Two child homicides in Cleveland Park/Van Ness apartment buildings in eight days

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how a fall could leave to cardiac arrest...


It doesn’t.


Read any of the news articles. The father beat the child to death. He told 911 the child "fell." Now he is out already. Hopefully to be re-arrested soon.

RIP little guy.


It sounds like he was running away from the dad and hit the wall?


It seems unlikely that a five year old could run hard enough into a wall that he would die. It seems more likely that the person who punched him hard would lie about what happened.
Anonymous
So sad for this poor baby and his sisters. And so many other kids in our community who are living in similar abusive homes.
Anonymous
Vouchers are never pulled.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/...hronic-homelessness/

At SG, one guy stabbed someone and triggered a SWAT incident. While he was incarcerated, other tenants got a stay away order. His voucher was simply moved up to Forest Hills to The Brandywine.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-polit...41a2ce4d5_story.html Article is from 2019, none of this is new.

Connecticut House has a LOT of visible drug dealing and violence in and around the building. It's my understanding that many voucher tenants have moved out due to safety concerns.

Big buildings up and down Connecticut and Wisconsin but even rented condo units and small garden style apts in Palisades and Glover Park have more and more vouchers, and they were converted at some point from 1 year to PSH, permanent supportive housing, with preference given to addicts, the mentally ill and felons "returning citizens." DC pays well over market rate for vouchers and that has led to a lot of big and small landlords targeting the income stream.


This is largely a myth. Most landlords do NOT want this income stream because the overall costs to the property in terms of damage to units, loss of market rate tenants, danger to building staff, and increased security costs outweigh the income security from the government paying the rent. And, to add insult to injury, the AG's "nuisance" approach is to try to slough off the myriad failures of DC's progressive laws onto the private landlords. Under DC law, the landlords can't screen for tenants, can't limit the number of voucher holders, and can't evict the drug dealers and the violent. But instead of calling on the DC Council to reform the laws that tie the landlords' hands, the DC AG just wants to pile additional costs onto the landlords for permitting their properties to be "nuisances". DC landlords would be thrilled to get rid of the dangerous and criminal tenants and keep their buildings secure. But the politicians don't want to help make that happen.
Anonymous
I was on grand jury late last year which wrapped up this summer. It’s astounding how many defendants were repeat offenders who nonetheless committed additional crimes while pending trials or some other court proceedings. When will this stop. DC is a joke all the way around.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Why does an able-bodied 32 year old need a voucher? Why wasn’t his voucher revoked once he behaved violently? The DC government was basically enabling this criminal and monster to carry on without any consequences to his behavior.


I'm sure he's on social security disability for addiction issues or mental health. The voucher extends from that. it's life long --you never lose the voucher in DC. They are good.


You can't get SSI or SSDI for addiction. PTSD, intellectual disability, psychosis, tbi, etc...but not substance use..in fact drug addiction and alcoholism, if material, can disqualify someone from disability benefits. Obviously not the main point here but didn't want false information to percolate unchecked.


Strange that the poor child was listed as a Maryland resident.


2 separate dead kids, sadly.

1 a baby girl from MD killed in Cleveland Park apt she was visiting. Believe this was in Sedgewick Gardens but not certain.

1 a 5 yr old boy killed in Wakefield/Van Ness at Connecticut House, where he lived.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how a fall could leave to cardiac arrest...


It doesn’t.


Read any of the news articles. The father beat the child to death. He told 911 the child "fell." Now he is out already. Hopefully to be re-arrested soon.

RIP little guy.


It sounds like he was running away from the dad and hit the wall?


It seems unlikely that a five year old could run hard enough into a wall that he would die. It seems more likely that the person who punched him hard would lie about what happened.


This.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe, just maybe the City shouldn’t approve marijuana dispensaries along Connecticut Ave?


Hell no they shouldn't! That would be a disaster.


They just approved them. Right next to the UDC campus. Can’t make this stuff up.


Why? WTF?


Where the old Wells Fargo used to be. It's something Van Ness Main Street has been eager for for years. SMH.


You cannot be serious. Like the #1 complaint I the nuisance buildings is marijuana smoke. JFC.


There was a hearing a few years ago about putting one where Pills Plus is. Pills Plus had a valid lease so no idea why ANC meeting about it took place. Members of VN MS spoke and clearly supported finding another location as did several ANC (some of who are still serving, others who have left). Here we are. One is opening where Wells Fargo used to be by the Potbelly.
Anonymous
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Vouchers are never pulled.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/...hronic-homelessness/

At SG, one guy stabbed someone and triggered a SWAT incident. While he was incarcerated, other tenants got a stay away order. His voucher was simply moved up to Forest Hills to The Brandywine.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-polit...41a2ce4d5_story.html Article is from 2019, none of this is new.

Connecticut House has a LOT of visible drug dealing and violence in and around the building. It's my understanding that many voucher tenants have moved out due to safety concerns.

