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Anonymous wrote:They basically want to turn the whole DMV into Mexico City. No, I do not mean that in a disparaging ethic way, but they’ll try to jam pack way too many people in a certain area just like Mexico City. And guess what’s happening to MC? The entire city is sinking because infrastructure can’t handle water and sewage demand. The city is going to collapse because there will be no more water.

Maybe, just maybe, not everyone has the god given right to live wherever they want, when they want. You build infrastructure up to a certain level with a limit. You can only sustain a population up to that limit. If you can’t afford to live there due to limit on capacity, then you simply find more affordable, less dense areas to live. The U.S. is massive. I don’t understand why we insist on making certain areas extremely dense when there is huge amounts of room and space elsewhere available that’s already far more affordable. You can live in PA, WV, or OH for much more affordable housing.


You can live in PA or OH if you want a massive SFH with a giant yard. You don’t get to both live close to an urban center and demand other people cannot live there.



There is a capacity limit due to infrastructure, dimwit. You can’t keep packing people into the same area if sewage systems, water infrastructure, schools, etc. can’t handle it. Look at Mexico City for the nightmare that can happen. Spread density out where more infrastructure can be built for a fraction of the cost. You don’t have a god given inherent right to live where you think you should. I deserve $1000/mo rent in Jackson Hole too! Build me my home, now! lol.


wtf does Mexico City have to do with it?? (except to be the classic nonsequitur that NIMBYs love to layer on.)

don’t worry, zoning reform will prevail and we’ll all have a good laugh when only the truly mentally deranged among you are left to chain yourself to the sh*tshack teardown.


Laughing all the way to the sinkholes.


Sigh. Mexico City is built on a lakebed. MoCo is not.

These kinds of spurious arguments detract from dialog surrounding more, um, grounded concerns about the MoCo densification push, such as the lack of guardrails related to infrastructure/schools, the lack of public agency consequent of the non-transparent engagement approach prior to AHS presentation to the County Council, the failure to investigate/evaluate/present alternatives with anything close to the robustness of the AHS, and the moral argument surrounding the relative rights/needs of current residents and prospective residents.


lie down with dogs PP … and spare me the “moral argument.” come on. at its core, you just want to preserve your enclave. there’s nothing moral about it.
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Anonymous wrote:Nimbys are the worst. Seriously. You’re ruining this country.


How is this ruining the country? Because people need to live in areas that comport with their affordability instead of the government trying to get everyone a prize at the expense of current homeowners? No one has a right to live in Arlington. It’s a very nice and expensive place.

I would love a house in Newport Beach. I can’t afford a $8M house so I don’t live there.


because EVERYTHING that is a common good gets opposed by NIMBYs. Preschools, high schools, sidewalks, solar powed, waste treatment plants …


I agree to some extent. All for solar, better infrastructure, etc but eliminating SFH zoning is not needed. There is plenty of room to build up - apts, condos, etc. people here just look down on those types of homes. Everywhere Else in the world, a condo is a fine place to live. Wealthier people live in the larger suburban homes, most live in condos/apts. le


But the choices should not be limited to 1000 sqft condo or 4000 sqft SFH. It would be nice to have more housing in the middle.


So maybe you need to do what the rest of us did and buy a small 1.5 bath colonial fixer-upper or a small 2 bed ranch with an original kitchen and bath? Only the new construction is 4000 sqft for a SFH. And consider existing duplexes and townhomes in South Arlington, also like we did. Put in some sweat equity and make a profit.

But if MM stands, all those existing homes will be torn down to make way for new construction that is unaffordable to anyone in the middle, regardless of sqft. Whether it’s a 4000 sqft SFH or a six-plex, it’s not going to make a real dent in affordability or the regional housing crisis with a cap of 50 per year. It’s just enough to piss off current residents when parking and tree canopy and storm water and school crowding aren’t addressed simultaneously. We need many, many more high rises in the R-B corridor and “National Landing” and there’s lots of office space that is sitting empty that could make an actual dent in housing and affordability and transit access without upsetting the entire SFH resident owner population. Unless, of course, you’re not actually interested in solving these issues.


