Convince that there are young men who believe in women’s rights

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My 25 yr old daughter, who just moved to new city with a new job, has lost her faith in men. After America chose a misogynistic rapist to lead our country, she believes there are no men worth dating. She’s scared for her future and wants nothing to do with men. I am trying to convince her that there are supportive kind men out there (including her own father). Can you share examples of young men fighting for women’s rights?


No one cares. Let her die lonley.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Dems had four years to render the abortion issue about 85 percent moot. With Trump having stacked scotus, BidenHarris could simply have directed fda to promote miso in its one fda use as a gi bleed with nsaid use given that population can’t get opiates anymore. They didn’t. It wasn’t that important, I guess.


Okay but the poster doesn't want to date a trump voter. That's fine.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I would question if your daughter is ready for a relationship.
If your daughter (or son) cannot:
Have difficult communication and conversations with out defensiveness or judgement
Have respect for another’s feeling needs and boundaries
Be willing to flexibility adjust needs and desires to find a solution that works for both partners
Have mutual respect, and a willingness to give and take, ensuring that neither person feels like they are constantly sacrificing their needs for the other
IE- understand that her/his partner is an entirely separate being and that it is not always one’s own way. Not my way, not my partners way but many times it’s the third way that wins.
There are very few reasons that a couple is so different it will never work. Politics is NOT one of them.
Go read Gottman.


This PP is out his or her mind. And women’s rights is far more than just your everyday politics
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dems had four years to render the abortion issue about 85 percent moot. With Trump having stacked scotus, BidenHarris could simply have directed fda to promote miso in its one fda use as a gi bleed with nsaid use given that population can’t get opiates anymore. They didn’t. It wasn’t that important, I guess.


Okay but the poster doesn't want to date a trump voter. That's fine.


And so what? Why would a trumper want to date a Harris voter anyway?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would question if your daughter is ready for a relationship.
If your daughter (or son) cannot:
Have difficult communication and conversations with out defensiveness or judgement
Have respect for another’s feeling needs and boundaries
Be willing to flexibility adjust needs and desires to find a solution that works for both partners
Have mutual respect, and a willingness to give and take, ensuring that neither person feels like they are constantly sacrificing their needs for the other
IE- understand that her/his partner is an entirely separate being and that it is not always one’s own way. Not my way, not my partners way but many times it’s the third way that wins.
There are very few reasons that a couple is so different it will never work. Politics is NOT one of them.
Go read Gottman.


I see what you're trying to say but there are some issues where there really is just not much middle ground. I don't really want to date a person that thinks I'm a murderer or that I am fine with murderers. Sorry.


Yes. This is not a complicated issue to really understand.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would question if your daughter is ready for a relationship.
If your daughter (or son) cannot:
Have difficult communication and conversations with out defensiveness or judgement
Have respect for another’s feeling needs and boundaries
Be willing to flexibility adjust needs and desires to find a solution that works for both partners
Have mutual respect, and a willingness to give and take, ensuring that neither person feels like they are constantly sacrificing their needs for the other
IE- understand that her/his partner is an entirely separate being and that it is not always one’s own way. Not my way, not my partners way but many times it’s the third way that wins.
There are very few reasons that a couple is so different it will never work. Politics is NOT one of them.
Go read Gottman.


This PP is out his or her mind. And women’s rights is far more than just your everyday politics


Can you clear this up for me? Are you speaking of women’s rights in general, or are you speaking about abortion rights in particular?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would question if your daughter is ready for a relationship.
If your daughter (or son) cannot:
Have difficult communication and conversations with out defensiveness or judgement
Have respect for another’s feeling needs and boundaries
Be willing to flexibility adjust needs and desires to find a solution that works for both partners
Have mutual respect, and a willingness to give and take, ensuring that neither person feels like they are constantly sacrificing their needs for the other
IE- understand that her/his partner is an entirely separate being and that it is not always one’s own way. Not my way, not my partners way but many times it’s the third way that wins.
There are very few reasons that a couple is so different it will never work. Politics is NOT one of them.
Go read Gottman.


I see what you're trying to say but there are some issues where there really is just not much middle ground. I don't really want to date a person that thinks I'm a murderer or that I am fine with murderers. Sorry.


Not sure why you say this. Can you explain?
How is there no middle ground? Who is a murderer and why? Are you saying you are pro choice and would never date anyone who does not believe exactly like you do regarding abortion?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would question if your daughter is ready for a relationship.
If your daughter (or son) cannot:
Have difficult communication and conversations with out defensiveness or judgement
Have respect for another’s feeling needs and boundaries
Be willing to flexibility adjust needs and desires to find a solution that works for both partners
Have mutual respect, and a willingness to give and take, ensuring that neither person feels like they are constantly sacrificing their needs for the other
IE- understand that her/his partner is an entirely separate being and that it is not always one’s own way. Not my way, not my partners way but many times it’s the third way that wins.
There are very few reasons that a couple is so different it will never work. Politics is NOT one of them.
Go read Gottman.


This PP is out his or her mind. And women’s rights is far more than just your everyday politics


Can you clear this up for me? Are you speaking of women’s rights in general, or are you speaking about abortion rights in particular?


