DDOT wants to charge $8/hr for street parking, require payment 24 hours/day

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Tip for the carbrained people hating on this. With "free" or "cheap" parking, you are still paying. Just in time and annoyance, or you are blocking parking for somebody else. Market rate is the way to go. There is no such thing as a free lunch.

Oh, and the businesses will be just fine, by the way. Thanks!

Thanks for confirming that your maturity level is consistent with the level of thought that DDOT put into this proposal.

There is no real life or academic study that supports your perspective.

There's literally hundreds if not thousands of real life and academic studies of the negative economic impact of congestion and reductions in access.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tip for the carbrained people hating on this. With "free" or "cheap" parking, you are still paying. Just in time and annoyance, or you are blocking parking for somebody else. Market rate is the way to go. There is no such thing as a free lunch.

Oh, and the businesses will be just fine, by the way. Thanks!

Thanks for confirming that your maturity level is consistent with the level of thought that DDOT put into this proposal.

Maturity has nothin to do with it, data does. Sorry :/

Hahahaha, you are so full of it that it is almost inconceivable.

"But wHeRe WiLl I PaRk!!!?!!"

[Anonymous]

There is an astounding level of entitlement from the suburban folks here. Believe it or not, people live in DC and their needs for parking need to be prioritized. If you wanna get out of your generic, lifeless home and visit a real place, that's fine. But you'll have to pay for it instead of being a leech or be subsidized by us. Thanks!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is an astounding level of entitlement from the suburban folks here. Believe it or not, people live in DC and their needs for parking need to be prioritized. If you wanna get out of your generic, lifeless home and visit a real place, that's fine. But you'll have to pay for it instead of being a leech or be subsidized by us. Thanks!

Unlike you, I was born, raised and still live in DC. Your ideas are bad and harm the city. Please go back to whatever non-local suburb you are from.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People still go to DC? I’m a city girl, but so much of the city has left, it is basically an outer ring suburban city. It’s pretty bland, getting more expensive, and getting less from it. If you’re not already here, why would you come?

What do you mean much of the city has left? The city is still the city and isn't comparable to the suburban satellites like Tysons or Mosaic or Reston or whatever. It's very different.

DC is kind of depressing now. I've lived here a long time and can't remember when things were this bad. The city used to seem to vibrant. Now so many neighborhoods are so quiet and empty and yet far more expensive than it used to be. You'd think DDOT could pause its jihad on cars until the city can get back on its feet.

There are two things hampering DC. Crime is the big one, and cars is the little one. Making it easier to drive/park in DC doesn't help the city with either.

The places in DC that people want to go to, like the Wharf mentioned above, are desirable because they aren't overrun with cars and parking. It has more "stuff" because it has less parking. Its the stuff that people want to have access to. DC needs to make it easier to get around without a car, which its doing in fits and starts.

If people actually wanted easy parking and high speed roads then Friendship Heights would not be in the state its currently in.

You sound like an old person with very weird theories about young people. "Why are young people these days always wearing blue hats?!!"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is an astounding level of entitlement from the suburban folks here. Believe it or not, people live in DC and their needs for parking need to be prioritized. If you wanna get out of your generic, lifeless home and visit a real place, that's fine. But you'll have to pay for it instead of being a leech or be subsidized by us. Thanks!

This from a 25 year old who pays so little in taxes that they wouldn't buy a single stop sign.

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Anonymous wrote:DDOT wants to charge $8 an hour to park on the street. They also think people should have to feed the meter 24 hours a day. They're going to charge these sky high rates in what they call the "New Greater U Street Performance Parking Zone" but if you look at the map, it covers a large chunk of NW. Likely only a matter of time before they expand this to other neighborhoods.

The Greater U Street Performance Parking Zone centers on the U Street NW Corridor and extends across a significant area in NW, Washington. In the southeast quadrant, the zone starts at the intersection of Florida Avenue NW and S Street NW and extends to Georgia Avenue NE and 17th Street NW. In the southwest quadrant, the zone runs from 17th Street NW heading east along U Street NW, then south down 14th Street and back to Florida Avenue NW via S Street NW. Parking rates vary between $3/hour and $8/hour throughout the zone. Rates change at three intervals throughout the day: 10am, 6pm, and 3am.

https://www.parkdc.com/pages/meters#performance_parking

Discouraging people from going to U Street for dining and entertainment seems like the exactly opposite of what U Street needs right now.

It's not discouraging people from going to U Street. It's simply discouraging people who drive to U Street from parking on the street for hours and hours. If anything, it will encourage people who drive to U Street, because street parking spaces will be more available.

People will just not go to U street at all if they don’t live in walking distance and are not close to public transit. I literally will never visit a DC restaurant or Bar again if this happens does. It’s not convenient to take public transit and it more than doubles my travel time to get to DC. If they make it difficult to park and start charging $8 an hour for parking I will avoid visiting DC entirely. This is a very poorly thought out plan that will kill DC businesses. Private parking garages will also raise their rates substantially if DC charges $8 per hour. A private parking garage in this zone could effectively charge $70 per day and still be cheaper than street parking rates.