Thanks for the suggestions but I already have a house in Arlington. But I also am aware that housing in the middle is limited. Any lot suitable for a new build is already bought by a developer, and I’d rather see a duplex be constructed than a hideous McMansion.


I think if they’d just done duplexes there wouldn’t have even been a lawsuit. But the six-plexes approved for 5000 sqft lots was pure stupidity. That means no dedicated space for parking and who wants a dumpster next door when you didn’t buy in an area that ever had dumpsters before or where you suddenly have to fight for street parking? Of course it ended this way. Better to refocus energy on changing rules for lot coverage and make storm water regulations/non-permeable coverage limits so stringent and expensive that it’s not worth it for developers to prevent this McMansion spread and tree destruction.


As a current Arlington homeowner, I don’t want to dumpy duplex next to me either! If I was fine with that, I would have lived in a more populated area of Arlington, not in my nice quiet neighborhood where I am now.


Are you a current Arlington homeowner that has voted for the mass-migration candidates of late? If so, where did you think those people would go?
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Anonymous wrote:They basically want to turn the whole DMV into Mexico City. No, I do not mean that in a disparaging ethic way, but they’ll try to jam pack way too many people in a certain area just like Mexico City. And guess what’s happening to MC? The entire city is sinking because infrastructure can’t handle water and sewage demand. The city is going to collapse because there will be no more water.

Maybe, just maybe, not everyone has the god given right to live wherever they want, when they want. You build infrastructure up to a certain level with a limit. You can only sustain a population up to that limit. If you can’t afford to live there due to limit on capacity, then you simply find more affordable, less dense areas to live. The U.S. is massive. I don’t understand why we insist on making certain areas extremely dense when there is huge amounts of room and space elsewhere available that’s already far more affordable. You can live in PA, WV, or OH for much more affordable housing.


You can live in PA or OH if you want a massive SFH with a giant yard. You don’t get to both live close to an urban center and demand other people cannot live there.



There is a capacity limit due to infrastructure, dimwit. You can’t keep packing people into the same area if sewage systems, water infrastructure, schools, etc. can’t handle it. Look at Mexico City for the nightmare that can happen. Spread density out where more infrastructure can be built for a fraction of the cost. You don’t have a god given inherent right to live where you think you should. I deserve $1000/mo rent in Jackson Hole too! Build me my home, now! lol.


wtf does Mexico City have to do with it?? (except to be the classic nonsequitur that NIMBYs love to layer on.)

don’t worry, zoning reform will prevail and we’ll all have a good laugh when only the truly mentally deranged among you are left to chain yourself to the sh*tshack teardown.


Laughing all the way to the sinkholes.


Sigh. Mexico City is built on a lakebed. MoCo is not.

These kinds of spurious arguments detract from dialog surrounding more, um, grounded concerns about the MoCo densification push, such as the lack of guardrails related to infrastructure/schools, the lack of public agency consequent of the non-transparent engagement approach prior to AHS presentation to the County Council, the failure to investigate/evaluate/present alternatives with anything close to the robustness of the AHS, and the moral argument surrounding the relative rights/needs of current residents and prospective residents.


lie down with dogs PP … and spare me the “moral argument.” come on. at its core, you just want to preserve your enclave. there’s nothing moral about it.


Even if that were true, there isn’t anything immoral about that view, either. These are just opinions, there seems to be a lot more people with opinions opposed to this method than for it.

It’s just a fundamentally bad idea, so come back with good ideas.
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Anonymous wrote:Nimbys are the worst. Seriously. You’re ruining this country.


How is this ruining the country? Because people need to live in areas that comport with their affordability instead of the government trying to get everyone a prize at the expense of current homeowners? No one has a right to live in Arlington. It’s a very nice and expensive place.

I would love a house in Newport Beach. I can’t afford a $8M house so I don’t live there.


because EVERYTHING that is a common good gets opposed by NIMBYs. Preschools, high schools, sidewalks, solar powed, waste treatment plants …


None of this is true for Arlington. There were arguments about the high school, but not because people didn’t want it in their backyard but because they wanted a school that was equivalent to the existing high schools like W-L, Yorktown and Wakefield and the County, per usual, wouldn’t do that. They forced all these other 1/2 a$$ options on people. I’d love to hear about the preschool and solar power that Arlington NIMBYs scrapped. I’ve lived here over twenty years.


lol pathetic defense of blocking the HS. I bet you $10000 the same people who blocked the HS are now whining about not having enough school capacity for growth.