We are talking about a young single woman in her twenties. She would prefer not to date someone that voted for Donald Trump. This is not difficult to understand.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Islam is right.


About what?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would question if your daughter is ready for a relationship.
If your daughter (or son) cannot:
Have difficult communication and conversations with out defensiveness or judgement
Have respect for another’s feeling needs and boundaries
Be willing to flexibility adjust needs and desires to find a solution that works for both partners
Have mutual respect, and a willingness to give and take, ensuring that neither person feels like they are constantly sacrificing their needs for the other
IE- understand that her/his partner is an entirely separate being and that it is not always one’s own way. Not my way, not my partners way but many times it’s the third way that wins.
There are very few reasons that a couple is so different it will never work. Politics is NOT one of them.
Go read Gottman.


This PP is out his or her mind. And women’s rights is far more than just your everyday politics


Can you clear this up for me? Are you speaking of women’s rights in general, or are you speaking about abortion rights in particular?


Abortion fanatics are so insultingly reductive about what "women's rights" means.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My 25 yr old daughter, who just moved to new city with a new job, has lost her faith in men. After America chose a misogynistic rapist to lead our country, she believes there are no men worth dating. She’s scared for her future and wants nothing to do with men. I am trying to convince her that there are supportive kind men out there (including her own father). Can you share examples of young men fighting for women’s rights?


Yes. They are in the US military and are either fighting for or willing to fight for the rights of women as well as men. However, your daughter is not worthy of them.


What? Whoa. Did you actually just say that?


DP. Somebody needs to say it. The man-hating women need to get over themselves and stop reducing women to just their uteruses.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My 25 yr old daughter, who just moved to new city with a new job, has lost her faith in men. After America chose a misogynistic rapist to lead our country, she believes there are no men worth dating. She’s scared for her future and wants nothing to do with men. I am trying to convince her that there are supportive kind men out there (including her own father). Can you share examples of young men fighting for women’s rights?


I brought my two sons up to respect women and to never give into peer pressure. Both are kind and generous and behave like the gentlemen, as do their friends, around me and I hope this behavior carries through in every aspect of their life.

Anonymous
Has your daughter never heard of the US military?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would question if your daughter is ready for a relationship.
If your daughter (or son) cannot:
Have difficult communication and conversations with out defensiveness or judgement
Have respect for another’s feeling needs and boundaries
Be willing to flexibility adjust needs and desires to find a solution that works for both partners
Have mutual respect, and a willingness to give and take, ensuring that neither person feels like they are constantly sacrificing their needs for the other
IE- understand that her/his partner is an entirely separate being and that it is not always one’s own way. Not my way, not my partners way but many times it’s the third way that wins.
There are very few reasons that a couple is so different it will never work. Politics is NOT one of them.
Go read Gottman.


I see what you're trying to say but there are some issues where there really is just not much middle ground. I don't really want to date a person that thinks I'm a murderer or that I am fine with murderers. Sorry.


Not sure why you say this. Can you explain?
How is there no middle ground? Who is a murderer and why? Are you saying you are pro choice and would never date anyone who does not believe exactly like you do regarding abortion?

I might need a little help from you on this one. Are you pro-choice? If you are not not pro-choice, why not?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There are a gazillion men that voted for Harris. And for those that didn't, at that age point - 25 and presumably college educated - they are unlikely to be hardcore Trumpers. More likely, is that they are "libertarian" or "pox on both houses" or non-voters entirely. I 100 percent agree to avoid any enthusiastic 25 year old Trump supporters. But among college educated young men, Trump enthusiasm is not typically a thing. But what is real is that there is a majority of young men that do feel disconnected from today's Democratic Party - hispanics, asians, whites, black men, working class, middle class, straight. And it's not at all access to reproductive care for women that's driving it. It's the rest of it. They've been told they are the enemy by progressives their entire lives. So they don't identify with the Democratic Party today.


This +100. My college educated 20-25 yr old DS voted for Trump.
I brought him up well to respect women, hold doors open for them...let them leave an elevator ahead of him. He may not be perfect, but he is a gentleman. But what PP said above is 100% truth. Many women appreciate the gentleman's "southern hospitality"....his current girlfriend included. He is pro-choice...but this election was about so much more than that.

If OP's daughter is a radical feminist, then no...she isn't going to do well with someone like my DS. She needs to find someone willing to put up with radical feminism. Which is definitely a thing and has turned off many men of all races. Just like women don't want the extreme machismo men who expect a woman to be pregnant and barefoot in the kitchen...men also don't want the extreme radical feminists who go to the opposite extreme. Most young men, including my DS, simply want to find someone who is willing to meet them in the middle.

The Democratic Party is where all the radical feminists are and that's fine - you do you. But don't criticize young men for wanting a more traditional relationship, for choosing to open doors for ladies. FWIW - my DS cooks and cleans (not always the best tasting or the cleanest though lol), knows to respect women and wants what most young men want...a good job and a wife and family some day.

If OP's daughter is so distraught she should understand that picking a date simply based on who they voted for is ridiculous. Period.
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