There will never be enough parking for you bridge and tunnel people, so thanks for staying away. We literally don't need you. Stay in Virginia, please.

The economic illiteracy on this thread is astounding. There aren't enough people in Washington DC to support all the bars and restaurants. Half of them would close without the "bridge and tunnel people."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DDOT wants to charge $8 an hour to park on the street. They also think people should have to feed the meter 24 hours a day. They're going to charge these sky high rates in what they call the "New Greater U Street Performance Parking Zone" but if you look at the map, it covers a large chunk of NW. Likely only a matter of time before they expand this to other neighborhoods.

The Greater U Street Performance Parking Zone centers on the U Street NW Corridor and extends across a significant area in NW, Washington. In the southeast quadrant, the zone starts at the intersection of Florida Avenue NW and S Street NW and extends to Georgia Avenue NE and 17th Street NW. In the southwest quadrant, the zone runs from 17th Street NW heading east along U Street NW, then south down 14th Street and back to Florida Avenue NW via S Street NW. Parking rates vary between $3/hour and $8/hour throughout the zone. Rates change at three intervals throughout the day: 10am, 6pm, and 3am.

https://www.parkdc.com/pages/meters#performance_parking

Discouraging people from going to U Street for dining and entertainment seems like the exactly opposite of what U Street needs right now.

It's not discouraging people from going to U Street. It's simply discouraging people who drive to U Street from parking on the street for hours and hours. If anything, it will encourage people who drive to U Street, because street parking spaces will be more available.

People will just not go to U street at all if they don’t live in walking distance and are not close to public transit. I literally will never visit a DC restaurant or Bar again if this happens does. It’s not convenient to take public transit and it more than doubles my travel time to get to DC. If they make it difficult to park and start charging $8 an hour for parking I will avoid visiting DC entirely. This is a very poorly thought out plan that will kill DC businesses. Private parking garages will also raise their rates substantially if DC charges $8 per hour. A private parking garage in this zone could effectively charge $70 per day and still be cheaper than street parking rates.

There will never be enough parking for you bridge and tunnel people, so thanks for staying away. We literally don't need you. Stay in Virginia, please.

The economic illiteracy on this thread is astounding. There aren't enough people in Washington DC to support all the bars and restaurants. Half of them would close without the "bridge and tunnel people."

Go post on NYUM. You can complain about the congestion pricing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People still go to DC? I’m a city girl, but so much of the city has left, it is basically an outer ring suburban city. It’s pretty bland, getting more expensive, and getting less from it. If you’re not already here, why would you come?

What do you mean much of the city has left? The city is still the city and isn't comparable to the suburban satellites like Tysons or Mosaic or Reston or whatever. It's very different.

DC is kind of depressing now. I've lived here a long time and can't remember when things were this bad. The city used to seem to vibrant. Now so many neighborhoods are so quiet and empty and yet far more expensive than it used to be. You'd think DDOT could pause its jihad on cars until the city can get back on its feet.

DC sucks right now. It's like we're back in the bad old days before Anthony Williams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DDOT wants to charge $8 an hour to park on the street. They also think people should have to feed the meter 24 hours a day. They're going to charge these sky high rates in what they call the "New Greater U Street Performance Parking Zone" but if you look at the map, it covers a large chunk of NW. Likely only a matter of time before they expand this to other neighborhoods.

The Greater U Street Performance Parking Zone centers on the U Street NW Corridor and extends across a significant area in NW, Washington. In the southeast quadrant, the zone starts at the intersection of Florida Avenue NW and S Street NW and extends to Georgia Avenue NE and 17th Street NW. In the southwest quadrant, the zone runs from 17th Street NW heading east along U Street NW, then south down 14th Street and back to Florida Avenue NW via S Street NW. Parking rates vary between $3/hour and $8/hour throughout the zone. Rates change at three intervals throughout the day: 10am, 6pm, and 3am.

https://www.parkdc.com/pages/meters#performance_parking

Discouraging people from going to U Street for dining and entertainment seems like the exactly opposite of what U Street needs right now.

It's not discouraging people from going to U Street. It's simply discouraging people who drive to U Street from parking on the street for hours and hours. If anything, it will encourage people who drive to U Street, because street parking spaces will be more available.

People will just not go to U street at all if they don’t live in walking distance and are not close to public transit. I literally will never visit a DC restaurant or Bar again if this happens does. It’s not convenient to take public transit and it more than doubles my travel time to get to DC. If they make it difficult to park and start charging $8 an hour for parking I will avoid visiting DC entirely. This is a very poorly thought out plan that will kill DC businesses. Private parking garages will also raise their rates substantially if DC charges $8 per hour. A private parking garage in this zone could effectively charge $70 per day and still be cheaper than street parking rates.