Pathetic defense? You must be a delusional YIMBY renter without kids. Because you would care if your kid was zoned for a high school with a small turf field on the roof and no swimming pool or theater while kids at the other high schools have all of those things. I have no dog in this fight. I am a parent of high school student but I wouldn’t send them to APS. The County and their schools suck.


Catch up. The NIMBYs blocked the a new APS HS (and now whine that the schools are too crowded for more housing.)


It’s almost like you are purposely obtuse. I just explained why it was blocked. It’s YIMBY’s like you who can’t make a coherent argument that got us into this mess.


They are MAGAs whether they realelize it or not.


So true when you consider that the @YIMBY development lobby hires MAGA operatives who also work for Trump.


Please, tell us ALL about your progressive bona fides.


“Smart Growth” operatives who oppose affordable housing when working for Trump but at the same time push dense development that they claim, naturally, will bring “affordable” housing. Whatever cynical nonsense sells the client’s dog food.

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Anonymous wrote:Nimbys are the worst. Seriously. You’re ruining this country.


How is this ruining the country? Because people need to live in areas that comport with their affordability instead of the government trying to get everyone a prize at the expense of current homeowners? No one has a right to live in Arlington. It’s a very nice and expensive place.

I would love a house in Newport Beach. I can’t afford a $8M house so I don’t live there.


because EVERYTHING that is a common good gets opposed by NIMBYs. Preschools, high schools, sidewalks, solar powed, waste treatment plants …


The best thing for the common hood would be for people to understand that if you want something nice in this country you have to sacrifice and work your tail off. In an era of student loan forgiveness, free housing for illegal immigrants, and countless other government giveaways it’s gotten totally out of control.


How does someone sacrifice and “work their tail off” for sidewalks and wind farms? That’s total disingenuous NIMBY bullsh*t. You don’t believe people need to work for themselves - if you did, you’d never try to legally block what they do with *their own property.* What you want is to control what happens to property and public spaces that you *never worked for*. So stfu about “hard work.”


There is a specific, yet to be named type of psychological rage that exists amongst nonprofit workers and humanities degree holders when they reach adulthood and realize they cannot have the same types of things that their peers who went into business, law, STEM, etc. It is sad to
to watch.


That’s a weird projection, considering that you’re mad you couldn’t buy up all your neighbors property.


It’s being bought up by developers who majored in business.


Great!! I live in a 120 year old house that was built by “developers.” You probably also live in a house built by a “developer.” It’s an odd belief that it’s somehow wrong for businesses to build houses …. do you have some kind of idealized fantasy that everyone should be a homesteader and buy their own land and build their own house on it?


120 years ago your house was built by a farmer or businessman who earned it. The original owner would laugh at you.


No it wasn’t. What a weird anachronistic view. It was built by a developer that built blocks of rowhouses.

So buying a house from a developer is wrong now because you didn’t “earn it”? 🤡


There are 120 year old row houses in Arlington?
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Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately, it is not completely dead yet. Arlington is going to appeal the ruling.


Maybe, but how long can they keep paying $700/hour for outside representation?

How many losing battles can they fight on the taxpayer’s dime before someone says, ENOUGH?

Maybe they can drag it along until the next election cycle.


This news comes as attorney fees from a more expansive lawsuit against EHO have mushroomed in recent months. The county paid the law firm Gentry Locke $173,879 between March 30 and April 30, for a total of nearly $300,000 in spending since January, invoices show.

https://www.arlnow.com/2024/06/04/one-missing-middle-lawsuit-dismissed-but-the-countys-legal-fees-are-still-mounting/

That was in JUNE.


The county has money for this but we can’t afford to pay enough to hire sufficient special ed teachers.
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Anonymous wrote:Nimbys are the worst. Seriously. You’re ruining this country.


How is this ruining the country? Because people need to live in areas that comport with their affordability instead of the government trying to get everyone a prize at the expense of current homeowners? No one has a right to live in Arlington. It’s a very nice and expensive place.

