Convince that there are young men who believe in women’s rights

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No one cares about you cat lady daughter. She's free to move to another country if she doesn't like it here.

College probably indoctrinated her that she's a permanent victim of oppression unless she doesn't get her way 100% of the time.

+1. If she has a modicum of sense, OP, and if you don't want to lose her to the cat cult, you might work instead on convincing her to question her own current set of values, no doubt the result of 4 years of brainwashing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My 25 yr old daughter, who just moved to new city with a new job, has lost her faith in men. After America chose a misogynistic rapist to lead our country, she believes there are no men worth dating. She’s scared for her future and wants nothing to do with men. I am trying to convince her that there are supportive kind men out there (including her own father). Can you share examples of young men fighting for women’s rights?

Sounds like your daughter needs a good political detox. She sounds insane. At this point, she doesn’t need to worry because nobody is going to date her anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are a gazillion men that voted for Harris. And for those that didn't, at that age point - 25 and presumably college educated - they are unlikely to be hardcore Trumpers. More likely, is that they are "libertarian" or "pox on both houses" or non-voters entirely. I 100 percent agree to avoid any enthusiastic 25 year old Trump supporters. But among college educated young men, Trump enthusiasm is not typically a thing. But what is real is that there is a majority of young men that do feel disconnected from today's Democratic Party - hispanics, asians, whites, black men, working class, middle class, straight. And it's not at all access to reproductive care for women that's driving it. It's the rest of it. They've been told they are the enemy by progressives their entire lives. So they don't identify with the Democratic Party today.

This +100. My college educated 20-25 yr old DS voted for Trump.
I brought him up well to respect women, hold doors open for them...let them leave an elevator ahead of him. He may not be perfect, but he is a gentleman. But what PP said above is 100% truth. Many women appreciate the gentleman's "southern hospitality"....his current girlfriend included. He is pro-choice...but this election was about so much more than that.

If OP's daughter is a radical feminist, then no...she isn't going to do well with someone like my DS. She needs to find someone willing to put up with radical feminism. Which is definitely a thing and has turned off many men of all races. Just like women don't want the extreme machismo men who expect a woman to be pregnant and barefoot in the kitchen...men also don't want the extreme radical feminists who go to the opposite extreme. Most young men, including my DS, simply want to find someone who is willing to meet them in the middle.

The Democratic Party is where all the radical feminists are and that's fine - you do you. But don't criticize young men for wanting a more traditional relationship, for choosing to open doors for ladies. FWIW - my DS cooks and cleans (not always the best tasting or the cleanest though lol), knows to respect women and wants what most young men want...a good job and a wife and family some day.

If OP's daughter is so distraught she should understand that picking a date simply based on who they voted for is ridiculous. Period.

It's fine. Period. Date who you want to date.

[Anonymous]

Tell her to take a social media detox and go outside

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would question if your daughter is ready for a relationship.
If your daughter (or son) cannot:
Have difficult communication and conversations with out defensiveness or judgement
Have respect for another’s feeling needs and boundaries
Be willing to flexibility adjust needs and desires to find a solution that works for both partners
Have mutual respect, and a willingness to give and take, ensuring that neither person feels like they are constantly sacrificing their needs for the other
IE- understand that her/his partner is an entirely separate being and that it is not always one’s own way. Not my way, not my partners way but many times it’s the third way that wins.
There are very few reasons that a couple is so different it will never work. Politics is NOT one of them.
Go read Gottman.

I see what you're trying to say but there are some issues where there really is just not much middle ground. I don't really want to date a person that thinks I'm a murderer or that I am fine with murderers. Sorry.

Not sure why you say this. Can you explain?
How is there no middle ground? Who is a murderer and why? Are you saying you are pro choice and would never date anyone who does not believe exactly like you do regarding abortion?

Is an abortion killing a baby??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are a gazillion men that voted for Harris. And for those that didn't, at that age point - 25 and presumably college educated - they are unlikely to be hardcore Trumpers. More likely, is that they are "libertarian" or "pox on both houses" or non-voters entirely. I 100 percent agree to avoid any enthusiastic 25 year old Trump supporters. But among college educated young men, Trump enthusiasm is not typically a thing. But what is real is that there is a majority of young men that do feel disconnected from today's Democratic Party - hispanics, asians, whites, black men, working class, middle class, straight. And it's not at all access to reproductive care for women that's driving it. It's the rest of it. They've been told they are the enemy by progressives their entire lives. So they don't identify with the Democratic Party today.

This +100. My college educated 20-25 yr old DS voted for Trump.
I brought him up well to respect women, hold doors open for them...let them leave an elevator ahead of him. He may not be perfect, but he is a gentleman. But what PP said above is 100% truth. Many women appreciate the gentleman's "southern hospitality"....his current girlfriend included. He is pro-choice...but this election was about so much more than that.

If OP's daughter is a radical feminist, then no...she isn't going to do well with someone like my DS. She needs to find someone willing to put up with radical feminism. Which is definitely a thing and has turned off many men of all races. Just like women don't want the extreme machismo men who expect a woman to be pregnant and barefoot in the kitchen...men also don't want the extreme radical feminists who go to the opposite extreme. Most young men, including my DS, simply want to find someone who is willing to meet them in the middle.