There will never be enough parking for you bridge and tunnel people, so thanks for staying away. We literally don't need you. Stay in Virginia, please.

The economic illiteracy on this thread is astounding. There aren't enough people in Washington DC to support all the bars and restaurants. Half of them would close without the "bridge and tunnel people."

Again, this whole post is about street parking during peak times. The spaces used by bridge and tunnel people are laughably small and simply don't matter at all. DDOT has the numbers, you people simple choose to ignore them because you care only about your car.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is an astounding level of entitlement from the suburban folks here. Believe it or not, people live in DC and their needs for parking need to be prioritized. If you wanna get out of your generic, lifeless home and visit a real place, that's fine. But you'll have to pay for it instead of being a leech or be subsidized by us. Thanks!

This from a 25 year old who pays so little in taxes that they wouldn't buy a single stop sign.

Homeowner in DC in a home certainly worth more than yours, but thanks for the vote of confidence!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is an astounding level of entitlement from the suburban folks here. Believe it or not, people live in DC and their needs for parking need to be prioritized. If you wanna get out of your generic, lifeless home and visit a real place, that's fine. But you'll have to pay for it instead of being a leech or be subsidized by us. Thanks!

Unlike you, I was born, raised and still live in DC. Your ideas are bad and harm the city. Please go back to whatever non-local suburb you are from.

Harm car-owners, I think you mean. Which is not everyone.

Again, please stop being so selfish. It's not hard! Just think about other people. It's easy. My taxes shouldn't support your car. End of story.

[Anonymous]

In this thread: "Virginia and Maryland are so great and have tons of cool bars and restaurants, they will just go out in those neighborhoods instead of DC if this goes through! DC is being unfair and I'm mad!"

Also in this thread: "Everyone who goes to DC bars are from Maryland and Virginia! The bars will all close down without the Maryland people leaving where they live to hang out elsewhere!"

Can't have it both ways folks. lol.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is an astounding level of entitlement from the suburban folks here. Believe it or not, people live in DC and their needs for parking need to be prioritized. If you wanna get out of your generic, lifeless home and visit a real place, that's fine. But you'll have to pay for it instead of being a leech or be subsidized by us. Thanks!

Unlike you, I was born, raised and still live in DC. Your ideas are bad and harm the city. Please go back to whatever non-local suburb you are from.

Harm car-owners, I think you mean. Which is not everyone.

Again, please stop being so selfish. It's not hard! Just think about other people. It's easy. My taxes shouldn't support your car. End of story.

The irony of everything you wrote is inescapable.

Again, please stop being so selfish. It's not hard! Just think about other people. It's easy. My taxes shouldn't support your idiocy. End of story.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DDOT wants to charge $8 an hour to park on the street. They also think people should have to feed the meter 24 hours a day. They're going to charge these sky high rates in what they call the "New Greater U Street Performance Parking Zone" but if you look at the map, it covers a large chunk of NW. Likely only a matter of time before they expand this to other neighborhoods.

The Greater U Street Performance Parking Zone centers on the U Street NW Corridor and extends across a significant area in NW, Washington. In the southeast quadrant, the zone starts at the intersection of Florida Avenue NW and S Street NW and extends to Georgia Avenue NE and 17th Street NW. In the southwest quadrant, the zone runs from 17th Street NW heading east along U Street NW, then south down 14th Street and back to Florida Avenue NW via S Street NW. Parking rates vary between $3/hour and $8/hour throughout the zone. Rates change at three intervals throughout the day: 10am, 6pm, and 3am.

https://www.parkdc.com/pages/meters#performance_parking

Discouraging people from going to U Street for dining and entertainment seems like the exactly opposite of what U Street needs right now.

It's not discouraging people from going to U Street. It's simply discouraging people who drive to U Street from parking on the street for hours and hours. If anything, it will encourage people who drive to U Street, because street parking spaces will be more available.

People will just not go to U street at all if they don’t live in walking distance and are not close to public transit. I literally will never visit a DC restaurant or Bar again if this happens does. It’s not convenient to take public transit and it more than doubles my travel time to get to DC. If they make it difficult to park and start charging $8 an hour for parking I will avoid visiting DC entirely. This is a very poorly thought out plan that will kill DC businesses. Private parking garages will also raise their rates substantially if DC charges $8 per hour. A private parking garage in this zone could effectively charge $70 per day and still be cheaper than street parking rates.

There will never be enough parking for you bridge and tunnel people, so thanks for staying away. We literally don't need you. Stay in Virginia, please.

The economic illiteracy on this thread is astounding. There aren't enough people in Washington DC to support all the bars and restaurants. Half of them would close without the "bridge and tunnel people."

+1

Plus: for decades, DC policymakers have been too stupid to bother capitalizing on one of their major sources of funding:

- tourism


Yet again, DC will shoot itself in the foot. Our local government is an incompetent, single-party, disgrace.