I would love a house in Newport Beach. I can’t afford a $8M house so I don’t live there.


because EVERYTHING that is a common good gets opposed by NIMBYs. Preschools, high schools, sidewalks, solar powed, waste treatment plants …


None of this is true for Arlington. There were arguments about the high school, but not because people didn’t want it in their backyard but because they wanted a school that was equivalent to the existing high schools like W-L, Yorktown and Wakefield and the County, per usual, wouldn’t do that. They forced all these other 1/2 a$$ options on people. I’d love to hear about the preschool and solar power that Arlington NIMBYs scrapped. I’ve lived here over twenty years.


lol pathetic defense of blocking the HS. I bet you $10000 the same people who blocked the HS are now whining about not having enough school capacity for growth.


Pathetic defense? You must be a delusional YIMBY renter without kids. Because you would care if your kid was zoned for a high school with a small turf field on the roof and no swimming pool or theater while kids at the other high schools have all of those things. I have no dog in this fight. I am a parent of high school student but I wouldn’t send them to APS. The County and their schools suck.


Catch up. The NIMBYs blocked the a new APS HS (and now whine that the schools are too crowded for more housing.)


It’s almost like you are purposely obtuse. I just explained why it was blocked. It’s YIMBY’s like you who can’t make a coherent argument that got us into this mess.


They are MAGAs whether they realelize it or not.


So true when you consider that the @YIMBY development lobby hires MAGA operatives who also work for Trump.


Please, tell us ALL about your progressive bona fides.


“Smart Growth” operatives who oppose affordable housing when working for Trump but at the same time push dense development that they claim, naturally, will bring “affordable” housing. Whatever cynical nonsense sells the client’s dog food.



That's why it's MAGA. It's the bullying, lies, magical thinking, shamelessness, authoritarianism, othering, and closed thinking that is so distasteful. Substanceless bad policy built on groupthink.
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Anonymous wrote:Nimbys are the worst. Seriously. You’re ruining this country.


How is this ruining the country? Because people need to live in areas that comport with their affordability instead of the government trying to get everyone a prize at the expense of current homeowners? No one has a right to live in Arlington. It’s a very nice and expensive place.

I would love a house in Newport Beach. I can’t afford a $8M house so I don’t live there.


because EVERYTHING that is a common good gets opposed by NIMBYs. Preschools, high schools, sidewalks, solar powed, waste treatment plants …


I agree to some extent. All for solar, better infrastructure, etc but eliminating SFH zoning is not needed. There is plenty of room to build up - apts, condos, etc. people here just look down on those types of homes. Everywhere Else in the world, a condo is a fine place to live. Wealthier people live in the larger suburban homes, most live in condos/apts. le


But the choices should not be limited to 1000 sqft condo or 4000 sqft SFH. It would be nice to have more housing in the middle.


So maybe you need to do what the rest of us did and buy a small 1.5 bath colonial fixer-upper or a small 2 bed ranch with an original kitchen and bath? Only the new construction is 4000 sqft for a SFH. And consider existing duplexes and townhomes in South Arlington, also like we did. Put in some sweat equity and make a profit.

But if MM stands, all those existing homes will be torn down to make way for new construction that is unaffordable to anyone in the middle, regardless of sqft. Whether it’s a 4000 sqft SFH or a six-plex, it’s not going to make a real dent in affordability or the regional housing crisis with a cap of 50 per year. It’s just enough to piss off current residents when parking and tree canopy and storm water and school crowding aren’t addressed simultaneously. We need many, many more high rises in the R-B corridor and “National Landing” and there’s lots of office space that is sitting empty that could make an actual dent in housing and affordability and transit access without upsetting the entire SFH resident owner population. Unless, of course, you’re not actually interested in solving these issues.


Thanks for the suggestions but I already have a house in Arlington. But I also am aware that housing in the middle is limited. Any lot suitable for a new build is already bought by a developer, and I’d rather see a duplex be constructed than a hideous McMansion.


