DDOT wants to charge $8/hr for street parking, require payment 24 hours/day

[Anonymous]

If you're a garage owner, and you could fill your garage at $8/hour, why would you charge less?

The city owns a bunch of parking spaces; if they can fill them at $8/hour, why should they charge less?

(I don't know if $8 is the right amount. If they charge $8 and there are bunches of spots unused, then they should lower the price.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you're a garage owner, and you could fill your garage at $8/hour, why would you charge less?

The city owns a bunch of parking spaces; if they can fill them at $8/hour, why should they charge less?

(I don't know if $8 is the right amount. If they charge $8 and there are bunches of spots unused, then they should lower the price.)

Is the DC government a business now?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:1) It's a relatively tiny area of NW.
2) The $8/hour is only from 6pm-3am (ie, nightlife time)
3) The purpose is to encourage street parking spots to turn over frequently, which I am all for.

Street parking should be expensive and, in high demand zones, it should primarily serve people who want to park for an hour or less. If you're coming for a night out? Find a garage.

So we're going to require people who are getting completely hammered in bars to move their car frequently because they will be worried about the meter, and then they will have to drive around for 45 minutes (while inebriated) looking for a new parking spot. What could possibly go wrong?

Yeah, that's what we are going to *require.*

(No, the game is actually to incentivize people to park in a garage or take an uber. Which they largely will, if the price is comparable.)

Sounds like you've never taken an Uber on a Saturday night. The price is not comparable!

So DC should actually charge more? Ok.

Yes! Charge more! We can do to the bar scene what we did to the restaurant scene! (Does anyone still go to restaurants?). Seriously, you can charge more but then don't complain when people stop going to U Street. There are lots of other bars in other places, including Maryland and Virginia, where everything is not a giant pain in the ass.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're a garage owner, and you could fill your garage at $8/hour, why would you charge less?

The city owns a bunch of parking spaces; if they can fill them at $8/hour, why should they charge less?

(I don't know if $8 is the right amount. If they charge $8 and there are bunches of spots unused, then they should lower the price.)

Is the DC government a business now?

You're not answering the PP's question.

"The city owns a bunch of parking spaces; if they can fill them at $8/hour, why should they charge less?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1) It's a relatively tiny area of NW.
2) The $8/hour is only from 6pm-3am (ie, nightlife time)
3) The purpose is to encourage street parking spots to turn over frequently, which I am all for.

Street parking should be expensive and, in high demand zones, it should primarily serve people who want to park for an hour or less. If you're coming for a night out? Find a garage.

So we're going to require people who are getting completely hammered in bars to move their car frequently because they will be worried about the meter, and then they will have to drive around for 45 minutes (while inebriated) looking for a new parking spot. What could possibly go wrong?

Yeah, that's what we are going to *require.*

(No, the game is actually to incentivize people to park in a garage or take an uber. Which they largely will, if the price is comparable.)

Sounds like you've never taken an Uber on a Saturday night. The price is not comparable!

So DC should actually charge more? Ok.

Yes! Charge more! We can do to the bar scene what we did to the restaurant scene! (Does anyone still go to restaurants?). Seriously, you can charge more but then don't complain when people stop going to U Street. There are lots of other bars in other places, including Maryland and Virginia, where everything is not a giant pain in the ass.

If people stop driving to U Street to get drunk and then drive home drunk, I think DC will be better off, on net. However, I am not a DC resident, so I will let DC residents and DC government make that decision.

If you are driving to U Street to get drunk and then drive home drunk, you should stop doing that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're a garage owner, and you could fill your garage at $8/hour, why would you charge less?

The city owns a bunch of parking spaces; if they can fill them at $8/hour, why should they charge less?

(I don't know if $8 is the right amount. If they charge $8 and there are bunches of spots unused, then they should lower the price.)

Is the DC government a business now?

You're not answering the PP's question.

"The city owns a bunch of parking spaces; if they can fill them at $8/hour, why should they charge less?"

The city could also charge people $10,000 a month for running water. Should they do that too?

[Anonymous]

Stop driving to U Street to go out for the night!! Take public transportation there and uber/taxi home (or bus). Makes everything safer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:1) It's a relatively tiny area of NW.
2) The $8/hour is only from 6pm-3am (ie, nightlife time)
3) The purpose is to encourage street parking spots to turn over frequently, which I am all for.

Street parking should be expensive and, in high demand zones, it should primarily serve people who want to park for an hour or less. If you're coming for a night out? Find a garage.

What are you doing on U for street for only 45 minutes at night.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're a garage owner, and you could fill your garage at $8/hour, why would you charge less?

The city owns a bunch of parking spaces; if they can fill them at $8/hour, why should they charge less?

(I don't know if $8 is the right amount. If they charge $8 and there are bunches of spots unused, then they should lower the price.)

Is the DC government a business now?

You're not answering the PP's question.

"The city owns a bunch of parking spaces; if they can fill them at $8/hour, why should they charge less?"

The city could also charge people $10,000 a month for running water. Should they do that too?