Big buildings up and down Connecticut and Wisconsin but even rented condo units and small garden style apts in Palisades and Glover Park have more and more vouchers, and they were converted at some point from 1 year to PSH, permanent supportive housing, with preference given to addicts, the mentally ill and felons "returning citizens." DC pays well over market rate for vouchers and that has led to a lot of big and small landlords targeting the income stream.


This is largely a myth. Most landlords do NOT want this income stream because the overall costs to the property in terms of damage to units, loss of market rate tenants, danger to building staff, and increased security costs outweigh the income security from the government paying the rent. And, to add insult to injury, the AG's "nuisance" approach is to try to slough off the myriad failures of DC's progressive laws onto the private landlords. Under DC law, the landlords can't screen for tenants, can't limit the number of voucher holders, and can't evict the drug dealers and the violent. But instead of calling on the DC Council to reform the laws that tie the landlords' hands, the DC AG just wants to pile additional costs onto the landlords for permitting their properties to be "nuisances". DC landlords would be thrilled to get rid of the dangerous and criminal tenants and keep their buildings secure. But the politicians don't want to help make that happen.


Some, perhaps. Not all. Payments were at least 1,000+ over market rate in many cases. I know of people who bought condos to rent for this specifically.

Discrimination against voucher holders in renting is illegal and has been prosecuted by DC AGs.

The Council has VASTLY limited what can be considered. Criminal background checks do not go far back and may just include time incarcerated without being able to consider the violent crime itself. There was a convicted murderer who was moved in next to an elderly woman in a building in Chevy Chase DC to the alarm of her family. Convicts and "clients" of the Dept of Behavioral Health are given priority for the vouchers. Buildings can tip very rapidly. People should be very wary of multifamily housing in DC, rentals and condos. And the poor co-op next to Connecticut House has experienced violent crime, break ins and likely a loss in value not to mention the constant sirens and visits to the block by MPD and EMTs, etc.
Anonymous
How competent is the ME in DC? LE had a lot of witness statements, etc. + a dead child. They did their part as did the EMTs who tried to revive the boy.

It seems that Pettus was released based on ME findings and USAO who is especially weak on DV and who did not protest his release on own recognizance.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/court-documents-detail-injuries-5-year-old-child-suffered-hands-father-before-death
Anonymous
The findings re: the baby girl who was beaten to death in Cleveland Park a week earlier.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/maryland-toddlers-death-in-dc-ruled-homicide-by-blunt-force-injuries-mpd/ar-AA1rtPM9?ocid=BingNewsVerp
Anonymous
The little girl was killed at Sedgewick Gardens apartments.

Lots has been written on problems at that building, going back years. It was one of the early buildings to go in heavily with voucher tenants. WP and others have all covered, Anita Bonds held hearings, Cheh was involved, etc. It has only gotten worse and now a toddler lost her life there.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how a fall could leave to cardiac arrest...


It doesn’t.


Read any of the news articles. The father beat the child to death. He told 911 the child "fell." Now he is out already. Hopefully to be re-arrested soon.

RIP little guy.


It sounds like he was running away from the dad and hit the wall?


It seems unlikely that a five year old could run hard enough into a wall that he would die. It seems more likely that the person who punched him hard would lie about what happened.


This.


But ME examiner found no evidence of a punch.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I was on grand jury late last year which wrapped up this summer. It’s astounding how many defendants were repeat offenders who nonetheless committed additional crimes while pending trials or some other court proceedings. When will this stop. DC is a joke all the way around.


+1. I was on a grand jury.a few years ago. A significant number of the crimes were committed by individuals who were either convicted felons or were out on release awaiting trial for another offense. Many also involved possession of illegal guns. It really made me think about how many felons are out walking around or riding Metro in DC every day.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I was on grand jury late last year which wrapped up this summer. It’s astounding how many defendants were repeat offenders who nonetheless committed additional crimes while pending trials or some other court proceedings. When will this stop. DC is a joke all the way around.


+1. I was on a grand jury.a few years ago. A significant number of the crimes were committed by individuals who were either convicted felons or were out on release awaiting trial for another offense. Many also involved possession of illegal guns. It really made me think about how many felons are out walking around or riding Metro in DC every day.


Ward 3 needs to start being more welcoming.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how a fall could leave to cardiac arrest...


It doesn’t.


Read any of the news articles. The father beat the child to death. He told 911 the child "fell." Now he is out already. Hopefully to be re-arrested soon.

RIP little guy.


It sounds like he was running away from the dad and hit the wall?


It seems unlikely that a five year old could run hard enough into a wall that he would die. It seems more likely that the person who punched him hard would lie about what happened.


This.


But ME examiner found no evidence of a punch.


Witness statements said the father regularly punched the boy and father told witness he had done so that morning and that he f’d up because the child stopped breathing and he put him in tub. LE described water as murky, he may have expired there.

I hope the gullible posting here never serve on a jury. Or maybe you know DeAndre.



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