I think if they’d just done duplexes there wouldn’t have even been a lawsuit. But the six-plexes approved for 5000 sqft lots was pure stupidity. That means no dedicated space for parking and who wants a dumpster next door when you didn’t buy in an area that ever had dumpsters before or where you suddenly have to fight for street parking? Of course it ended this way. Better to refocus energy on changing rules for lot coverage and make storm water regulations/non-permeable coverage limits so stringent and expensive that it’s not worth it for developers to prevent this McMansion spread and tree destruction.


This is the most sensible answer I’ve seen on here.
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Anonymous wrote:Nimbys are the worst. Seriously. You’re ruining this country.


How is this ruining the country? Because people need to live in areas that comport with their affordability instead of the government trying to get everyone a prize at the expense of current homeowners? No one has a right to live in Arlington. It’s a very nice and expensive place.

I would love a house in Newport Beach. I can’t afford a $8M house so I don’t live there.


because EVERYTHING that is a common good gets opposed by NIMBYs. Preschools, high schools, sidewalks, solar powed, waste treatment plants …


None of this is true for Arlington. There were arguments about the high school, but not because people didn’t want it in their backyard but because they wanted a school that was equivalent to the existing high schools like W-L, Yorktown and Wakefield and the County, per usual, wouldn’t do that. They forced all these other 1/2 a$$ options on people. I’d love to hear about the preschool and solar power that Arlington NIMBYs scrapped. I’ve lived here over twenty years.


lol pathetic defense of blocking the HS. I bet you $10000 the same people who blocked the HS are now whining about not having enough school capacity for growth.


Pathetic defense? You must be a delusional YIMBY renter without kids. Because you would care if your kid was zoned for a high school with a small turf field on the roof and no swimming pool or theater while kids at the other high schools have all of those things. I have no dog in this fight. I am a parent of high school student but I wouldn’t send them to APS. The County and their schools suck.


Catch up. The NIMBYs blocked the a new APS HS (and now whine that the schools are too crowded for more housing.)


It’s almost like you are purposely obtuse. I just explained why it was blocked. It’s YIMBY’s like you who can’t make a coherent argument that got us into this mess.


They are MAGAs whether they realelize it or not.


So true when you consider that the @YIMBY development lobby hires MAGA operatives who also work for Trump.


Please, tell us ALL about your progressive bona fides.


“Smart Growth” operatives who oppose affordable housing when working for Trump but at the same time push dense development that they claim, naturally, will bring “affordable” housing. Whatever cynical nonsense sells the client’s dog food.



This is all in your imagination.
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Anonymous wrote:Nimbys are the worst. Seriously. You’re ruining this country.


How is this ruining the country? Because people need to live in areas that comport with their affordability instead of the government trying to get everyone a prize at the expense of current homeowners? No one has a right to live in Arlington. It’s a very nice and expensive place.

I would love a house in Newport Beach. I can’t afford a $8M house so I don’t live there.


because EVERYTHING that is a common good gets opposed by NIMBYs. Preschools, high schools, sidewalks, solar powed, waste treatment plants …


The best thing for the common hood would be for people to understand that if you want something nice in this country you have to sacrifice and work your tail off. In an era of student loan forgiveness, free housing for illegal immigrants, and countless other government giveaways it’s gotten totally out of control.


How does someone sacrifice and “work their tail off” for sidewalks and wind farms? That’s total disingenuous NIMBY bullsh*t. You don’t believe people need to work for themselves - if you did, you’d never try to legally block what they do with *their own property.* What you want is to control what happens to property and public spaces that you *never worked for*. So stfu about “hard work.”


There is a specific, yet to be named type of psychological rage that exists amongst nonprofit workers and humanities degree holders when they reach adulthood and realize they cannot have the same types of things that their peers who went into business, law, STEM, etc. It is sad to
to watch.


That’s a weird projection, considering that you’re mad you couldn’t buy up all your neighbors property.


It’s being bought up by developers who majored in business.


Great!! I live in a 120 year old house that was built by “developers.” You probably also live in a house built by a “developer.” It’s an odd belief that it’s somehow wrong for businesses to build houses …. do you have some kind of idealized fantasy that everyone should be a homesteader and buy their own land and build their own house on it?


120 years ago your house was built by a farmer or businessman who earned it. The original owner would laugh at you.