The Democratic Party is where all the radical feminists are and that's fine - you do you. But don't criticize young men for wanting a more traditional relationship, for choosing to open doors for ladies. FWIW - my DS cooks and cleans (not always the best tasting or the cleanest though lol), knows to respect women and wants what most young men want...a good job and a wife and family some day.

If OP's daughter is so distraught she should understand that picking a date simply based on who they voted for is ridiculous. Period.

I chuckled. Your son sounds great! Good job, Mom and Dad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would question if your daughter is ready for a relationship.
If your daughter (or son) cannot:
Have difficult communication and conversations with out defensiveness or judgement
Have respect for another’s feeling needs and boundaries
Be willing to flexibility adjust needs and desires to find a solution that works for both partners
Have mutual respect, and a willingness to give and take, ensuring that neither person feels like they are constantly sacrificing their needs for the other
IE- understand that her/his partner is an entirely separate being and that it is not always one’s own way. Not my way, not my partners way but many times it’s the third way that wins.
There are very few reasons that a couple is so different it will never work. Politics is NOT one of them.
Go read Gottman.

I see what you're trying to say but there are some issues where there really is just not much middle ground. I don't really want to date a person that thinks I'm a murderer or that I am fine with murderers. Sorry.

Not sure why you say this. Can you explain?
How is there no middle ground? Who is a murderer and why? Are you saying you are pro choice and would never date anyone who does not believe exactly like you do regarding abortion?

I can explain. Is an abortion killing a baby? The answer to that question is important.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No one cares about you cat lady daughter. She's free to move to another country if she doesn't like it here.

College probably indoctrinated her that she's a permanent victim of oppression unless she doesn't get her way 100% of the time.

+1. Maybe your daughter should join the 4B movement

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one cares about you cat lady daughter. She's free to move to another country if she doesn't like it here.

College probably indoctrinated her that she's a permanent victim of oppression unless she doesn't get her way 100% of the time.

+1. Maybe your daughter should join the 4B movement

Nah.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are a gazillion men that voted for Harris. And for those that didn't, at that age point - 25 and presumably college educated - they are unlikely to be hardcore Trumpers. More likely, is that they are "libertarian" or "pox on both houses" or non-voters entirely. I 100 percent agree to avoid any enthusiastic 25 year old Trump supporters. But among college educated young men, Trump enthusiasm is not typically a thing. But what is real is that there is a majority of young men that do feel disconnected from today's Democratic Party - hispanics, asians, whites, black men, working class, middle class, straight. And it's not at all access to reproductive care for women that's driving it. It's the rest of it. They've been told they are the enemy by progressives their entire lives. So they don't identify with the Democratic Party today.

This +100. My college educated 20-25 yr old DS voted for Trump.
I brought him up well to respect women, hold doors open for them...let them leave an elevator ahead of him. He may not be perfect, but he is a gentleman. But what PP said above is 100% truth. Many women appreciate the gentleman's "southern hospitality"....his current girlfriend included. He is pro-choice...but this election was about so much more than that.

If OP's daughter is a radical feminist, then no...she isn't going to do well with someone like my DS. She needs to find someone willing to put up with radical feminism. Which is definitely a thing and has turned off many men of all races. Just like women don't want the extreme machismo men who expect a woman to be pregnant and barefoot in the kitchen...men also don't want the extreme radical feminists who go to the opposite extreme. Most young men, including my DS, simply want to find someone who is willing to meet them in the middle.

The Democratic Party is where all the radical feminists are and that's fine - you do you. But don't criticize young men for wanting a more traditional relationship, for choosing to open doors for ladies. FWIW - my DS cooks and cleans (not always the best tasting or the cleanest though lol), knows to respect women and wants what most young men want...a good job and a wife and family some day.

If OP's daughter is so distraught she should understand that picking a date simply based on who they voted for is ridiculous. Period.

This post sounds like it came from the 1950s. Can you please define what you mean by “radical feminism” and why OP’s daughter is “radical” because she wants date a man who believes women should have rights? I don’t think OP even used the word abortion btw. Let me guess, you can’t wait to put Project 25 into play and put women back in their place.

[Anonymous]

My 18 year old son voted for Trump because he was outraged that his legal immigrant grandfather receives $350x4 per month for social security after working hard for 30 years in this country. 350 per week is how much the migrants are getting on debit cards in NYC for having broken the law. The absurdity of it all is enough to enrage people. I wish we had the ability to prioritize womens rights, but sadly these issues are more pressing. Solve them and we will vote for women's rights in the future.

[Anonymous]

Your daughter is right, she has potential and will be rewarded if she focus on her career at this point.
I married young at 25 and while my family is wonderful, they held me back in life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:women’s right should address: lack of federal paid parental leave, maternal mortality, expensive daycare, etc.

Instead, The discussion is centered around aborting children, so that women are free to be treated as objects by men.

Exactly.

My idea of equal rights: equal pay for same work performed.
Harris’ equal rights: free abortion.

At least she could have offered: sterilize white men age 14-84 🤷‍♀️

[Anonymous]

Eye opening to see most posters have not helped answer OP’s question. Rather, calling OP a cat lady and saying no one cares about the daughter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Eye opening to see most posters have not helped answer OP’s question. Rather, calling OP a cat lady and saying no one cares about the daughter.

It’s a stupid question. How are women fighting for women’s rights. By voting? If that’s all it takes I’m sure OPs daughter can find some like minded men who voted the same way. But it sounds like the real issue is OPs daughter is new and not doing well on the dating scene and it may not be because of politics.