has a 1580 and great course rigor. Hbcus are great, but it’s annoying that it’s assumed black students will just walk to one.

You want more black people for him but then put HBCU’s down because he is too good for them academically.

Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that.

There’s more than a handful of talented black students. The assumption that all the black talent is at HBCUs is just lazy, blatant racism.

"No he hasn’t considered hbcus, because he is a top student. He has a 1580 and great course rigor."

Um, who are you calling racist, exactly? OP wants a college where her child won't stick out racially, but won't consider Ft. Valley State with its 92% black student body because her 1580 child is too good for it. Sounds like she's the one with preconceived notions.

…Because he is a pretty good student. I’m confused on what’s being argued. It’s just factual that the average 1500 student isn’t an academic match at Ft Valley state.

Or really, any HBCU.

And the 1400 black student isn't an academic match for harvard... or really any ivy+

But there's luckily a bunch of schools in between Harvard and colleges with an SAT average in the 900s. Apparently, we only can choose between the ivy league and community college these days.

Yes and Howard/Spelman/Morehouse/Xavier are among them.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids apply and go to colleges they wish to attend. There are multiple efforts to reach out to various communities to entice them to apply and attend. Nevertheless, as your son illustrates, people generally want to be with people who look and act like themselves.

Has your son considered HBCUs? If that's his primary focus, there might be a good fit there. Otherwise, he may need to expand his search and look at data to decide whether there is enough of a critical mass of people like him to make him wish to attend. You only mention one school--I'm quite sure there are others with data more to your liking.

I wish him the best in his search.

No he hasn’t considered hbcus, because he is a top student. He has a 1580 and great course rigor. Hbcus are great, but it’s annoying that it’s assumed black students will just walk to one.

You want more black people for him but then put HBCU’s down because he is too good for them academically.

Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that.

There’s more than a handful of talented black students. The assumption that all the black talent is at HBCUs is just lazy, blatant racism.

"No he hasn’t considered hbcus, because he is a top student. He has a 1580 and great course rigor."

Um, who are you calling racist, exactly? OP wants a college where her child won't stick out racially, but won't consider Ft. Valley State with its 92% black student body because her 1580 child is too good for it. Sounds like she's the one with preconceived notions.

…Because he is a pretty good student. I’m confused on what’s being argued. It’s just factual that the average 1500 student isn’t an academic match at Ft Valley state.

Or really, any HBCU.

And the 1400 black student isn't an academic match for harvard... or really any ivy+

But there's luckily a bunch of schools in between Harvard and colleges with an SAT average in the 900s. Apparently, we only can choose between the ivy league and community college these days.

Yes and Howard/Spelman/Morehouse/Xavier are among them.

Even better, there's a bunch of schools between Harvard and Howard that are better academic fits for this student.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People here are being purposely obtuse. OP, it is a valid concern that your son may not fit in, and he’s clearly bright and should be challenged by peers at his academic level. Follow the suggestions for colleges like Duke and vandy who attract black students and don’t force your child to go to an hbcu if they don’t want to.

Also find black parent forums. This one less than a year ago wanted people like yours systematically rejected from higher Ed and their nasty attitudes come out every time a black parent asks a question.

Why is a 1580 black student clearly bright but don't know anything about a 1580 asian student because...holistic

I think a 1580 asian student is bright too, not sure why you just assumed I'm a racist.

Because we are on DCUM and about 90% of the posters here can tell you that we don't know anything about an asian student by their test score. They're probably boring

Maybe DCUM should fix its racism problem then. That fight is not mine, so if it bothers you, call it out more often to people actively saying these things.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids apply and go to colleges they wish to attend. There are multiple efforts to reach out to various communities to entice them to apply and attend. Nevertheless, as your son illustrates, people generally want to be with people who look and act like themselves.

Has your son considered HBCUs? If that's his primary focus, there might be a good fit there. Otherwise, he may need to expand his search and look at data to decide whether there is enough of a critical mass of people like him to make him wish to attend. You only mention one school--I'm quite sure there are others with data more to your liking.

I wish him the best in his search.

No he hasn’t considered hbcus, because he is a top student. He has a 1580 and great course rigor. Hbcus are great, but it’s annoying that it’s assumed black students will just walk to one.

You want more black people for him but then put HBCU’s down because he is too good for them academically.

Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that.

There’s more than a handful of talented black students. The assumption that all the black talent is at HBCUs is just lazy, blatant racism.

"No he hasn’t considered hbcus, because he is a top student. He has a 1580 and great course rigor."