No it wasn’t. What a weird anachronistic view. It was built by a developer that built blocks of rowhouses.

So buying a house from a developer is wrong now because you didn’t “earn it”? 🤡


There are 120 year old row houses in Arlington?


I’m in DC now. BTW I just walked around Arlington a bit, and the detached SFH neighborhoods are as tatty and ugly as I remembered. The denser townhouse blocks are much nicer. All this drama over neighborhoods full of fugly houses with bad landscaping. Zero charm.
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Anonymous wrote:Nimbys are the worst. Seriously. You’re ruining this country.


How is this ruining the country? Because people need to live in areas that comport with their affordability instead of the government trying to get everyone a prize at the expense of current homeowners? No one has a right to live in Arlington. It’s a very nice and expensive place.

I would love a house in Newport Beach. I can’t afford a $8M house so I don’t live there.


because EVERYTHING that is a common good gets opposed by NIMBYs. Preschools, high schools, sidewalks, solar powed, waste treatment plants …


The best thing for the common hood would be for people to understand that if you want something nice in this country you have to sacrifice and work your tail off. In an era of student loan forgiveness, free housing for illegal immigrants, and countless other government giveaways it’s gotten totally out of control.


That must be why they sell for 2 million dollars without ever even going on the market.



How does someone sacrifice and “work their tail off” for sidewalks and wind farms? That’s total disingenuous NIMBY bullsh*t. You don’t believe people need to work for themselves - if you did, you’d never try to legally block what they do with *their own property.* What you want is to control what happens to property and public spaces that you *never worked for*. So stfu about “hard work.”


There is a specific, yet to be named type of psychological rage that exists amongst nonprofit workers and humanities degree holders when they reach adulthood and realize they cannot have the same types of things that their peers who went into business, law, STEM, etc. It is sad to
to watch.


That’s a weird projection, considering that you’re mad you couldn’t buy up all your neighbors property.


It’s being bought up by developers who majored in business.


Great!! I live in a 120 year old house that was built by “developers.” You probably also live in a house built by a “developer.” It’s an odd belief that it’s somehow wrong for businesses to build houses …. do you have some kind of idealized fantasy that everyone should be a homesteader and buy their own land and build their own house on it?


120 years ago your house was built by a farmer or businessman who earned it. The original owner would laugh at you.


No it wasn’t. What a weird anachronistic view. It was built by a developer that built blocks of rowhouses.

So buying a house from a developer is wrong now because you didn’t “earn it”? 🤡


There are 120 year old row houses in Arlington?


I’m in DC now. BTW I just walked around Arlington a bit, and the detached SFH neighborhoods are as tatty and ugly as I remembered. The denser townhouse blocks are much nicer. All this drama over neighborhoods full of fugly houses with bad landscaping. Zero charm.
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Anonymous wrote:Nimbys are the worst. Seriously. You’re ruining this country.


How is this ruining the country? Because people need to live in areas that comport with their affordability instead of the government trying to get everyone a prize at the expense of current homeowners? No one has a right to live in Arlington. It’s a very nice and expensive place.

I would love a house in Newport Beach. I can’t afford a $8M house so I don’t live there.


because EVERYTHING that is a common good gets opposed by NIMBYs. Preschools, high schools, sidewalks, solar powed, waste treatment plants …


The best thing for the common hood would be for people to understand that if you want something nice in this country you have to sacrifice and work your tail off. In an era of student loan forgiveness, free housing for illegal immigrants, and countless other government giveaways it’s gotten totally out of control.


How does someone sacrifice and “work their tail off” for sidewalks and wind farms? That’s total disingenuous NIMBY bullsh*t. You don’t believe people need to work for themselves - if you did, you’d never try to legally block what they do with *their own property.* What you want is to control what happens to property and public spaces that you *never worked for*. So stfu about “hard work.”


There is a specific, yet to be named type of psychological rage that exists amongst nonprofit workers and humanities degree holders when they reach adulthood and realize they cannot have the same types of things that their peers who went into business, law, STEM, etc. It is sad to
to watch.


That’s a weird projection, considering that you’re mad you couldn’t buy up all your neighbors property.