Everybody uses water. There's no point in charging more for it.
Parking hoarders are privatizing a scares resource for themselves, and so should pay more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're a garage owner, and you could fill your garage at $8/hour, why would you charge less?

The city owns a bunch of parking spaces; if they can fill them at $8/hour, why should they charge less?

(I don't know if $8 is the right amount. If they charge $8 and there are bunches of spots unused, then they should lower the price.)

Is the DC government a business now?

You're not answering the PP's question.

"The city owns a bunch of parking spaces; if they can fill them at $8/hour, why should they charge less?"

The city could also charge people $10,000 a month for running water. Should they do that too?

You're still not answering the PP's question. I will point out, also, that $10,000/month is surely not the market price for running water for a household in DC, and that access to running water is really not comparable to cheap street parking for bars.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1) It's a relatively tiny area of NW.
2) The $8/hour is only from 6pm-3am (ie, nightlife time)
3) The purpose is to encourage street parking spots to turn over frequently, which I am all for.

Street parking should be expensive and, in high demand zones, it should primarily serve people who want to park for an hour or less. If you're coming for a night out? Find a garage.

So we're going to require people who are getting completely hammered in bars to move their car frequently because they will be worried about the meter, and then they will have to drive around for 45 minutes (while inebriated) looking for a new parking spot. What could possibly go wrong?

Put police officers on those streets, and hand out $300 citations to all the drunkards getting in their cars, and then call a tow truck to impound the car.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're a garage owner, and you could fill your garage at $8/hour, why would you charge less?

The city owns a bunch of parking spaces; if they can fill them at $8/hour, why should they charge less?

(I don't know if $8 is the right amount. If they charge $8 and there are bunches of spots unused, then they should lower the price.)

Is the DC government a business now?

You're not answering the PP's question.

"The city owns a bunch of parking spaces; if they can fill them at $8/hour, why should they charge less?"

The city could also charge people $10,000 a month for running water. Should they do that too?

You're still not answering the PP's question. I will point out, also, that $10,000/month is surely not the market price for running water for a household in DC, and that access to running water is really not comparable to cheap street parking for bars.

If the government is going to get into the business of charging market rates for everything, you are going to be in for some serious sticker shock, my friend. Much of what the government does is things that businesses cannot do at a rate people could afford.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1) It's a relatively tiny area of NW.
2) The $8/hour is only from 6pm-3am (ie, nightlife time)
3) The purpose is to encourage street parking spots to turn over frequently, which I am all for.

Street parking should be expensive and, in high demand zones, it should primarily serve people who want to park for an hour or less. If you're coming for a night out? Find a garage.

So we're going to require people who are getting completely hammered in bars to move their car frequently because they will be worried about the meter, and then they will have to drive around for 45 minutes (while inebriated) looking for a new parking spot. What could possibly go wrong?

Put police officers on those streets, and hand out $300 citations to all the drunkards getting in their cars, and then call a tow truck to impound the car.

Welcome to DC. You're soon see that the government loves to come up with endless rules but hates enforcing them. They're like Schrodinger's laws. We simultaneously have lots of rules and no rules whatsoever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're a garage owner, and you could fill your garage at $8/hour, why would you charge less?

The city owns a bunch of parking spaces; if they can fill them at $8/hour, why should they charge less?

(I don't know if $8 is the right amount. If they charge $8 and there are bunches of spots unused, then they should lower the price.)

Is the DC government a business now?

You're not answering the PP's question.

"The city owns a bunch of parking spaces; if they can fill them at $8/hour, why should they charge less?"

The city could also charge people $10,000 a month for running water. Should they do that too?

You're still not answering the PP's question. I will point out, also, that $10,000/month is surely not the market price for running water for a household in DC, and that access to running water is really not comparable to cheap street parking for bars.

If the government is going to get into the business of charging market rates for everything, you are going to be in for some serious sticker shock, my friend. Much of what the government does is things that businesses cannot do at a rate people could afford.

Keeping in mind that the topic is street parking for bars. Why should DC charge below-market prices for street parking for bars?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DDOT wants to charge $8 an hour to park on the street. They also think people should have to feed the meter 24 hours a day. They're going to charge these sky high rates in what they call the "New Greater U Street Performance Parking Zone" but if you look at the map, it covers a large chunk of NW. Likely only a matter of time before they expand this to other neighborhoods.

The Greater U Street Performance Parking Zone centers on the U Street NW Corridor and extends across a significant area in NW, Washington. In the southeast quadrant, the zone starts at the intersection of Florida Avenue NW and S Street NW and extends to Georgia Avenue NE and 17th Street NW. In the southwest quadrant, the zone runs from 17th Street NW heading east along U Street NW, then south down 14th Street and back to Florida Avenue NW via S Street NW. Parking rates vary between $3/hour and $8/hour throughout the zone. Rates change at three intervals throughout the day: 10am, 6pm, and 3am.

https://www.parkdc.com/pages/meters#performance_parking

I don't think they expect people to feed meters, but rather use an app.

Why should parking on public space be free? A lot of people don't own cars and are thus subsidizing the free parking for people who do. How is that fair?