Um, who are you calling racist, exactly? OP wants a college where her child won't stick out racially, but won't consider Ft. Valley State with its 92% black student body because her 1580 child is too good for it. Sounds like she's the one with preconceived notions.

…Because he is a pretty good student. I’m confused on what’s being argued. It’s just factual that the average 1500 student isn’t an academic match at Ft Valley state.

Or really, any HBCU.

And the 1400 black student isn't an academic match for harvard... or really any ivy+

But there's luckily a bunch of schools in between Harvard and colleges with an SAT average in the 900s. Apparently, we only can choose between the ivy league and community college these days.

Yes and Howard/Spelman/Morehouse/Xavier are among them.

Even better, there's a bunch of schools between Harvard and Howard that are better academic fits for this student.

Like SLACs. Which she's complaining about.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Kids apply and go to colleges they wish to attend. There are multiple efforts to reach out to various communities to entice them to apply and attend. Nevertheless, as your son illustrates, people generally want to be with people who look and act like themselves.

Has your son considered HBCUs? If that's his primary focus, there might be a good fit there. Otherwise, he may need to expand his search and look at data to decide whether there is enough of a critical mass of people like him to make him wish to attend. You only mention one school--I'm quite sure there are others with data more to your liking.

I wish him the best in his search.

No he hasn’t considered hbcus, because he is a top student. He has a 1580 and great course rigor. Hbcus are great, but it’s annoying that it’s assumed black students will just walk to one.

You want more black people for him but then put HBCU’s down because he is too good for them academically.

Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that.

There’s more than a handful of talented black students. The assumption that all the black talent is at HBCUs is just lazy, blatant racism.

"No he hasn’t considered hbcus, because he is a top student. He has a 1580 and great course rigor."

Um, who are you calling racist, exactly? OP wants a college where her child won't stick out racially, but won't consider Ft. Valley State with its 92% black student body because her 1580 child is too good for it. Sounds like she's the one with preconceived notions.

…Because he is a pretty good student. I’m confused on what’s being argued. It’s just factual that the average 1500 student isn’t an academic match at Ft Valley state.

Or really, any HBCU.

And the 1400 black student isn't an academic match for harvard... or really any ivy+

But there's luckily a bunch of schools in between Harvard and colleges with an SAT average in the 900s. Apparently, we only can choose between the ivy league and community college these days.

Yes and Howard/Spelman/Morehouse/Xavier are among them.

Even better, there's a bunch of schools between Harvard and Howard that are better academic fits for this student.

Like SLACs. Which she's complaining about.

Some people will never do anything in good faith. You are some people.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids apply and go to colleges they wish to attend. There are multiple efforts to reach out to various communities to entice them to apply and attend. Nevertheless, as your son illustrates, people generally want to be with people who look and act like themselves.

Has your son considered HBCUs? If that's his primary focus, there might be a good fit there. Otherwise, he may need to expand his search and look at data to decide whether there is enough of a critical mass of people like him to make him wish to attend. You only mention one school--I'm quite sure there are others with data more to your liking.

I wish him the best in his search.

No he hasn’t considered hbcus, because he is a top student. He has a 1580 and great course rigor. Hbcus are great, but it’s annoying that it’s assumed black students will just walk to one.

You want more black people for him but then put HBCU’s down because he is too good for them academically.

Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that.

There’s more than a handful of talented black students. The assumption that all the black talent is at HBCUs is just lazy, blatant racism.

"No he hasn’t considered hbcus, because he is a top student. He has a 1580 and great course rigor."

Um, who are you calling racist, exactly? OP wants a college where her child won't stick out racially, but won't consider Ft. Valley State with its 92% black student body because her 1580 child is too good for it. Sounds like she's the one with preconceived notions.

…Because he is a pretty good student. I’m confused on what’s being argued. It’s just factual that the average 1500 student isn’t an academic match at Ft Valley state.

Or really, any HBCU.

And the 1400 black student isn't an academic match for harvard... or really any ivy+

But there's luckily a bunch of schools in between Harvard and colleges with an SAT average in the 900s. Apparently, we only can choose between the ivy league and community college these days.

Yes and Howard/Spelman/Morehouse/Xavier are among them.

Even better, there's a bunch of schools between Harvard and Howard that are better academic fits for this student.

Like SLACs. Which she's complaining about.

Some people will never do anything in good faith. You are some people.

I'm sorry? My comments are in nothing but good faith. You're reading my frustration with OP and nothing more.