It’s being bought up by developers who majored in business.


Great!! I live in a 120 year old house that was built by “developers.” You probably also live in a house built by a “developer.” It’s an odd belief that it’s somehow wrong for businesses to build houses …. do you have some kind of idealized fantasy that everyone should be a homesteader and buy their own land and build their own house on it?


120 years ago your house was built by a farmer or businessman who earned it. The original owner would laugh at you.


No it wasn’t. What a weird anachronistic view. It was built by a developer that built blocks of rowhouses.

So buying a house from a developer is wrong now because you didn’t “earn it”? 🤡


There are 120 year old row houses in Arlington?


I’m in DC now. BTW I just walked around Arlington a bit, and the detached SFH neighborhoods are as tatty and ugly as I remembered. The denser townhouse blocks are much nicer. All this drama over neighborhoods full of fugly houses with bad landscaping. Zero charm.


So then they should be more affordable to families than the upscale townhouses tricked out with quartzite falling edge kitchens.
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Anonymous wrote:Nimbys are the worst. Seriously. You’re ruining this country.


How is this ruining the country? Because people need to live in areas that comport with their affordability instead of the government trying to get everyone a prize at the expense of current homeowners? No one has a right to live in Arlington. It’s a very nice and expensive place.

I would love a house in Newport Beach. I can’t afford a $8M house so I don’t live there.


because EVERYTHING that is a common good gets opposed by NIMBYs. Preschools, high schools, sidewalks, solar powed, waste treatment plants …


The best thing for the common hood would be for people to understand that if you want something nice in this country you have to sacrifice and work your tail off. In an era of student loan forgiveness, free housing for illegal immigrants, and countless other government giveaways it’s gotten totally out of control.


How does someone sacrifice and “work their tail off” for sidewalks and wind farms? That’s total disingenuous NIMBY bullsh*t. You don’t believe people need to work for themselves - if you did, you’d never try to legally block what they do with *their own property.* What you want is to control what happens to property and public spaces that you *never worked for*. So stfu about “hard work.”


There is a specific, yet to be named type of psychological rage that exists amongst nonprofit workers and humanities degree holders when they reach adulthood and realize they cannot have the same types of things that their peers who went into business, law, STEM, etc. It is sad to
to watch.


That’s a weird projection, considering that you’re mad you couldn’t buy up all your neighbors property.


It’s being bought up by developers who majored in business.


Great!! I live in a 120 year old house that was built by “developers.” You probably also live in a house built by a “developer.” It’s an odd belief that it’s somehow wrong for businesses to build houses …. do you have some kind of idealized fantasy that everyone should be a homesteader and buy their own land and build their own house on it?


120 years ago your house was built by a farmer or businessman who earned it. The original owner would laugh at you.


No it wasn’t. What a weird anachronistic view. It was built by a developer that built blocks of rowhouses.

So buying a house from a developer is wrong now because you didn’t “earn it”? 🤡


There are 120 year old row houses in Arlington?


I’m in DC now. BTW I just walked around Arlington a bit, and the detached SFH neighborhoods are as tatty and ugly as I remembered. The denser townhouse blocks are much nicer. All this drama over neighborhoods full of fugly houses with bad landscaping. Zero charm.


So then they should be more affordable to families than the upscale townhouses tricked out with quartzite falling edge kitchens.


Sometimes affordable is actually more aesthetically pleasing.
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Anonymous wrote:Nimbys are the worst. Seriously. You’re ruining this country.


How is this ruining the country? Because people need to live in areas that comport with their affordability instead of the government trying to get everyone a prize at the expense of current homeowners? No one has a right to live in Arlington. It’s a very nice and expensive place.

I would love a house in Newport Beach. I can’t afford a $8M house so I don’t live there.


because EVERYTHING that is a common good gets opposed by NIMBYs. Preschools, high schools, sidewalks, solar powed, waste treatment plants …


The best thing for the common hood would be for people to understand that if you want something nice in this country you have to sacrifice and work your tail off. In an era of student loan forgiveness, free housing for illegal immigrants, and countless other government giveaways it’s gotten totally out of control.


How does someone sacrifice and “work their tail off” for sidewalks and wind farms? That’s total disingenuous NIMBY bullsh*t. You don’t believe people need to work for themselves - if you did, you’d never try to legally block what they do with *their own property.* What you want is to control what happens to property and public spaces that you *never worked for*. So stfu about “hard work.”


There is a specific, yet to be named type of psychological rage that exists amongst nonprofit workers and humanities degree holders when they reach adulthood and realize they cannot have the same types of things that their peers who went into business, law, STEM, etc. It is sad to
to watch.


That’s a weird projection, considering that you’re mad you couldn’t buy up all your neighbors property.


It’s being bought up by developers who majored in business.


Great!! I live in a 120 year old house that was built by “developers.” You probably also live in a house built by a “developer.” It’s an odd belief that it’s somehow wrong for businesses to build houses …. do you have some kind of idealized fantasy that everyone should be a homesteader and buy their own land and build their own house on it?


120 years ago your house was built by a farmer or businessman who earned it. The original owner would laugh at you.


No it wasn’t. What a weird anachronistic view. It was built by a developer that built blocks of rowhouses.

So buying a house from a developer is wrong now because you didn’t “earn it”? 🤡


There are 120 year old row houses in Arlington?


I’m in DC now. BTW I just walked around Arlington a bit, and the detached SFH neighborhoods are as tatty and ugly as I remembered. The denser townhouse blocks are much nicer. All this drama over neighborhoods full of fugly houses with bad landscaping. Zero charm.


So then they should be more affordable to families than the upscale townhouses tricked out with quartzite falling edge kitchens.


Sometimes affordable is actually more aesthetically pleasing.


Quartzite falling edge countertops are not aesthetically pleasing and upscale townhouses with those types of tacky upcharge add ons are not affordable.
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Anonymous wrote:Nimbys are the worst. Seriously. You’re ruining this country.


How is this ruining the country? Because people need to live in areas that comport with their affordability instead of the government trying to get everyone a prize at the expense of current homeowners? No one has a right to live in Arlington. It’s a very nice and expensive place.

I would love a house in Newport Beach. I can’t afford a $8M house so I don’t live there.


because EVERYTHING that is a common good gets opposed by NIMBYs. Preschools, high schools, sidewalks, solar powed, waste treatment plants …


The best thing for the common hood would be for people to understand that if you want something nice in this country you have to sacrifice and work your tail off. In an era of student loan forgiveness, free housing for illegal immigrants, and countless other government giveaways it’s gotten totally out of control.


How does someone sacrifice and “work their tail off” for sidewalks and wind farms? That’s total disingenuous NIMBY bullsh*t. You don’t believe people need to work for themselves - if you did, you’d never try to legally block what they do with *their own property.* What you want is to control what happens to property and public spaces that you *never worked for*. So stfu about “hard work.”


There is a specific, yet to be named type of psychological rage that exists amongst nonprofit workers and humanities degree holders when they reach adulthood and realize they cannot have the same types of things that their peers who went into business, law, STEM, etc. It is sad to
to watch.


That’s a weird projection, considering that you’re mad you couldn’t buy up all your neighbors property.


It’s being bought up by developers who majored in business.


Great!! I live in a 120 year old house that was built by “developers.” You probably also live in a house built by a “developer.” It’s an odd belief that it’s somehow wrong for businesses to build houses …. do you have some kind of idealized fantasy that everyone should be a homesteader and buy their own land and build their own house on it?


120 years ago your house was built by a farmer or businessman who earned it. The original owner would laugh at you.


No it wasn’t. What a weird anachronistic view. It was built by a developer that built blocks of rowhouses.

So buying a house from a developer is wrong now because you didn’t “earn it”? 🤡


There are 120 year old row houses in Arlington?


I’m in DC now. BTW I just walked around Arlington a bit, and the detached SFH neighborhoods are as tatty and ugly as I remembered. The denser townhouse blocks are much nicer. All this drama over neighborhoods full of fugly houses with bad landscaping. Zero charm.


So you’re a gentrifier then. Well, at least that’s clear now. YIMBY white gentrifier can’t wait until the “tatty” homes are torn down and lifelong Arlingtonians are pushed out.
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